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Im just curious, Would i be denied a security clearence for IS because of a speeding ticket, On the intial security clearence i told them i have not had a ticket because it had got reduced so i said no because i didnt think that it counted as i pretty much won the appeal. But i was thinking about it and i am now worried kind of. I am 18 with a clean record and just this 1 ticket, Will this screw me over and prevent me from getting Access?
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I kinda doubt it...I was a CTR and had about 6 speeding tickets before I was given my clearence.
If you had of told them, I wouldnt be worried at all, but I'm thinking it wont be a big deal. |
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Your going to have to clarify what you mean. Your waffling around the subject. What do you mean by "I pretty much won". Are you saying that you got a speeding ticket and plea bargined it down to a defective vechicle? Were you going 145 in a 55mph area? or were you going 60 in a 55mph area. There is a big difference in both of these speeds. One show you barely broke the rules, the other is a total disreguard of everybody safety. We need more info... |
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103 in a 65, but i got it reduced from a 310 to 100 dollars.
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yea, now that you mention it, on my 17 birthday i was spearfishing with my brother and two of his friends, and we got pulled over by marine patrol cuz are dive flag broke and it wasnt visible. we got fined 50 dollars, but since i was the only one with an ID on them, it was put under my name. when i enlisted in MEPs i didnt even remember this, it didnt seem too important because it wasnt my boat, and i was the youngest one on, by at least 4 years. think this will come back to haunt me for the security clearence?
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Lead Moderator, Veterans Issues Forums davem-milcom @cinci.rr.com Founding Member DVG  |
Probably not. First it was probably a civil offense. You where under 18. No court date. And if it comes up in an interview, be honest. I forgot about it is often a good answer for something like this.
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The important thing about obtaining a clearance, particularly the TS/SCI needed to work as an IS, is to BE HONEST AND UP FRONT FROM THE BEGINNING.
Working with classified information is about trust..waffling or ignoring and then saying, "Oh, I forgot..." is not the best way to build the trust (through interviews, EPSQ, etc.) necessary for the government to give someone a clearance. One of the biggest issues for clearances is investigators digging up stuff that was not mentioned in the first place. They will check and cross-check information...be it speeding tix, citations, smoking dope, etc. IS1(SCW) |
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so i am screwed because i said no at the screening at meps? or will they ask me things again..
also im unaware if the charge was changed. I didnt see a judge just someone in a room ( not too sure what he was ) and after talking he dropped it down to $100 .. wich is pretty big drop coming from $307 |
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Not sure what state this was in, but in many, speeding this much in excess of the posted speed limit merits a charge of Reckless Driving. It sounds to me like that charge was simply changed to "speeding", hence the lower fine. $103 is a bit excessive for a "minor" charge. Again, though, it depends on where you were. In any case, I'd be telling someone about it ASAP.
If a person truly "forgets" something - which people do - then they should TELL SOMEONE as soon as they "remember." Don't wait for them to find out that information is missing/incorrect and call you on it. |
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I have just gone though this same thing with my son, but he was going a little faster. The guy you talked to was the district attorney. He is the one who says if you get a break or not. He is also the one who has to prove his case in court. If he thinks his case is shaky then he will offer a plea bargin. If he thinks your a good kid (ie joining the Navy), he will cut you a break also. Bottomline, you need to find out what you plead guilty to. Go to the records department of the court and request a copy of your case. It may cost you $5 bucks but you need to know. The main think you need to remember is on the security clearance form is say if you have any traffic charges over $150.00, you don't. But... You still need to let people know what you plead guilty to. Get off your butt and go to the court house today! You need this information. |
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DanSpitz - you are right, but when i got the ticket the cop gave me a civil offens ( normal ticket ) had he given me a criminal offense it would have been reckless driving.
93corvette - yeah, the only reason he even gave me a break on it is joining the navy. because the cop had me on radar. and my dad is a cop so he talked to the da and after 5 minutes of convincing it was dropped. thanks for the info though on going and getting the record, I thought it stayed as speeding but just showed as being reduced. thanks for the input thoug i deffinatly apreciate it cleared alot up.. also, this is completely irelevant but how do i change my forum name, I went into the personal settings thing but did not see anywere to go for it. |
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When I was enlisting I had numerous criminal and civil offenses, bad credit, and had traveled to numerous foreign countries, including China, Vietnam, and Russia, each numerous times. I had done all of these things within the last 7 years. I disclosed every single one of them on my SF86 form, the one you fill out to apply for a security clearance. However there was one charge that was dropped by a judge when I appeared in court, the charge was for disorderely conduct. I was also charged and found guilty of minor in consumption of alcohol. About 8 months after I had gone to boot camp an investigator came to see me while I was in C School. She wanted to know why I never mentioned the disorderely conduct charge on my SF86. I told her that since the charge had been dropped and that they had access to my court documents which would have shown them everything about the case I didn't think it mattered, especially if the form asked for convictions only. She said ok. Then she asked me about an arrest that I failed to disclose that took place in Arizona in 2003. I wasn't htere in 2003 and told her to further investigate it, look up the picture of the mugshot and check the fingerprints they had on file for the arrest. 4 months later I received word that my clearance was granted.
The point I am trying to make is that if you say you have a squeeky clean record on paper and they find something, it will look very bad. If you let them know everything right off the bat and forget one of the many times you have been in trouble, they will let you clarify it and disclose it. |
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