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I might be asking this question to the wrong group of people, but I'm hoping some of you have experience or knowledge about my question. If not, I can just go back to my recruiter and hope he can walk me through it. I'm about to sign my option 40, and I was always under the assumption that Rangers along with other non-navy men could apply and go through BUD/s and be a SEAL if passed. Lately I've done a lot of research on it and found this to not be the case and I am quite confused about what the options are.
From what I can tell, Rangers can attend BUD/s but after they go back to being Rangers. If they want to be a SEAL they must wait for their contract to be up and then have a Interservice Transfer, then sign up for the Navy with a BUD/s contract. Assuming I complete Ranger School I don't think I will want to just leave the Army and hope I pass BUD/s. Does anyone know if you can attend BUD/s while being a Ranger, completely pass, then leave the Army after the contract is up and join the Navy continuing your SEAL training since you have already passed BUD/s? |
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Quiet Professional |
numbers you have yet to accomplish anything in the miltiary and yet you are asking how you can go to BUDS and become a seal after you make it into the Rgr Regt. It would be best if you set one goal and actually accomplish that goal before you start trying to figure out what you will do next. I recommend that complete 11B, Airborne, RIP, make it in Bn and then pass ranger school before you ask anything else. Your question is just beyond comprehension and can not be taken seriously when you still have done NOTHING.
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I understand that. However, the answer to my question will effect my decision to forego my option 40 and go into the navy instead or not. I would prefer to have a plan to work towards than just hope everything works out in the end.
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Quiet Professional BTDT  |
Interjecting uninvited here. Just a couple of points -
1) Rangers do not attend BUD/S or the SEAL Qualification Course, nor do Special Forces Personnel or any other Army, Marine Corps or Air Force personnel. There have been FMS (Foreign Military Students) attend BUD/S, but not SQC, and the first Coast Guardsmen are soon to graduate BUD/S and go on to SQC. 2) The Airborne Course, The Ranger Course and portions of SFQC, MFF, JOTC, SOCDC are open to non-Army US Military personnel and have been for years, as well as to Foreign Military Students, but BUD/S and SQC are for the Navy and their chosen FMSs and select USCG only Recommend you choose a branch of service which interests you (not as a hobby), pick a career path that plays on your talents and strengths, and focus your attention on excelling in that path. There is no appetizer sampler platter to choose from - this is not TGI Fridays. Our country need serious, dedicated SOF personnel who won't drop their re-up papers when a SRB Bonus is not offered, or when it becomes a drag. Be a Ranger, or a SEAL, or a RECON Marine, or a PJ, or an SF trooper...and do it well...for the long haul. Sweet dreams  |
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Quiet Professional BTDT  |
 Another unasked, but offered in all seriousness.Others have offered very valid suggestions and comments, however, as my predecessor has commented, nar the twain shall meet. Or words to that effect. Take stock in yourself, then set a goal and go forward with that goal in the forefront. If being a SEAL interests you seriously, work towards that lifestyle. There are no second best in these endeavors. If you want to be a Ranger,work toward that, and if you want to be SF later on down the road work toward that route, keeping in mind that if you wanted to be a SF Trooper, you may still be able to make that grade also. Allow me to offer the same track as I always suggest to those who are serious in their desire to become a SF Operator. Talk with your Recruiter, tell him what you want to do., then enlist for the following options. Basic Training, Airborne Training, Ranger Training, SFQT. If you make it through Ranger School, all in one piece and pass the SFQ, the SF training command will direct your education from there. Basic will/should be geared towards Ranger and SF Training. If this and the preceding suggestions hasn't helped to guide you in the right path I don't know what else to say, but Check out the Air Force or Coast Guard, I understand they are still looking for a few good men......Ringo  |
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This sounds like my Son, when he was 8.
"When I'm an Astronaut, will they let me take time off to be a Fireman?" |
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That's true, but I can tell you from direct personal experience that we always knew when the "good stuff" (classes, briefings, whatever) was coming because the instructors would tell the foreign students to not report until 11:00, or something like that. Then when we would get to the classroom or auditorium there would be signs posted saying "US only" with someone checking ID's at the door. Funny thing is, they must not have made much of an impression on me - I don't remember a damned one of them specifically.  |
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Feet - Fourth - Head |
ranger1stbat answered your question very well. Period, end of story. |
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If my poor memory is correct, recently several Coastie officers recently completed BUD/S. I gather it is an experiment...
BTW- don't SF still have swimmers/divers? |
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Quiet Professional BTDT |
Affirmative re the USCG personnel graduating BUD/S and going on to SQC, and yes, TOE for each Special Forces Co. includes 4 ruck ODAs, 1 MFF ODA and 1 SCUBA ODA |
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Try graduating OSUT first. SCOUTS OUT!!! TWO BAGS FULL!!! |
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Quiet Professional BTDT |
FYI, while Coasties can indeed attend BUDS. If they are successful and graduate they are separated from the Cost Guard and accessed into the Navy as SEALS. They are no longer Coasties. They remain in the Navy as long as they are on a SEAL Team.
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Gentlemen, I have been out of pocket working with the State's Silver Haired Legislation, for a few days, and have not been on here, but for relevant stuff. However, I would like to throw something out there, for your observation. Back in 70-73 when I was with the Tenth on Devens, the SEALS put out a call to DA to the SF Command, for any Medics interested in attending BUDS and becoming SEALS. I lost both my medics, the company (B) lost six; while overall, Group lost ten (10). A few years back I "found" my former senior medic and chatted with him until he had to move on again. He told me that all but four made the grade. The other three went back to SF, while he passed everything but depth diving, because of ears and vertigo. He was given an option of returning to SF or becoming a "Boat Doctor", which is what he selected, and retired as a Navy LTC (04). The kicker here is his present activities since retiring, which fits into another fried of mine who was LT (03) in the SEALS, sometime during the 80's. His team was selected for some black work, and "disappeared". Soon they are removed from the rolls of the Navy, and continued to handle "jobs" for the Company. WE visit when the Marilyn and I visit my brothers in Florida. Wayne is one hell of a guy, he is still connected more then he would let on, but did show me some real scary s*** the last time. His old team mates, all live in Florida and every time something weird happens, he gets an "OK LT, what's the call?" message from them. He is a one shot, one kill sort of guy, and his one shot, BTW are head shots. That is how good he is. If the S*** ever hits the fan, I'm headed for his house, he has enough stuff to handle anything that will hit the streets..............Ringo |
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