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This guy is 19 years old and claimed to be a special forces medic who got out due to a back injury. Unfortunately he has taken down all his information about being special forces (from myspace
 " but still claims that he hurt his back in army medic training. According nremt.org he hasn't been certified in wisconsin, texas, or the army. In one picture he is a specialist donning a "Red Arrow" Wisconsin National Guard patch(in front of walmart of all places...)He also has some tabs which I can't make out distinctively. He has a black beret with god knows what unit crest, although, his flash appears to be 3rd SF group according to google, but I could be wrong.The next picture he is an E-5 donning a Special Forces patch with what appears to be an airborne tab and a longer Special Forces tab.   |
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The patch he is wearing in the top picture is definitely part of the 32 BCT (WI National Gurad) which is currently deployed in South East Asia. This unit has their home in Wisconsin.
I had the privilege of working with some of the Soldiers with this unit and remember the patch. |
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Good to know
I still find it hard to see a 19 year old e-5 who's completed all the training and waiting to become SF. Maybe it's possible, although, I don't know much of anything about the process beyond the general knowledge of SFAS -> Q-course -> SF. Even if he went active his specialist rank would have dropped 2. There's only a couple of NG SF groups but I'm not sure how they recruit people from the NG. I guess I'm just not seeing it. Eesh, I don't know what site I used for the info on the flash but i guess it might be a SF patch for people in support of SF. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Scuba5783, |
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Highly Experienced Member |
I'm not an expert in these matters but I thought as part of the Special Forces Medic program your promoted to SGT E5 at some point before you graduate?
Also is National Registration mandatory? I never asked CMTaMedic but my presumption was that was optional because one of my Medics in the 1980's did not have the EMT certification. The Spec4 to SGT bit. He could enter the NG as a PFC at 17 and be a Spec4 after a deployment. Special Forces had recruiting posters all over Ft. Campbell this past August during the Week of Eagles. IMO, they will recruit any Infantry guy thats Active at the time. As for him taking stuff down off his myspace page. I've had some of the Infantry posters here remove stuff they earned from their profiles because they were tired of being challenged or asked. Just my two cents. I'm not a poser expert nor am I a Special Forces expert but some of the poser stuff does have a explanation soemtimes. Also the last item, if he was posing in that last picture he would not have bothered with the other patch above the SF patch more then likely. Looks like that is a patch identifying him as a trainee (a guess) and he does appear to be in a clinic or hospital setting with that monitor on the wall, tile floor and the stupid stripe painting. Plus his head is shaved. One other thing I will mention about the combat patches. I observed a lot of the younger Soldiers (I mean really young) had the Speical Forces Patch as a combat patch because they supported a Special Forces unit on deployment. I noticed a few at Ft. Campbell as well. So these days you have to be careful with this stuff. Again, I am not a SF expert. A buddy of mine went into the SF Medic program when I ETS'd in 1987, last time I talked to him was about 2 years ago. Also former member of WIARNG before the Arrow patch was so widespread. Wisconsin despite being a liberal State has a very strong Military tradition. Going back in the Military history here for the Army. A lot of the Soldiers that were stuck in the Phillipines during WWII were from Wisconsin and other Midwestern states. If you get caught posing there I think the extra legal consequences are far more severe. Not saying it can't happen though. |
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Ha! I see the green flag. Your branched MP aren't you? 32nd BCT current mission while important.....I would not want to do. |
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"Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere" |
Yes indeed! |
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It looks like the only place he ever trained was McDonalds. Is he pregnant? Maybe that is why he got out, first male pregnant soldier. I would be ashamed of even claiming to be a soldier with a belly like that!!
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I'm not an expert either but my Army recruiter told me i have to be 20 years old by the time i graduate basic to be an SF recruit. Going into basic i will be a private first class and by the time i complete phase VI ill be at least E-5.
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Highly Experienced Member |
Ha-ha-ha-ha, well only you once. Really more the CIB, that thing is like a magnet for people. Kind of happy I don't have one now.  |
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AKA MAOakley |
The second picture he is stading with Dane Cook in what I would assume would be a green room or other backstage area.
The green tag on below his US Army Tape is a stick -on backstage pass. Ihave yet to see this, but would a Medic wear a brassard that says MEDIC similar to the MP Brassard like he is? Also is it just me or is he wearing a CMB way to left....I know that this is authorized if other badges are worn, but I can't tell if there is one underneath Dane's hand or if that is a shadow. |
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Quiet Professional BTDT  |
Yeah, it looks waaaaay off center. FWIW, if he "hurt his back in medic training" then he's probably not tabbed. Also, if he completed 18D he'd be a Nationally Registered Paramedic. |
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Quiet Professional BTDT  |
Wow, no ****?? I didn't know that; when'd they start that. Graduated SF Med Course June '78. |
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Quiet Professional BTDT |
Can't say when exactly (I was an 18E) but I know they've been doing it for 5-10 years at least. About 8 years ago an 18D buddy of mine at work went through a several months long PARAMEDIC certification course that grandfathered in the old timers. |
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Could be 20th group flash in the first picture. Cant really tell cause the light washes the color out, but it does seem more white then red. I may be wrong but I thought there was a company of 20th group based out of chicago. It is kinda wierd that he is wearing the WI NG patch with a non standard beret though. NG units were allowing really young kids into the 18x program as of 18 months ago. I dont know about right now, but I knew a kid that was just out of highschool and headed to basic as an 18x.
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Quiet Professional BTDT |
Just me but I wonder if the advent of velcro patches isn't making it easier for these types to "mix and match" hero badges they haven't earned? Back in the day, you'd have to pay $$ to have all this stuff permanently sewn onto a BDU. That was kind of a commitment into your BS cover story. Velcro lets you change with a whim.
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Quiet Professional BTDT  |
LOL
I'm glad I didn't have to keep up with all these uniform changes. I remember Slicks, ERDLs, RDFs, BDUs, OD Tropicals, Tigerstripes and chocolate-chip desert...some transitional, some overlapping, some at unit descretion, some for advisor/MTT duty, some for deployment - most had no insignia at all - I remember wearing layers of sweaters under over-size RDFs in cold weather because the only field jackets available were M65 OD. But all that was over a long period of years, nothing like all the official uniform changes over the past 10-12 years...I am in the wrong business, because these uniform suppliers are making bank on our tax dollars everytime some service chief get a wild hair.  These uniform changes aren't winning any wars...just contracts...we need to get back to the basics of UW...besides, Velcro pockets just make alot of noise in the dark. |
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Hey, I hear ya on the Uniform Changes. Been in almost 6 and half years now myself.. I went from BDU/DCU/ACU, and they "say" it maybe changing again soon... Anyways the real reason I wrote back on this thing.. is I have a BNCOC date set up at Fort Hood, when I get back. I am a Combat Engineer by MOS, and usually they do BNCOC up there at Leonard Wood, however I got an Email on AKO saying that they are MTT to Fort Hood? I noticed SINEPARIDONSTER you said you did some MTT Duty?? What does MTT stand for. Military Transition Team?? Just asking??
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MTT = Mobile Training Team. MTTs are common throughout all branches of the service and the term is even used in Law Enforcement, but in SF, a MTT is usually an ODA deployed on a FID/COIN mission to a friendly foreign government to assist in the training of their military in UW or COIN ops. SF deploys anywhere between 120 and 200 MTTs annually. SF also deploys JCETTs (Joint Combined Exchange Training Team), TATs (Tactical Analysis Team), and a whole plethora of Tactical, Civil Affairs, Security Assistance, Medical and Engineering missions as a part of the MTT mission. It is the Bread and Butter of Special Forces Operations - the MTT is the vehicle by which SF carries out UW/FIDS/COIN - the DA/SR/CT stuff is not our primary mission - they are tools in our belt, something we teach others to do. |
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Quiet Professional BTDT |
PS
FID = Foreign Internal Defense COIN = Counter Insurgency UW = Unconventional Warfare (Guerrilla/Counter-Guerrilla Warfare) DA = Direct Action SR = Special Reconnaisance CT = Counter-Terrorism The latter three are the glamorous, high-speed, door-kicker and sneaky-pete missions...the ones everybody wants a piece of for the action, but they are NOT primary to true SF operations. |
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