I just enlisted through the blue to green program today, my ship date isn't until September 16th. I took the 13B slot because the other choices I had were 88m, 13d, 25m (option 3, needs of the army.) I am looking to give SF a shot. How would I go about doing this. I am a E6 Navy/Search and rescue swimmer/Marine Cadre Instructor/Small Arms Instructor/Training supervisor. I have outstanding pt scores and I am motivated. Please respond, shoot me an email at Byron.Brinkley@navy.mil, only people that KNOW what they are talking about please.
Originally posted by byron_brinkley: I just enlisted through the blue to green program today, my ship date isn't until September 16th. I took the 13B slot because the other choices I had were 88m, 13d, 25m (option 3, needs of the army.) I am looking to give SF a shot. How would I go about doing this. I am a E6 Navy/Search and rescue swimmer/Marine Cadre Instructor/Small Arms Instructor/Training supervisor. I have outstanding pt scores and I am motivated. Please respond, shoot me an email at Byron.Brinkley@navy.mil, only people that KNOW what they are talking about please.
Google is your friend:
You fill out a DA-4187-1-R requesting "Special Forces Training/Assignment"
In regards to your rank:
"Enlisted applicants must be in the pay grade of E-4 to E-6 or E7s with no more than 12 years TIS and 9 months TIG."
"Specialists, Corporals, and Sergeants who successfully complete SFAS will normally have their Retention Control Point waived to attend the SFQC. Upon successful completion of SFQC, they will be allowed continued service. Staff Sergeants approaching their RCP will not be allowed to apply. Each Sergeant First Class (SFC) must have no more than 12 years time in service and nine months time in grade when applying for SFAS and must be either airborne or ranger qualified."
"Must have a minimum of 36 months remaining Time in Service (TIS) upon completion of the SFQC."
Yes, I know the pre-req's. My wife keeps me up to date on all those, she's a 42L reservist. My question is about timing. When would I be able to actually route the form? Could I get PTDY between AIT and my PCS orders to attend SFAS?
Originally posted by byron_brinkley: Yes, I know the pre-req's. My wife keeps me up to date on all those, she's a 42L reservist. My question is about timing. When would I be able to actually route the form? Could I get PTDY between AIT and my PCS orders to attend SFAS?
Wow, there's probably some reg about required time to stay in the position you enlisted for, either for blue to green or following an AIT but I sure couldn't tell you. I'd go to the recruiter and make sure you get the reg and not just his opinion. FWIW, back in the day when you graduated DLI (language school) there was an actual reg you had to serve 12 months before you could move out of the MOS, go to OCS, etc... I'm sure the Army is going to want their time.
PTDY for SFAS (or even taking leave)might work after you PCS, if you are stationed CONUS. Otherwise, if you are considering a career in SF why not do a deployment as a 13B? You'll spend a year learning the Army way of doing things and (frankly) avoid being harrased the rest of your career by your team for having only ever beeing a "sailor" and not a soldier (unfair, but that's what guys do).
Yes sir, I was considering the deployment as a 13b and the experience that goes with it. I don't mind being harassed for being a sailor, I like being a sailor. I just don't like the Navy. I've volunteered for a deployment 3 times since I have been on shore duty, and I got passed up for admin types and a guy with the same instructor quals I have but he has about 20% more body fat and wanted to deploy to get out of the PFA. This branch is just not what I want anymore.
Originally posted by byron_brinkley: Yes sir, I was considering the deployment as a 13b and the experience that goes with it. I don't mind being harassed for being a sailor, I like being a sailor.
No shame in havng been a sailor (hopefully you understood my implication). Going from a conventional non-combat MOS in one branch of service to a non-conventional combat MOS in another branch could result in a less than smooth transition.
If nothing else the 13B deployment would give you time to become acustomed as a soon to be senior NCO to the Army way, paperwork, nomenclature, etc...
You'll have years (decades?) to be on a team. You can afford the time to get a solid foundation in the Army.
Well I appreciate the help with the SF request, I keep hearing its much different than what I am used to in my current occupation. Next item would be the question that if someone knew someone at AHRC that could maybe swindle me an 11b slot. It just doesn't seem like the blue to green program was made for people that just want more out of the military. Its made for people that are being forced out. Let me know and I will send my BIO.
As a old squid (got out in 1993 also a rescue swimmer) I would head the Majors advice however grandfatherly it may have been
I came into the Army as an E5 (was an E6 in the Navy) and as he stated coming from a non-combatant job to a (especially) SF type of MOS will be difficult.
I am a 11B and the NCO role is different then how the Navy leadership roles are by a long shot. Many Navy people I have met so far that have been in have told me that was the biggest difference to adjust to.
You step in as an E6 in infantry or SF you better have your game on to lead the soldiers under you....
I'm looking at what would be offered to me if I were to take a cut to Sgt. Actually I would feel alot better about switching over if I had a paygrade taken. I don't like the idea of an MOS hurting so bad that they are taking any Senior NCO just for a warm body. Thats not the kind of job I'm looking for, dues will be paid mates.
