Does anyone have any proof of any conspiracy thoery being proven? Ever?
I would think that with all of them floating around out there at least ONE would have been proven as correct by now.

I can prove it, but the "eyes" are watching and they remove everything if you type the proof..

Dont believe me??

Watch....


The fact of the Roswell incident is......

DELETED

There you go, the prove of the Roswell incident..

DAMN, they did it again..

Told you..

Well ya.

Just click here and ask your question.

A conspiracy theory was proven true beyond a reasonable doubt when a jury found government agents guilty of complicity in the conspiracy to assassinate Martin Luther King.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html

And the Israeli government admitted it was responsible for the Lavon Affair conspiracy to blow up US and British targets, eventually giving three of the conspirators honorary rank in the IDF for their role in the conspiracy.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

And the fact that Israeli terrorists were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge proves that there was some kind of conspiracy to blow it up.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18052384

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

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Originally posted by Jonathan_Pollard:
A conspiracy theory was proven true beyond a reasonable doubt when a jury found government agents guilty of complicity in the conspiracy to assassinate Martin Luther King.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html

And the Israeli government admitted it was responsible for the Lavon Affair conspiracy to blow up US and British targets, eventually giving three of the conspirators honorary rank in the IDF for their role in the conspiracy.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

And the fact that Israeli terrorists were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge proves that there was some kind of conspiracy to blow it up.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18052384

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

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Originally posted by JBL266:

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Originally posted by Jonathan_Pollard:
A conspiracy theory was proven true beyond a reasonable doubt when a jury found government agents guilty of complicity in the conspiracy to assassinate Martin Luther King.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html

And the Israeli government admitted it was responsible for the Lavon Affair conspiracy to blow up US and British targets, eventually giving three of the conspirators honorary rank in the IDF for their role in the conspiracy.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

And the fact that Israeli terrorists were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge proves that there was some kind of conspiracy to blow it up.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18052384

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.

Just the fact that the JCS formulated such a plan including attacking America and killing american citizens as acceptable causualties and kept it secrect for almost 50 years, should be reason enough to consider any conspiracy. Someone high in office had to direct them to formulate such a plan. The fact why it wasnt used is a whole different discussion.

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Originally posted by AF_1stSgt:
Does anyone have any proof of any conspiracy thoery being proven? Ever?
I would think that with all of them floating around out there at least ONE would have been proven as correct by now.

How could that be possible when dealing with people? People who devise serious conspiracies are those who are in power and control the situation. Members of the liberty are still trying to get a chance to have a congressional hearing for almost 50 years as the number of survivors die off. A commitee of highly credible government wittnesses with clearances beyond top secret are lobbying to testify under oath as to the exsistance of space craft and aliens if thier given immunity. Not happening.
Highly credible engineers forensic experts and physicists have directly opposing views concerning 9/11 and yet are not put head to head to justify scientifically thier claims. Why? Who could control that? Maybe there are good reasons that benefit the nation? But dont discount and laugh off conspiracy theories untill there is an answer, thats very dangerous and leaves a wide margin for corruption and desolution of a nation.

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Originally posted by john2x:

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Originally posted by JBL266:

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Originally posted by Jonathan_Pollard:
A conspiracy theory was proven true beyond a reasonable doubt when a jury found government agents guilty of complicity in the conspiracy to assassinate Martin Luther King.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html

And the Israeli government admitted it was responsible for the Lavon Affair conspiracy to blow up US and British targets, eventually giving three of the conspirators honorary rank in the IDF for their role in the conspiracy.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

And the fact that Israeli terrorists were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge proves that there was some kind of conspiracy to blow it up.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18052384

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.

Just the fact that the JCS formulated such a plan including attacking America and killing american citizens as acceptable causualties and kept it secrect for almost 50 years, should be reason enough to consider any conspiracy. Someone high in office had to direct them to formulate such a plan. The fact why it wasnt used is a whole different discussion.

It was one of many "proposals" that wonks in the Pentagon think up. It was kept "Secret", because it was "Classified", duh.



conspiracy (plural: conspiracies)

1. act of working in secret to obtain some goal, usually understood with negative connotations.
2. (law) an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future.
3. a plot to overthrow a government or other powers
4. conspiracy- the ability to have the material means and a motive to commit an act against the law
5. a group of ravens


According to this definition, just about anything a government does could be called a "conspiracy".

According to this definition, just about anything a government does could be called a "conspiracy".

Im well aware of what a conspiracy is and that could include conspiracies to do good things.

But I again repeat, The fact that murder and an attack against America was even considered is cause to raise a red flag and ask questions and demand answers.

Elected officials in a democracy considering Killing American citizens and attacking America is cause for a full congressional investigation and a criminal conspiracy whether or not it was implimented is irrevelent.

Try composing a plan on the assasination of an elected official, or a group planning an insurrection or even discusing it in a bar and being overheard. the S.S. would be at your door before you got home and you would be in a world of shite and under surviellance forever as an enemy of the state. But theres always a justified benefit of doubt when it comes to government. How strange.

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Originally posted by AF_1stSgt:
Does anyone have any proof of any conspiracy thoery being proven? Ever?
I would think that with all of them floating around out there at least ONE would have been proven as correct by now.

How about "Watergate"? Wouldn't you catagorize that as a conspiracy that was proven?...Just wonderin'...????

Or how about the current wiretapping of private citizens whomever they may be?

Can't say it was not a crime but I can't say it was all badly intended either...?

Or how about the Tea Pot Dome Scandal???

Some pretty heavy stuff even for back then.

How about "Watergate"? Wouldn't you catagorize that as a conspiracy that was proven?...Just wonderin'...????


Well nixon resigned before he was impeached and Ford Pardoned him, no jail time. But how about Prescot Bush with the 1930s Brown Harriman group charged with trading with the enemy, now the Carlyle Group stll Bushie controlled. Interestingly though nobody ever goes to jail and just resurface under different names.

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A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

YEAH!!! Then all of us "nuts" can be qualified for federal grants for non-profit organizations!!! I LIKE that idea!!!

WOO HOO!!! Gettin' paid for being crazy!

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Originally posted by DiscountAttic:

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A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

YEAH!!! Then all of us "nuts" can be qualified for federal grants for non-profit organizations!!! I LIKE that idea!!!

WOO HOO!!! Gettin' paid for being crazy!

could all ths be BS?
http://www.twf.org/Gallery/911f/911talk.html

[Heres another one for yall

Vigilius Haufniensis
Report: Cheney ordered nuking Iran
Sat Oct 6, 2007 17:34
72.201.70.108


Report: Cheney ordered nuking Iran
Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:52:12


A B-52 bomber taking off

A new report has linked the mysterious flight of a nuclear armed B-52 bomber to the US Vice President's secret plan to attack Iran.

Earlier, news outlets revealed that, on August 30, a B-52 bomber loaded with six nuclear armed cruise missiles had flown for more than three hours over several states. The incident prompted an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander.

The report by Webster Tarpley published on Rense website on Saturday claimed that many analysts believed those weapons were destined to be used in a nuclear blitz on Iran, which may have been scheduled for September 6, the day that Israel launched its own aerial attack on Syria.

The report adds " Even more heinous uses of these cruise missiles here inside the United States can also not be excluded, given the insistence of the Cheney Doctrine on a terrorist act in the US to be blamed on Iran as the immediate pretext for the Iran war ­ as Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate Foreign relations Committee on Feb. 1, 2007.”

Many sources (see Wayne Madsen Report, September 24) agree that the transfer of these nuclear weapons to Iran was blocked by US Air Force personnel, backed up by anti-Cheney factions in the intelligence community, who refused to obey an illegal order.

It is also important to note that some half dozen personnel linked to the Minot and Barksdale air bases have reportedly died under mysterious circumstances since July.

Elsewhere in his report, Terpley quotes his sources as saying that "It is unlikely that a sneak attack on Iran could get through the normal channels of the US national security interagency process. The realization of Cheney's war plan depends upon an outside manufactured event, along the lines of 9/11, which could be used to engineer the typical neocon end run around the standard operating procedures and launch the wider war. "

Webster Griffin Tarpley is an author, lecturer, and critic of US foreign and domestic policy. He maintains that the events of 9/11 were engineered by the military and arms industries. He envisions a model of false flag terror operated by a rogue network of independent operatives in the privatized military intelligence sector and corporate media.

Pakistan's President said 01/26/08y: agents of Pakistan's made ruined USSR But then turn USA? Area USA without any speaking, and theories better than area USSR.
But then need to Iran like potential enemy very hard as possible. or need wait death for USA people.

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Originally posted by JBL266:

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Originally posted by Jonathan_Pollard:
A conspiracy theory was proven true beyond a reasonable doubt when a jury found government agents guilty of complicity in the conspiracy to assassinate Martin Luther King.
http://www.thekingcenter.org/news/trial.html

And the Israeli government admitted it was responsible for the Lavon Affair conspiracy to blow up US and British targets, eventually giving three of the conspirators honorary rank in the IDF for their role in the conspiracy.

And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

And the fact that Israeli terrorists were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge proves that there was some kind of conspiracy to blow it up.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18052384

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

A conspiracy nut will look at nothing, and see "proof". It should be a religion.

I thought you knew - they are. Now did you wish to meet some of the priests?

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And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.

nope never put into activation...

Plenty of conspriacy theories proven.

The failed assassination plot of Cicero (a biggie.)

Caesar's own assassination plot.

1894 overthrow of the King of Hawaii by businessmen.

Mulholland and L.A. water rights

John, that's pretty amazing. It never ceases to amaze me what some people are willing to believe. I had a friend who had a masters degree who came believe that the Anthrax shot was killing one third of all who took it. She was absolutely serious! You think some one might notice that sort of thing, huh??

many conspiracy thoeries proven true, these people are just stupid beyond fkn belief

AF_1stSgt,

Re: "Does anyone have any proof of any conspiracy thoery being proven? Ever?"

The Iran/Contra criminal conspiracy comes to mind.

People in the United States are tried, convicted, and sentenced, for conspiring to commit crimes all the time.

Well, if you think about it, investigators always start out with a theory when solving a crime.
They solve crimes all the time.
Just because something is called a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it is false, or the theorists is a nut. You have to start somewhere.

I was going to mention Watergate as a possible proven conspiracy. But, I see it has been mentioned.

Yeah, it's a case of conspiracies not proven because of their tracks being too well concealed.

44BC Caesar's Assination Plot
1763 small pox infection, Pontiacs Rebellion
1894 - the Dreyfus Affair
1913 L.A.'s usurption of Owen Valley Water Rights under Muhlolland to support development of the SF Valley.
1965 - Under Mayor Sam Yorty, the removal of the Bunker Hill neighborhood for development. Whosale tracts of land were handed over free of charge in downtown L.A. to major corporations (a scandal the city of L.A. is still dealing with because of a distorted tax base) 73 floor buildings pay less property tax does your average home owner.
1991 - the removal of the Embarcadero Freeway in San Fran, for the development rights of the Embarcadero (waterfront), over the protestation of the majority of people who wanted to preserve the freeway. Land was purchased for pennies on the dollar while the freeway's removal was delayed.

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The question of Has a conspiracy theory ever been proven brings a lot of questions to mind.
One of which I would like to pose to you. I do not expect a reply but would like for you to give it some thought.
If one of your fellow soldiers does something that is not right in the eyes of the nation that you are in, you and some of your team members see it, you tell him that it is not right, But do not report it and defend that person if it is questioned.
This happens a lot. As a former M.P. I have seen it many times."He is one of us and we are not going to let him be handed over to them!"
The question is, If you are wealthy and powerful, part of one of the "Organizations". Aren't they going to look out for their own and do special favors if the best interests of the group or money is involved?
#2 How good is a secret if people Know it?

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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And of course the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was proven to have existed, although President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.

nope never put into activation...

And you know that as a fact? or is that just your opinion? If its a fact, and if you understand what a fact is, Then please explaine how you can make such a statement eliminating the possibility, and substantiate it.

A conspiracy is when any group conspires to keep an action or knowledge hidden or secret. The confusion begins when evil or wrong doing is asserted to a said action or knowledge, when in reality all action taken to conceal anything by decree or action, by any group, regardless of the merit attributed to the reasoning of the concealment.

The actions and decrees initiated to keep military secrets, secret is a conspiracy, and is bound by punishment and oaths. Arguing the legitimacy of keeping knowledge and/or actions secret is irrelevant it is still a group conspiring to keep something secret. Placing a good or bad on the action, to conclude it’s consideration for a conspiracy, is only a matter of opinion.

An example; It is good the U.S. military has conspired to keep nuclear weapons technologies secret, as to three bank robbers conspiring to rob a bank isn’t good. Both are however still conspiracies, though some would rather call the military action, “National Security”.

My point being, conspiracies exist, some good for the general public, some not so good. All a conspiracy needs is for a group to agree to keep an action or knowledge secret for whatever reason, good or evil.

ARS

Yep, often you dont even need to take any effort to keep things secret, they just are by default. people build relationships and cut corners for friends. people dig ditches to help hide corpses for friends and kill their friends enemies while their friend is off making an alibi. friends cook up clever schemes to smuggle heroin into the country and weapons out.

however, take it from Kennedy, secrecy is repugnant.

youtube.com/watch?v=Gpmi7dBet0c

if what you are doing is such a good idea, you can discuss it, defend it, argue its merits. bay of pigs? dumb idea. overthrowing iran's democracy? dumb idea. loosening up lending regulations to make it easier for people to get into homes (which they cant afford)? dumb idea. cold war? dumb idea

ideas made in secret are often laden with crippling amounts of stupid.