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Originally posted by tmac1238:
STAGE I: Let's deal with exactly one thing at a time so that your victims can understand the truth. If you are not willing to deal with the points and tests that I give, just assume like the other propagandist that no one can understand my posts and go your way! In detention camps is where rantings and hate will rule the day, but even there will always only be temporary.

1. Osama attacks us at 911. I would go after Osama and no one else till he is caught.

What would you do? What would your profile, your years of service or your credentials tell you to do?

Here is another person who praises the wars and is animated by the same feelings you have. Although he claims our troops are dying for our freedoms, he constantly claims that a night of blood is coming on America where he will participate in the murders of many people:

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapLeoWest.htm
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapLeoWest2.htm

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Originally posted by gypsysnipe:
tmac, this is a recommendation to change your posts from being provocative to something more reasonable.

Your multiple threads are not a good contribution to the discussions that occur here, your borderline slander is causing a lot of heartburn with some of the Veterans here, and this needs to change.

If you continue to post as you have been, you will receive a 10 day warning, and if you continue after that your Privileges will be suspended for 10 days.

This is not a threat, but a statement of possible action. This website has Terms Of Service, which you agreed to follow when you became a member. If you do not follow them, action will be taken.

Regards,
Gypsysnipe
Moderator

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Originally posted by tmac1238:
Banned for what??? Attacking other people?

For "tearing down America?" For reporting terrorist threats and being a good American?

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Originally posted by tmac1238:
Moderator sir,

I appreciate your kindness and tolerance. But due to the fact that there is nothing in the Terms of Service that prohibits lying, some will assuredly do well here, or at least have longevity here, while others will not. I understand you have not banned me, but it's best that I at least lie low.

I am not willing to get on your bad side since it is quite obvious that discussion, however seeming deviant, does not bother you. I merely stated that my ideas do not hurt the military for they were in practice for most of the existence of America. My idea was that the Constitution protected us for over 200 years ever while Muslim terrorists were still always all around. If all that time we could not notice that we don't need anything extra that would wind up sending us backward for the most minor of threats, we are not at least competent enough to know which direction we should follow now.

When radical things are inserted, then there is a problem which can cause an identity crisis. By this a time could come where true Americans may be viewed as treasonous or terrorists when the exact opposite is true. Trouble can be caused by a stimulus, but it can also be caused by a response.

I can tell you were also tolerant because you also wanted to see if the challenges brought by me could be met. I am sure others looked to see if the issues I brought could be explained or countered. They were denied this. It was not like watching the judge programs like Judge Judy, Wapner, Mills Lane or Matthis, where questions are asked and answers are demanded not even just for the benefit of those judges, but especially for the witnessing public. The more the public watches is the more they learn how to think. But most forums now discredit those shows since those shows readily dispatched anyone who wasted the time of the people and couldn't directly answer the simplest of questions. If any litigant covered-up evidence, that was an automatic assumption of guilt, and everyone except the individual litigants always agreed. Any question that is persistently evaded made the judges on those programs to know where the guilty party was and when they were lied to. It was not only the judges who knew. All the viewers even on TV understood where the guilty party was. What I received directly, however, from my opponents was not discussion.

One easy thing that can be noted though is the fact that what I speak most of the American population subscribe to, including the idea that 911 is planned. How will this fact be avoided? The choice I encountered from the participants on the forum with how to deal with this unfortunate circumstance is to attack and heckle. This should bring serious reflection if that in fact angers veteran members of the military, and responses these participants gave to me also violated the terms of service.

Through discussion the truth can be found. True discussion hurts no one. But some say, "But you're speaking against the United States Military! encouraging treason, sedition and insurrecton!" But by using the words and thoughts of the United States Military through its entire history up to the year 2001?? Just five years after defeating the Axis powers, then being told we have to adopt what for security? We have to adopt what changes with just five years passing and horrible memories still fresh? For me to then have the power to ressurrect all the fallen Vietnam and WWII vets to have them to understand the arguments we are having today? You think they would be confused like how we now are? How would we survive under the policy that we must avoid trouble if I was able to ressurrect those fallen vets? Those vets would cast their eyes on those making the changes. They will not take their eyes off of them. Fear will run in the hearts of those now making the changes, and they would read what would happen to them very quickly.

Then 3,000 die at 911. Time has passed and I ressurrect those 3,000. What do you think they would ask? "After we died, you're going after who to avenge our deaths??? You have lost your freakin' minds!!! Who refused to testify under the investigation? That investigation over our graves did not take place right away? Evidence was covered up??? Data was destroyed???" I would have nothing to fear with a major ressurrection of all our fallen vets in former wars. I would have nothing to fear in a ressurrection of all the victims of 911. It would be odd for their families to be upset with me now.

If we don't think like the people and then make every effort to show we never will nor will we care, we still ought to consider what we're going to do about the guilt of blood we thirsted so much for and what this will do to our country whether we like it or not.

We already paid a great expense just recently. It's going to be hard to convince everyone that everyone will pay this expense whether they agreed with what was done or not. Events are worked out where those responsible will not be held culpable by any human hand. But they still will have to bear responsibility anyway. The longer this waits will be the more tragic their reward, but we will share the great cost they forced us into. The time will come when nothing will be more pressing on our minds than the thought of what might have been had we not just stood there and let them work their will. It is also a natural law of life that if we learn to tolerate or court those who cause us problems we will eventually learn how to condemn those in whom the solutions are found.

People prophecied that tragedy will come upon America even while claiming our soldiers are put in harm's way to prevent it. Time will prove that those prophecies, however horrible, will come true.

Thank you for your patience,

Ted McMillan
http://www.TheirSecrets.info