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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
I have heard it from my husband and I have heard it now from several people that our president barrack hussein obama is not an american born citizen. I also heard that he got a birth certificate from hawaii which is legal but it doesnt mean he was born there. He was born I think in england if Im not mistaken. He is therefore not an american and should not be our president .otherwise arnold schwartenager could be our president. I am wondering why, this never became an issue. I heard about it before, but didnt think about it. I wonder if that is what was counted on, the fact that no one would really care. I think now that it does matter. It is one of the stipulations for being a president of this country. If you are born here then you have a connection to here. I would like this investigated and checked out for sure ..so many of us can put it to rest. I voted conservative because I dont believe in abortion...that is my main issue. anyone who supports abortion in any degree doesnt get my vote..killing babies..no way...so...I voted my concious not my color. If barrack supported pro-life..he would have my vote...but he doesnt. Im very upset that Im finding out now that he is not an american and I want something done about it. I want him to PRODUCE A VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE..I ALSO URGE ANYONE WHO READ THIS TO DEMAND THE SAME THING..A LITMUS TEST...EVERY PRESIDENT SO FAR HAS DONE SO..WHY NOT BARRACK...THOSE OF YOU WHO VOTED FOR HIM BASED ON HIS POLICIES SHOULD WANT THAT ALSO..AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ARMED FORCES SHOULD REALLY DEMAND THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU ARE SERVING UNDER A COMMANDER AND CHIEF WHO REALLY SHOULDNT BE...HOW BAD IS THAT..IM GOING TO EMAIL MY CONGRESSMAN AND DEMAND THAT THIS HAPPEN...AND LIKE I SAID ANYONE READING THIS..DONT BE AFRAID TO ASK FOR THIS ALSO..IS OUR PRESIDENT AN AMERICAN BORN CITIZEN..IF NOT..HE IS ILLEGAL...AND I WANT TO KNOW..THANK YOU..
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There have been hysterical emails and conspiracy theories all over the internet and these discussion boards about this for most of the past year. During that time lawsuits about it have been thrown out of several courts due to lack of standing and even due to a total lack of credible evidence. The conservative dominated Supreme Court even refused to hear an appeal of the dismissal of the most prominent case questioning Obama's U.S. citizenship. This is a dead horse. Only the most rabid wingnuts are still beating it.
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Well, I demand that you prove what you say here is true. PRODUCE A VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE..I ALSO URGE ANYONE WHO READ THIS TO DEMAND THE SAME THING..A LITMUS TEST...EVERY PRESIDENT SO FAR HAS DONE SO..WHY NOT BARRACK... You know for a fact that EVERY president had to provide their Vault BC, then prove it. |
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I'm amazed this lady heard something from her husband and she has declared it so. I'de like to know what percentage of the stuff her husband tells her does she believe. Are you aware you can be born abroad of a US parent and still be a citizen. Are you saying President Obama's mother was not a US citizen. Lady pull your head out and do your research. I'm a retired E-08 in the Air force Reserve and I detested George Bush but her was commander in chief and I swore to defend the constitution of the US. I have a son who is an Air Force Officer and a daughter who will be commissioned in the Army next May. If Mitt Romney is elected President will they be able to use the argument, because he is a Mormon they can openly refuse to acknowledge him as President. Lady think long and hard about your decision because it just may be the un-doing of our democracy.
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Think about it. If you were president and someone questioned your citizenship, why not release your birth record... unless you have something to hide?
Why not unseal your university records, unless you have something to hide? How did Obama manage to be admitted to the nation of Pakistan as a visitor in the 80's, during a time when all Americans were forbidden to enter that country? This message has been edited. Last edited by: mainedawg, |
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
In reply to your post sir and using lets say credentials behind it..my so called husband is retired msgt airforce 23 yrs..his father before him died during the nurenberg trials and fought bravely saving his platoon WWII. Also, we have two sons..one grad of west point and then masters in finance via military and then afghanistan and finally home..then my other son airforce military police..kicking doors down and other jobs surviving to come home..my husband vietnam exposed to agent orange..and other chemicals..my father wwII shot in the line of duty ..so..pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee credentials asside..Im the airforce wife army daughter and mother of two in the military..dont even go there..oh and I had a son born in england...via two parents who are usa..helllllllllllllloooooooooooo....now throw that at me again....I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ASK MY SO CALLED PRESIDENT TO PROVE WHO HE IS..IMAGINE HE IS THE COMANDER IN CHIEF..HIS ALLEGIANCE TO THIS COUNTRY MATTERS TO EVERY MILITARY PERSON SENT OUT TO FIGHT..IM NOT SHOOTING down THE PERSON BARRACK..I THINK HE IS A GREAT GUY...EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT VOTE FOR HIMMM..MY VOTE IS BASED ON HIS FEELINGS ABOUT PRO-CHOICE...IM ANTI ABORTION..NOW...I VOTED FOR GEORGE BUSH..THANK GOD HE WON..THE ALTERNATIVES WERE NOT GREAT...AND MITT ROMNEY...HEY..IM MORMON SO DONT EVEN GO THERE..I KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE AN AMERICAN AND SUUPPOSEDLY HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION BUT STILL BE PERSECUTED..HOWEVER, I MYSELF HAVENT HAD IT THAT BAD AS THE ONES WHO CAME BEFORE ME.. I want my country to have the best..and if for any reason BARRACK hasnt come forth with his VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE... then I say...WHY???....HOW HARD CAN IT BE..PRODUCE THE TRUTH..IF HE IS..THEN HEY I AND A FEW OTHERS WILL REST EASY...IF HE HAS A HARD TIME..THEN WE DO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE WORRYING ABOUT..AND OH ..YES...NOT ONLY MY HUSBAND THINKS THIS..BUT MANY OTHERS DO ALSO...IT WAS PUSHED UNDER THE PROVERBIAL LIBERAL RUG..BARRACK WAS SQUEEZED IN..AS THE PAWN..OF LIBERAL AGENDA...OR SHOULD I SAY SOCIALISM...and hey, do you see my husband commenting..NO ITS ME..I THINK THAT WAY ALSO...I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS..IM NOT JUST A TALKER..I EMAILED MY CONGRESSMAN AND MY SENATOR AND WWW.WHITEHOUSE.GOV ..AND TOLD THEM THE SAME THING..IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO GROAN ABOUT..THEN LETS GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN...NOT HIDE IT..LIKE I SAID BEFORE..UNDER THE LIBERAL RUG....THANK YOU
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
and so sir..do you have proof...I say why wasnt this an issue before he was elected..Im hearing enough about it now..but..why is it so difficult for the proof to be brought forth..if it were asked of me..I would just get the proof and throw it in the face of the accusers..so..if you say yes..how is it that you know?
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President Obama's birth certificate has been part of the public record for well over a year. If you would like to see a copy of it I would suggest you Google Obama's birth Certificate and sworn statements from the head of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii. As for the active duty officer who made the comments about his Commander and Chief, he need to face Court Marial. If an active duty Officer had made these comments about G.W. Bush he would have been roasted over an open fire while some poster hear cheered. As for your Husband thank him service and tell him that he is a brainless wingnut.
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
well until now..I just listened to people talk..but there is a saying I have on a plaque given to me by a friend and it goes like this:"all that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing:...Im not saying that barrack is evil..he wanted the presidency..he got it..no one did anything ..I didnt vote for him ..the democratic process took place...but i do remember him being sort of plagued by this question of his legitimacy as a us born citizen...and then it was dropped like a hot rock...well, peace needs to prevail and in the minds of all soldiers not just a few...so, I guess your right..Im a die hard..with credentials...thank you
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Moderators, stop this ridiculous crap. .
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - T. Jefferson |
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Why it's Freedom of speech and it's a god given right to all to question there leaders. |
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Stop this BS moderators. If this were George Bush, you would have done it in a heartbeat. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - T. Jefferson |
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It's not disrespectful and it's just questioning. The only problem you have with it is the fact that is obama being question. |
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Sorry jack, New administration, new rules. Given the multiple new posters on threads like P/CP and ITN and them being allowed to continue to foist the idiotic birther agenda has pretty much allowed this forum to sink to a new low. JMHO of course. |
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
wow...all I did was post something and bang..hmmm makes me wonder..also..I didnt know there was a WORD POLICE LISTENING OR WHOOPS READING... since when did stating something that has no fowl language..or anything dangerous in it..become so...
and why is it that when I tried to answer some of the comments that my computer went crazy..I hope this website isnt biased...or somehow sends out a virus...my virus catcher got it..I had to turn my machine off and restart but it was gotten and that is why Im on now..so..at first I thought it was the commenter..sorry commenters ..but then it happened on three comments..not the same people..I then realized that it had to be the website putting that out..I wonder should I turn in military.com for putting out a virus or something to this fact..oh ..and it can be proved who did it..because I can take it to a specialist to find out what happened..you know computers have memory...so why moderators or whoever you are did you do that to my computer..as I was trying to answer the commenters..it shot out tons of windows with my comments on it..I know that like I said couldnt be the commenters as there were too many different ones..and word police..people are not taken off or done to like I was for stating what they are interested in..if that were the case..we would all be dead...I figure there must be a liberal running this show...what happened to balanced and fair....pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee...Im sick of hearing about how it would have been if it happened on george bushes beat...get rid of that..what happened was he was criticized to death..over and over and over..and the minute someone states anything about barrack..whoa hosseee..neeeeeigh...what is up with that??? |
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
one more thing..where was all that commradery when old george was president..hmmm now we are supposed to be respectful of a president ..why were you not respectful..why was georges picture not on there like barracks is..what is going on here..promoting the left wing socialism communism agenda...that is what I see..man I cannot believe it..a military site.oh i forgot..its not really a military site..its just military people go there..the moderators or people who run it..are civilians..who think they know military..nottttt.....where was the respect when george was in office..now you say..lets get together and show some civility..ok where was it when george was in office...I repeat that..yea...and for the guy who said something about the birth cert in hawaii..I answered one person..those are a dime a dozen..what is up with not coming forward with what he has barrack that is..he would say the same to us..get your birth cert the one in the vault out and show us...imagine if you will its just little old me being asked for my cert..you wouldnt hld back the punches...after all..he is our commander in chief..when that is the case he should be willing to comply as he would expect any of us to do...I respect the office of the president..the man in that office has to earn it....I had no respect for slick willy..and I dont have to tell you why...it was all over the news...however, I do respect barrack for being a decent man..he is married and loves his wife and kids..those things i respect...but hiding info..no...all he has to do is comply...he seems like a nice guy..why wouldnt he...??
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
the person who asked if everyone has to produce the vault birth certificate...yes they do..and even before they do..most have already had everything about them dug out..with one exception..hmmm our new president..he is allowed to hide things...why is that..even slick willy didnt get that privledge....why barrack?...we are all created equal and treated equal...yea right...when donkeys fly...or is that when money talks..lets see ..hmm havent you ever been asked for your birth certificate...Im sure you have..when getting a visa to go to a diffrent country..and so on..well, most of us dont have a problem..but when your mom and dad arent american..daaaa that might come into question..its not bad being born in a different place..one of my sons was..but ..he doesnt want to be ..PRESIDENT..yea...
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COMMENT: Move this nonsense to the conspiracy forum where it will be "respected." 39 posts in nearly 6 years from this OP, and now this revelation? |
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I got exactly that far before I stopped reading. ON TOPIC: President Obama has a TS-SCI Clearance. Pretty sure that would have turned up that he wasn't born in the U.S. |
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CHIEF MODERATOR PGR RIDER NEMESIS1960@gmail.com Highly Experienced Member |
WHY? I SEEM TO RECALL MEMBERS FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET THE RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT SHORT OF DEATH THREATS OR TREASON...WELL YOU GOT IT AND NOW THAT THE PRESIDENT'S NAME IS OBAMA AND NOT BUSH YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES AGAIN? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. FACE IT THESE FOLKS ARE HARMLESS, LET THEM RANT ALL THEY WANT, THEY TOO HAVE A RIGHT TO THIER OPINION, NO MATTER HOW OFF THE CHAIN IT IS. Don't mess with the OLD FARTS - age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance...... |
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SUSPENDED 30 DAYS 3-6-09 NEMESIS New Member |
-- I was recently engaged in an exchange of emails with my buddy from Oz that prompted me to revisit FactCheck.org, where the Annenberg-funded website has published a web page entitled, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate." The information on this page is 100% bovine excrement. FactCheck.org's Summary 1. "In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate..." This statement is false -- the campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth." The document is not now and never has been a birth certificate, and FactCheck.org knows it. So why did they publish this lie? 2. "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate." This statement is also a lie. The only people that have seen, touched, and examined Obama's birth certificate is Chiyome Leinaala Fuikino M.D., the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health. She wrote, "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record." So your conclusion, " We conclude that..." is false, because your conclusions are based on a false statement, that you have seen Obama's birth certificate -- you haven't, because the State of Hawaii won't release it. What do you think is going on in the 48 lawsuits against Obama. These suits are all trying to get to Obama's birth certificate and 48 times, judges have said, "I can't go for that, ohh, no, I can't go for that." 3. "Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu." Complete fabrication and bold-faced lie. What Fuikino wrote was, " "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." Nowhere in that statement does it say Obama was born in Honolulu, and here is the complete statement: -- check it out yourself. And, nowhere does FactCheck.org identify the militantly partisan website that released the "Certification of Live Birth" they received from the Obama Campaign -- The Daily Kos -- one of the wackiest websites extant. This FACT makes this entire scenario suspicious, if not patently ridiculous. FactCheck.org's Analysis 1. FactCheck.org's own analysis confirms what I wrote above, under Summary. 2. FactCheck.org presents a photo of a "Certification of Live Birth," captioned, "The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller." That's a lie, as well. The document in this photo is a "Certification of Live Birth" (getting tiresome, isn't it) -- not a birth certificate. They are different documents, and your mendacious organization knows the difference -- Joseph Goebbels would be proud of FactCheck.org's FactCheck.org presents a photo image of the document further down the page, under Analysis -- That document is not a "birth certificate." It is a "Certification of Live Birth," again, FactCheck.org knowingly misrepresents the document as something it is not, and it's not the document that was released. Here is the document that was released to The Daily Kos. The original document released had its Certificate Number blacked out -- and if one looks at the document, it says at the bottom, "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE" -- even if the document were genuine -- it isn't VALID. 3. You publish several other images, defending your false allegations. If you want to see what a real analysis is, read Dr. Polarik's ........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZvphQSKJw 4. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961. A birth announcement could have been easily phoned in to the newspaper from anywhere in the world. THis "fact" is inconclusive, unless you know who provided the newspaper with the announcement, the means they used, and where they wer physucally located at the time. FactCheck.org's Anal-ists FactCheck.org identifies their anal-ists as Jess Henig and Joe Miller. OK, that's fine, but who and what Jess Henig and Joe Miller? Are they qualified to make an analysis of ANY document, or are they just a couple of guys hanging around FactCheck.org's office, or are they political operators? What are their bona fides? FactCheck.org doesn't say. Wnder why? I prefer to give credence to Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, provides conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) image created and distributed by Obama's campaign to the Daily Kos, Annenberg's Factcheck, and the St. Petersburg Times, and Politifact, is, unquestionably, a false identification document. Here, is his final report. A second expert forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines has filed an affidavit [.pdf] associated with one of the lawsuits stating the following: 1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto. 2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit [http://therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/anonymous_digitable_expert_declaration_signed.pdf] posted on the internet from "Ron Polarik," who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the "Daily Kos," the Obama Campaign, "Factcheck.org" and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. FactCheck does say their, "representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago," that clearly shows they are working with and for the Obama Campaign. My Comments SInce the title of this page is, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate," everything on the page is a bold-faced lie, because FactCheck.org has never, ever seen Obama's birth certificate. This is not surprising, since this website is funded by the same fine people who fund Obama's buddy, the unrepentent domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. They represent themselves as unbiased and non-partisan. That, of course, is just another lie. "To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed..." George Orwell, "Nineteen Eighty-Four" MOD HAT ON Hot links deleted. This message has been edited. Last edited by: stillkit, |
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CHIEF MODERATOR PGR RIDER NEMESIS1960@gmail.com Highly Experienced Member |
BUT I WILL SAY AS THERE IS NO LINK BY THE OP TO A NEWS ARTICLE I AM MOVING THIS THREAD SOMEWHERE WHERE IT WILL FIT IN NICELY OFF TO CONSPIRCEY FORUM IT GOES
Don't mess with the OLD FARTS - age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery always overcome youth and arrogance...... |
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
ok Nemesis1960...that is fine...Im an old fart and agree it belongs in conspiracy I guess or something like that..who cares..basically I was stating a fact that I have heard too many times...you know that old saying.."where there is smoke there is fire"...amazing all the barrack defenders..why werent the there for george bush...sick of george bush...you have no idea what sick is...of bill clinton..whoa and what did we do..I didnt vote for that man...once again...my husband strikes..and yes I do believe in my husband and what he says..he is a very very smart man...he said in teh begining before bill clinton was elected...that his wife hilary let her husband abuse her that way...to flirt and carry on with other women even before he was elected and the world knew about it and she stayed with him...i dont know if that is love..she must like torture...or she is very brave and can handle it..or..like my husband said...and boy was he right..once again....whew it tires me out..but..HE SAID.." NO WOMAN DOES THAT UNLESS SHE HAS HER OWN AGENDA..AND BELIEVE ME..WE WILL SEE THAT SOON ENOUGH"""....haha and we did..she started right off demanding a job in the whitehouse dealing with our medical insurance..nothing ever came of that...and then new yorks senator..working her way to the whitehouse after getting out of the whitehouse...phew its tireing me out..and then bang..she wants to be president..whoa hossee for sure...yep he pegs them right...she put up with her husband so she could get what she wanted...the presidency....almost did..but..barrack got in her way..phew that was close...so...life goes on..im old and im tired..but i never thought a statement like that would encourage such rage and anger..wow..what is wrong with you people...the dems would do anything to cover up..they did it for slick willy...and they would use anyone to promote their agenda ..even a barrack obama..but..hey I dont have any authority...I will just sit and watch what happens...let the courts do their stuff..and see..who knows ..he might be legit after all...then if he is..we can all rest easier...right..adios muchacho...
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just to be clear here.....so Now it's ok If members completely make up things about Bush? For example....a thread asking for proof that Bush didn't molest his daughters is ok? can we find out when John McCain stopped beating his wife? I also heard Cheney personally tortured an Iraqi during a state trip. all these topics are now "OK"? |
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Did you question if the Governor of California is an American Born Citizen?
Well at least our President can speak english and the Governor of California speaks broken english. So my question to you---is this really all about a white and black thing? |
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Lt Scott R Easterling is a brave and honorable Soldier. I do not understand the questioning of this Soldier's action in this matter?! He is qualified to serve his country and we know that because he thoroughly submitted to the process of qualification to serve in the Armed Forces of The United States of America. As a uniformed Officer, however, he must and should question the inept and total lack of process of qualification by this man elected to be his Commander-in-Chief.
As a citizen of these United States, and as a mother whose Son served 4 deployments in this war on terror, I demand that you show this Officer the respect he is due and direct your attention to the dire matter at hand here. For the safety of these United States, this Officer is doing what I would hope the Armed Forces should do, require this elected Commander-in-Chief to qualify his position with the same rigor as all those who serve this great country. Lt Scott Eaterling is a qualifed Officer asking a question that directly affects the safety of every citizen in this land. It is a simple matter here and the elected Commander-in-Chief should promply provide his qualifications so that this fine Officer can get on with his duties. God Bless The United States Military and God Bless Lt. Scott Eaterling. Beverly Perlson |
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That's a dumb question in the first place!
Darain the pond to get the alligators out. He served as a Senator, was elected by the people, ergo he is President. What's the problem? It seems there is a big problem! He is the son of an immigrant father from Kenya (big deal) and his mother was an American citizens who ancestry includes many of the founding fathers of this country, or at least progenitures amongst the elite in USA/America! Since when do service people get involved in politics? Do it on your own time! If you hate the service, do no waste your time resign and spend your own time protesting this given right as a US citizen! semper fi |
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7 day suspension by Dave_M July 6, 2009 New Member |
Im not spreading anything that wasnt already out there...I wanted to know for sure the exact facts...so far that hasnt been produced to the satisfaction of many..the so called...vault birth certificate...you see I find it odd that a man running for president wouldnt have had that already done..to me that should have been the way it was...I dont know for sure if that was the case...the reason I say that is because the liberals were looking for someone ..anyone to run that would win the election ...and with bill clinton...you see that is my example...well, all his evil doings were shoved under and rug and he even persisted in doing these things while in office and the liberals lied about it and he lied about it..they will do anything to promote thier agenda...the president is a pawn of that agenda...he is the figurehead for it...more so than a conservative president...the conservative president kind of does what he feels he wants to do...like president bush..he didnt always do what i wanted..as im a conservative....esp with the border control issue...so...Im not throwing stones...Im wondering what is up with that..as with bill there was nothing up...but then there really was...the squeeze was on and it had to be found out...we the american people are the last to know...and then one day we hear well, he has been president now for 3 or 4 yrs and he wasnt american born and so that changes everything..anyone can be president now....just move to our country and you can be...barrack is a nice guy...Im not throwing stones as I said before...but I know that even mice guys can hide things...or the party makes them...so its tme to fess up...if it is so..otherwise let dead dogs lie...pardon the pun...
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