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Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

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The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

The failure of the Obama campaign to do so, and its willingness instead to put up an invalid, uncertified image -- what now appears to be a crude forgery -- raises the dramatic question of why the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate might have to hide.

Source

Maybe...you don't suppose...



Could she actually rise from the political grave Obama thought he'd sealed her in?

haha so it is a fake....

Only the staunchest Obama supporters would try to swallow that fraudulent birth certificate.

I'm not against or dislike Obama, I just don't think he is qualified to lead the most powerful nation on the planet.

Grasping at straws...without a link to verify, you could say McCains is a fake also..

I'm not sure what the point of this is supposed to be. Are you trying to say that Obama isn't a US citizen? I think it's pretty clear that he is a US citizen.

I guess I'm just not understanding why you want to see his birth certificate so badly.

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Originally posted by Tinukedaya:
I'm not sure what the point of this is supposed to be. Are you trying to say that Obama isn't a US citizen? I think it's pretty clear that he is a US citizen.

I guess I'm just not understanding why you want to see his birth certificate so badly.

I believe him to be a citizen and didnt care about the issue. But I do care that his people would submit a fake document to the media to prove he is a citizen. Thats my issue.

What was the thinking? 'Ok guys we know he was born here, but lets submit a doctored certificate to prove it'

The Israeli Insider is the house organ of the Israeli Likud party, which has a definite ax to grind.

THey seem to be going on what the Daily Kos had to say......

Perhaps this thread would be better suited for the Conspiracy forum?

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
The Israeli Insider is the house organ of the Israeli Likud party, which has a definite ax to grind.

THey seem to be going on what the Daily Kos had to say......

Perhaps this thread would be better suited for the Conspiracy forum?

I agree....the moment that the Huffington Post is not looked at as a credible source.

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Originally posted by hooah71:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
The Israeli Insider is the house organ of the Israeli Likud party, which has a definite ax to grind.

THey seem to be going on what the Daily Kos had to say......

Perhaps this thread would be better suited for the Conspiracy forum?

I agree....the moment that the Huffington Post is not looked at as a credible source.

If you choose to regard the Huff Post as a creditable source that is your affair.

I don't regard any blog as a provider of news of record.

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Originally posted by Kegler300:

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Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

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The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

The failure of the Obama campaign to do so, and its willingness instead to put up an invalid, uncertified image -- what now appears to be a crude forgery -- raises the dramatic question of why the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate might have to hide.

Source

So your source is a web-site viewed by 10,000 people in Israel, and if you look at the related stories on that site about Obama, only an idiot would not conclude this site is strongly anti-Obama.

My guess is you got the link to IsraeliInsider from Freaker RepubliKKK.

Yawn!!!!!

Tell you what. You keep "fretting" about scoring that one knock-out punch that will prove Obama was the 20th Hi-jacker.

Obama will continue to speak about and fight for the issues that are important to the American people.

Then we'll see what happens in November.

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Originally posted by WhoFreak:
Obama was the 20th Hi-jacker.

I knew it!!!

This is just getting insane at this point.

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:

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Originally posted by hooah71:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
The Israeli Insider is the house organ of the Israeli Likud party, which has a definite ax to grind.

THey seem to be going on what the Daily Kos had to say......

Perhaps this thread would be better suited for the Conspiracy forum?

I agree....the moment that the Huffington Post is not looked at as a credible source.

If you choose to regard the Huff Post as a creditable source that is your affair.

I don't regard any blog as a provider of news of record.

We are in agreement then, but there are plenty of people on this site who do hold that site as credible, even more credible than say Fox News.

During WWII, and still today, we got all of our information from the BBC about how the war was going. Today the Israeli press seems to be spot on in any investigation that is done. Why do these two have relevence to me? I'm not Hebrew nor am I British, but these two news sources seem to get to the heart of issues that the US press is too chicken shmit to do. Hawaii is not the only state to require that a copy of an official document have an embossed seal of that state on it. I have copies of my DD214 and they are embossed. The question was asked here a while back. Where is the state seal embossed at by the notary? Most of us saw that thread and the seal is nowhere to be found! A laser copy mark is there but that doesn't certify it legally. How much did the Blowbama campaign pay for the certificate? Enquiring minds want to know.

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Originally posted by seawolffortwayne:
During WWII, and still today, we got all of our information from the BBC about how the war was going. Today the Israeli press seems to be spot on in any investigation that is done. Why do these two have relevence to me? I'm not Hebrew nor am I British, but these two news sources seem to get to the heart of issues that the US press is too chicken shmit to do. Hawaii is not the only state to require that a copy of an official document have an embossed seal of that state on it. I have copies of my DD214 and they are embossed. The question was asked here a while back. Where is the state seal embossed at by the notary? Most of us saw that thread and the seal is nowhere to be found! A laser copy mark is there but that doesn't certify it legally. How much did the Blowbama campaign pay for the certificate? Enquiring minds want to know.

Your avatar says all we need to know about any credibility you have, about any issue regarding Senator Obama.

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Originally posted by pastorel:
Grasping at straws...without a link to verify, you could say McCains is a fake also..

No, McCain's is real. Here's a pic...

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Originally posted by WhoFreak:

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Originally posted by seawolffortwayne:
During WWII, and still today, we got all of our information from the BBC about how the war was going. Today the Israeli press seems to be spot on in any investigation that is done. Why do these two have relevence to me? I'm not Hebrew nor am I British, but these two news sources seem to get to the heart of issues that the US press is too chicken shmit to do. Hawaii is not the only state to require that a copy of an official document have an embossed seal of that state on it. I have copies of my DD214 and they are embossed. The question was asked here a while back. Where is the state seal embossed at by the notary? Most of us saw that thread and the seal is nowhere to be found! A laser copy mark is there but that doesn't certify it legally. How much did the Blowbama campaign pay for the certificate? Enquiring minds want to know.

Your avatar says all we need to know about any credibility you have, about any issue regarding Senator Obama.

Yet your screen name gives YOU crdibility? At least my avatar has some aspect of Blowbamas attitude towards terrorists.

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Originally posted by WhoFreak:

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Originally posted by seawolffortwayne:
During WWII, and still today, we got all of our information from the BBC about how the war was going. Today the Israeli press seems to be spot on in any investigation that is done. Why do these two have relevence to me? I'm not Hebrew nor am I British, but these two news sources seem to get to the heart of issues that the US press is too chicken shmit to do. Hawaii is not the only state to require that a copy of an official document have an embossed seal of that state on it. I have copies of my DD214 and they are embossed. The question was asked here a while back. Where is the state seal embossed at by the notary? Most of us saw that thread and the seal is nowhere to be found! A laser copy mark is there but that doesn't certify it legally. How much did the Blowbama campaign pay for the certificate? Enquiring minds want to know.

Your avatar says all we need to know about any credibility you have, about any issue regarding Senator Obama.

As well as your actions towards McCain. So let me introduce you to someone.

Anyone that thinks McCain is a fake needs to have their head examined and then discarded

Using that same Photobucket link:

http://photobucket.com/image/birth%20certificate%20obam..._Certificate.jpg?o=4

Click on the image to enlarge it and look at it very closely. Pay particular attention to the last line of the certificate (the one that says "Date Filed by Registrar).

As your eyes pan to the right, and if you have a decent monitor, you will see a reversed date stamp. Looks as though the document was produced and/or stamped sometime in 2007. Maybe that's stamp that is put on the reverse of this form, which is an electronic form that is likely generated in lieu of original, which, these days, won't be given to someone who was born 47 years ago.

I'm willing to bet that if you wrote the vital records department of the state in which you were born, you'd get a similar document these days.

I'd like to see where someone found that the Obama camp claimed that this was the original birth certificate. Did they do that?

You guys should start a separate thread called "Obamaphobia" and keep the rest of the board clear.