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Basic Training |
How in heavens's name could anyone belief that this man has America's best interest in mind?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feIraieervY&feature=email “Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.” – Michael Rivero |
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No one thats thinking logically can possible deny that a complete investigation is not warranted. No one should ever compromise thier beliefs or surrender thier values. What to do about it as an individual is limited. But what you are doing is a step in the right direction that should be followed up with daily letters demanding answers by your elected officials and local newspapers. You may not stop them but you sure as hell will slow the process down till they get the message and others wake up to the possibilities and join in demanding answers. Heres a blog where the gloves are off. the nations divided and people are frustrated. http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;...le=118533;title=APFN |
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I see the violin but I cant make out the song? Is that Beautiful Dreamer, or old ang sine? |
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WOW! If the good people at Bradley Infotainment say Cheney was behind 9/11 it must be true!! After all, these people have all the answers, including:all the secrets of the universe, including: the meaning of life, the ability to fold space and time, the cures for all diseases, the ability to create world peace, and the ability to rock like a hurricane! So.... Are you using all of your mental abilities? Here at Bradley Infotainment, we specialize in products designed to help you unlock your fullest potential, and to become the person you have always wanted to be: *Smart, happy, healthy, and the life of the party! Don't be afraid! Just have a little faith in yourself, and begin your great adventure! Bradley Infotainment is here... http://bradleyinfotainment.com/ Hitler used to say people are more willing to believe a large lie than a small one. The folks at Bradly must subscribe to that belief because they're spinning some whoppers!!  |
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Basic Training |
If you go to youtube and do a search for Norman Mineta 911 you can find a video in which Maneta(former Transportation Secretary) recounts Cheney giving the order to shoot down flight 93. Mineta was in a bunker with Cheney on 911. Mineta got a bit confused though in his testimony thinking he was referring to the incoming Pentagon "plane" when in fact he referenced the sequence of events just prior to 93's shootdown.
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god how can anyone in their right mind believe these 9\11 conspiracy crap... talk about guilable people... man...oh well the world laughs their butts off at them anyways..
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It's because there are people inhabiting this earth who are so hell-bent on their own abject paranoia; that they will concoct the most implausible stories that are so far-fetched and out of this world...they believe their own fairy tales. Even when irrefutable proof is presented to debunk their stories, these 'tin-hat story tellers' refuse to accept reality. There are a select few of these 'tin-foilers' onsite...they believe that the moon is made of green cheese. |
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The only laughable part is that people like yourself and OL keep repeating this crap about irrefutable proof and yet have provided nothing But your opposite opinions. Repeat nothing has been proven Not one dammed thing. There hasnt even been an investigation so where the proof? And not some opinion from wanna bee scientists and such. Hard proof. Smoke and mirrors is all Ive seen in the last 7 years. |
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post this again for the 100th time...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html you know john try to clink the link and reading what it says.... there is 9 pages try reading it you might learn a thing or two.. |
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John...no 'smoke or mirrors' to what I've got to say right now. I, and, no doubt, many others onsite, lost friends and acquaintenances in either NYC, The Pentagon, or PA, on that dreadful day. The investigations that were concluded in NYC and DC that were carried out were conducted by some of THE most highly trained and experioenced people available at the time. My area of expertise is Fire Safety and Fire Prevention...a mere 12 years of experience...I'm a 'rookie' compared to others. Not counting time as an off-duty Volunteer Fire Fighter during my time in service, as well as post-militery, and at one particular out of CONUS base as a Fire Fighter. The company I am employed with has 40 years of experience...and deals DAILY with commercial, residential and industrial sites. That means, City, County, Federal and State, within the states of Arizona and New Mexico. The final investigations' conclusions stated what caused the collapse of the towers, and the damage to the Pentagon...and, I might say, an extensive investigation was concluded. To the vast majority of those involved, these findings were accepted as fact...and accepted as such. Your opening statement is a direct and deliberate insult and /demeaning and denegrating attitude to those who worked hard during the course of these investigations. In fact, by the tone of your posting, as well as past postings you made on the same topic, clearly show your full-blown ignorance of the material clearly presented AS FACT, presented by some of the most reliable and accurate links provided. Because of your attitude, as shown, you have been on my schidt list for a long time...and that list is extremely small and hard to achieve. You have justly earned the utter contempt as well as disrespect of many people on this site...your posting justifies it so. |
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Your lists and opinions mean little to nothing to me since Im not posting here to win freinds and influence people. I post here to awaken those who have taken the positition that the seriously flawed and incomplete self investigative official document,is sufficient proof that no other possibility exists. You speak of highly credible investigators? Like Who? what you produce personally is opinion based on limited personal experience hardly considered expert. Everyone Has an opinion but the proof lies in the Investigation we are expected to believe. A document so flawed that many committee members resigned and disagree with. The commission was put together quickly, given a time limit and cherry picked what was to be admissable. More was left out than was included. Testimony and criticle evidence. Anything they couldnt answer they didnt include. Thats why there are so many questions. They didnt even include Bldg #7 and till this day admitt they have no Idea why it collapsed. If thats what you call irrefutable proof,then what can I say. I might ask what it is your so afraid of with a new impartial investigation but I already know that answer. So please spare the BS about your little book, your opinions and distain, save it for someone who cares. |
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dude you are delusional.... thats about as nice as i can get... get some help for that paranoia you have....
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Experienced Member |
Ahhh Another opinion, Fact Is whats required if you want to debate. No one cares what you THINK, or your opinion it what you can prove. Ive provided A few facts and the only response has been Lame opinions, little black books, lack of respect threats, Who gives a Rats Azz what you think. If I wanted your opinions Id give them to you. Provide Facts. Here Ill start, Fact 1, non of us here know what happened on 9/11. Fact 2, The 9/11 report was a seriously flawed incomplete document. Fact 3, Bldg #7 was never even mentioned in the report, Fact 4, Marvin Bushs name never once appeared in the report. Fact 5, not one drop of DNA evidence was found from any passengers of all 4 airliners. So start with these 5 Facts When you can answer these questions well go on to others. But you cant because there are no available answers yet other than speculation and opinions. |
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Basic Training |
Marvin Bush? jesus dude, your really reaching with that. It reall makes me wonder why some people here think the Bushes are the devil, waht warped twisted things happened to those people
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SUSPENDED 30 DAYS 11 AUG 08 NEMESIS |
Nothing warped or twisted happened to anybody who doesn’t buy the story that a star appeared in the East at the moment of Bush’s birth. You might try actually researching the Bush family before you rock up with such an attitude, me ole mucker. If you have that opinion because you can’t be arsed to do the research, or you have problems understanding the long words, then you’re excused and we’ll just ignore you. If, on the other hand, you still stand to that opinion after delving into the highly dubious past of the Bush family, well, then the question has to be asked about exactly who’s warped and twisted.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk you up as averagely intelligent. So I appeal to your average intelligence and ask you to actually present this “irrefutable proof” that has obviously convinced you of its worth. The incoherent, jumbled nonsense presented as proof hitherto debunks nothing, but says an awful lot about certain people and their motivation. Let’s progress to “reality”, shall we? The reality is that all you’re voicing is an (your personal) opinion. You have a perfect right to do that and just as much right to be totally convinced of it. However, it does smack more than a little of selfish arrogance to maintain that just because you were persuaded by it, others should accept what is, essentially, your personal opinion as gospel. Furthermore, to babble on about the “tin-foilers”, the moon and green cheese etc, does rather give the game away, both with regard to your true intentions and to the obviously normal level at which you discuss. Summary: you have no proof at all for your thesis, and I have none for mine. The logical thing to do in such a case would be to make ALL the evidence in the case available so that it can be openly discussed on its merits. Instead, the only “evidence” presented so far has been the trickle of information that supports the official version. I, too, call for a new, impartial and complete investigation of the whole issue. MsG |
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Basic Training |
Sorry paddy boy, could really care less what you think. I suppose the old Bush grandfather is a Nazi is what your inferring, thoroughly discreidted by the way. |
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True.
So, do you have anything to prove any of this? Or is it all just your opinion? Have you done ANY investigation into any of these claims? Or are you just accepting, hook, line and sinker, all the garbage your conspiracy theory web sites feed you? The reason I ask is because outlaws93's post / link clearly answer your question about Bldg #7, yet you seem completely ignorant of the facts...? This is exactly what makes you and the others loons and conspiracy theorists - you are so quick to believe random websites created by who knows who, and all of their rantings, yet when provided with real facts, you ignore them and blindly parrot disproved "facts"... |
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SUSPENDED 30 DAYS 11 AUG 08 NEMESIS |
What an interesting assertion! So what you’re actually saying is that official US gobment documents detailing all this are wrong? That they’ve been discredited? Or was that just your cop-out because you’ve suddenly realised you’re way out of your depth intellectually? MsG |
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