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Can i get out of the army national guard if i have not been to BCT yet?

Well i decided i wanted to go to college first then Join but i alrdy signed but have not left to basic ye. Is there anything i can do?
 
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In the past, 5 years ago, it was possible. I helped someone out that was misslead by the recruiter. All it took was a DD4187 sent to the unit commander from the recruiter. Things being what they are today, it may not be so easy. First you should really think/discuss the choices you are making, including breaking the contract. You need to know what breaking that contract is going to mean to you. Your recruiter may or may not help you. You should get yourself prepared to go even if you are going to try and get out. If you do go in, make the best of it, don't fight it. Your time will go faster and you will be happier. Look for ways the military can help you. Most of all, do not get yourself a dishonorable discharge, do not go awol. It only brings more trouble. Good Luck
 
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In the past, 5 years ago, it was possible. I helped someone out that was misslead by the recruiter.
Well, I rarely have sympathy for soldiers who say they were misled by a recruiter. That is why you look at the paperwork and make sure you read on the regs before you go. I am sure there are special case, but being misled by a recruiter is the classic case.
 
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Sounds like a rumour to me.
 
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Well.........I guess you could always tell them that you are gay! Eek Eek
 
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Unless things have changed in the last 5 years, until you ship off, you are not "in" yet.

At MEPS, you sign your final contract and you take your final oath. After that, you belong to the gov't, but before then, you are under no legal obligation.

But, like I said, that was 5 years ago. I know that doesn't seem like long, but a lot of things have changed in recruiting since then.
 
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That would be true for active duty but with the guard your in once you swear in at meps because than you start drilling and getting paid.
 
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yes you can get out. in 2006 when i joined i was thinking the same thing. I didnt ship when i was suppose to and came to my recruiter a month later. Had to fill out some new paperwork (did not have to swear in again). and then i left. There is no dishonorable discharges if you do not ship out to training. Save yourself the trouble and do not go. I followed through and went and i really wish i would have waited. hope this helps you.
 
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Why not go to BCT, let the guard pay for your college, hit OCS and make a career of it?

Do a nut check, fulfill your committment that YOU started and let it work for you.

So what if you get deployed... you may see places on this earth that without the military you would have never seen.
 
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OH, I see, NC NG... don't want to make the trip to Iraq?
 
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Dude, grabs your nuts, and march on. You can do it, and if you complete BCT and AIT before you start school the guard will pay for it. then you get the best of both worlds, school and the army.

You already made the choice to join. Do yourself a favor and fulfill your commitment.
 
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Was discharged from navy dep for havin acne on my ship date, but now i was cleared and want to go guard. Is it possible to commit myself to the guard before i go to MEPS?
 
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You will have to be found qualified at MEPS before you can swear in and become a member of the Guard.
 
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Why not go to BCT, let the guard pay for your college, hit OCS and make a career of it?


Thats one of the stupidest reasons Ive heard for real, no offense. But thats the amazing advantages of being in the Guard is that you CAN go to college and be in the military, PLUS they pay for your schooling.

Just go to BCT and get it over with serve your country then come back and use the guard with its benefits to go to college!

Dont get out, thats retarded at this point. You can always have college there, not the military or the ability to be in. Take the oppurtunity and use it to your advantage.

You wanna hear a real story I am currently in college and have been there for 4 yrs. Last yr, I decided this was the time in my life to join so I did and went to BCT missing two terms, but it was well worth it cause now Im back and ready to graduate as a commissioned officer, hoping and aspiring to start the ROTC/ Gold program in Fall! Now they pay for my schooling and the college works REAL well with military!!
 
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I had the exact same question, I dont leave for training until February, and it seems like every week im finding something out that either my recruiter isnt telling me or is complete different from what she is saying. And then I was doing more research and Im debating on going. When I do call my recruiter and ask her about what I just had found out she laughs and says oh yea thats true or has to ask someone else. Just be honest If I didnt have all these pop up surprises I would probably still be excited to go, but now I just feel like im being lied to.
 
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Thats why we are here to answer any questions or "surpises" or doubts you might have.

Like what "surprises" or questions might we here at mil.com answer...just let us know.
 
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Being in the military requires some "sacrafice" up front. You have to pay your dues. While basic and AIT are frustrating and difficult at times, it will be the most memorable part of your life. 10 years from now, tell me what 20 weeks of your life were like during your senior year of high school. Then tell me what the 20 weeks were like during BT and AIT. I was in the guard for 9 years, used the gi bill, state/fed tuition assistance, student loan repayment and now have a BAA and a Masters degree. Quit if you want, we don't need more weaklings but if you put your best effort in, it is the experience of a lifetime.
 
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Applause Well said weasel! Well said.

I totally agree. I wish i was with my DS still, man I miss them....weird never thought Id say that but its so true!
 
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Being in the military requires some "sacrafice" up front. You have to pay your dues. While basic and AIT are frustrating and difficult at times, it will be the most memorable part of your life. 10 years from now, tell me what 20 weeks of your life were like during your senior year of high school. Then tell me what the 20 weeks were like during BT and AIT. I was in the guard for 9 years, used the gi bill, state/fed tuition assistance, student loan repayment and now have a BAA and a Masters degree. Quit if you want, we don't need more weaklings but if you put your best effort in, it is the experience of a lifetime.


True that!

In my case, I was injured and Medically Dis'd but I would have been retiring in 2007 if I had stayed in and I would also have gone to Office School which I being directed to do at my Unit.

The Big Lie that has been out there is the ARNG do not go to War. Hell, My Great Uncle told me that all of the South Dakota ARNG Units were deployed in WWII. All my Great Uncles and Grandather were in WWII. But my youngest Great Uncle was an the ARNG and he was activatd to go to Korea. A SGT at my ARNG Unit told me that he had been activated in Vietnam.

But Army National Guard do a lot more than that. We do National Emergencies too. I am proud to have served my country and have been a member of the ARNG. Look up the History:

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The National Guard, the oldest component of the Armed Forces of the United States and one of the nation's longest-enduring institutions, celebrated its 370th birthday on December 13, 2006. The National Guard traces its history back to the earliest English colonies in North America. Responsible for their own defense, the colonists drew on English military tradition and organized their able-bodied male citizens into militias.
Army National Guard
 
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