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2–18. Enlistment pay grades for personnel without prior service
This paragraph applies to DEP, DTP, or ARNG applicants.
a. The following explains who may enlist and when and at what pay grade. An applicant who—
(1) Has no qualifications for advancement to pay grade higher than PV1 may enlist at any time.
(2) Has completed 1 or 2 years of Junior ROTC (JROTC) or a National Defense Cadet Corps (NDCC) Program may
enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(3) Has completed 3 or more years of JROTC or a NDCC Program may enlist at any time at pay grade private first
class (PFC).
(4) Has completed 1 year of Senior ROTC (SROTC) may enlist at any time at pay grade PFC.
(5) Has attended any U.S. military service academy or USAMAPS for 179 days or fewer may enlist at any time at
pay grade PV2 or at grade determined by amount of college credit completed, whichever is greater.
(6) Has successfully completed 24 or more classroom semester hours (36 or more quarter hours) at an accredited
degree granting college or university list in the AIPE or NACES (foreign transcripts must be evaluated according to
para 2–7f and 2–20) may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(7) Has successfully completed 48 or more classroom semester hours (72 or more quarter hours) (without a 4-year
degree) at an accredited degree granting college or university listed in the AIPE (foreign transcripts must be evaluated
according to para 2–7f and 2–20) may enlist at any time at pay grade PFC. Applicants with an associate degree will be
enlisted at pay grade PFC without regard to the number of semester or quarter hours completed.
(8) Has successfully completed 2 or more academic years of a postsecondary vocational-technical school and has
received a certificate of training attesting to successful completion of the course may enlist at any time at pay grade
PFC. The school must be listed in the AIPE (see para 2–20).
(9) Has successfully completed a degree-producing college program of 4 years duration and the college or university
is listed in the AIPE and has been awarded a bachelor degree or higher (foreign degrees and transcripts must be
evaluated according to para 2–7f) may enlist at any time at pay grade specialist (SPC). Advanced promotion is
authorized if college or university provides a letter stating the applicant has met all requirements for a degree, but it
will not be awarded until commencement ceremony.
(10) Has completed all phase II requirements of the Air Force Civil Air Patrol and has been awarded the Billy
Mitchell Award may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(11) Has taken part in the Naval Sea Cadet Corps (NSCC) and has been awarded NSC 19A (record of cadet
advancement) may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(12) Has been awarded the Boy Scout Eagle certificate as a member of the Boy Scouts of America (Form 58–708)
or the Quartermaster Award Certificate may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(13) Has earned the Girl Scout Gold award certificate as a member of the Girl Scouts of America may enlist at any
time at pay grade E–2.
(14) Has completed Army pre-Basic Training task list as a member of DEP/DTP may enlist at any time at pay grade
PV2.
(15) Is qualified under the Army Civilian Acquired Skills Program may enlist at any time at pay grade SPC.
(16) Lacks documentation required for advanced promotion under this paragraph at time of enlistment, they may
submit supporting documents to the personnel officer within 6 months of enlistment. Documents must be original,
certified, or evaluated as required.
(a) College credit or course completion (includes JROTC/ROTC) must have occurred prior to the date of enlistment
in the RA or entry in IADT for USAR or ARNG.
(b) Only colleges and universities listed in the AIPE, NACES, or foreign transcripts evaluated according to
paragraph 2–7f, may be used. This requirement is only used for advanced promotion under this paragraph and does not
affect or change the guidance for promotion boards with respect to education points, which are given or verified via
other publications. However, no other education evaluation publication will be used to qualify under this regulation.
(c) Effective date and date of rank for Soldiers who lacked documentation at time of enlistment will be the effective
date of the promotion by the unit commander. No retroactive adjustment is authorized and each applicant will be
advised that failure to produce documents before enlistment or after time frames above will cause them to forfeit
entitlement to this incentive. The promotion will be for the grade the Soldier is qualified for at the time of enlistment.
(d) Applicants who have college credit, but owe the college/university money and the school will not release official
transcripts until all debts are cleared, must have a letter from the school official stating number of credits earned and
the reason official transcripts are unavailable.
(e) Each applicant who claims, but cannot substantiate, qualification for higher enlistment grade will be required to
acknowledge that they have read and understand this rule and the time frames established. An applicant or enlistee will
acknowledge this in the remarks section of DD Form 1966. Unit commanders for DTP, upon verification that a Soldier
is authorized the advance promotion under this paragraph, will promote the Soldier, citing this paragraph as the
authority. Effective date and date of rank will be the date the commander authorizes the promotion.
b. The referral program provides incentive for increased pay. Verification will be the responsibility of HQ,
USAREC for all referrals. Only referrals received and verified prior to the date of enlistment in the RA or USAR will
affect the enlistment grade. Any applicant participating in the Army Referral Program who refers—
(1) One qualified NPS, Glossary NPS, or PS applicant who enlists into the DEP, RA, ARNG, or USAR on or before
the date the applicant enters the RA or IADT for USAR or ARNG, may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
(2) Two or more qualified NPS, Glossary NPS, or PS applicants (any combination) who enlist into the DEP, RA,
ARNG, or USAR on or before the date the applicant enters the RA or IADT for USAR or ARNG, may enlist at any
time at pay grade PFC.
(3) One qualified registered nurse who applies for the Army Nurse Corps AD or USAR, and HQ, USAREC accepts
the application on or before the applicant enters the RA or IADT, may enlist at any time at pay grade PV2.
c. The applicant may enlist at pay grade PFC if they meet any 2 requirements in paragraph 2–18a(2), (5), (6), (10),
(11), (12), (13), or (14), or 2–18b(1) or (3). (For example, applicant has 24 semester hrs and provides one referral that
enlist= PFC; this example combines 2–18a(6) and 2–18b(1)).

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Originally posted by reliv007:
Hi, my name is Andrew and I am wondering what the benefits are for being an Eagle Scout when enlisting in the reserves? I have heard that I would already be promoted before I left basic? Is that true?

Thanks in advance. I am meeting with a recruiter today so I will ask him as well.

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Originally posted by ErichG2:
It's still enlist at E2 rank and it's in the regulation at the top of this Forum AR 601-210.

National Guard also had a official deal with the Boy Scouts, BTW. They could shoot at the range in the basement of our Armory in 1982-83 and qualify for the Marksmanship badges under the supervision of the National Guard.

Not sure if that arrangement still exists or if it was just a Wisconsin thing.

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Originally posted by Grumpy_1SG:
Well Damn, I missed out on the guns... All I did in the scouts was hike, camp, fish, tie knots, and make wallets...

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Originally posted by ErichG2:

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Originally posted by Grumpy_1SG:
Well Damn, I missed out on the guns... All I did in the scouts was hike, camp, fish, tie knots, and make wallets...

They had .22's not sure where they came from but they did not use the M16.

We had a .22 bolt adapter for the M16 so we could use the basement range. My memory could be going there as well but I seem to remember shooting with that kind of configuration with the M16.

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Originally posted by runfuret:
I wouldnt mention it at BCT or your unit at least. We had a guy who was an eagle scout. He was constantly picked on. I felt sorry for the guy.

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Originally posted by Grumpy_1SG:

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Originally posted by runfuret:
I wouldnt mention it at BCT or your unit at least. We had a guy who was an eagle scout. He was constantly picked on. I felt sorry for the guy.

That's a damn shame, how can people make fun of someone who lives by this?

"On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight."

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Originally posted by reliv007:
not nice. Don't be a grunt.