AR 670-1 covers a lot of it. We were given guidance by the CoC also. For instance we were not allowed to be in any kind of drinking establishment in any kind of military uniform. We were also told that once the duty day was over we were not to be seen off post in a military uniform unless it was absolutely necessary (ie picking up the kids from school, going grocery shopping if you didn't have time to go home and change etc). As far as traveling we were advised to not travel in a military uniform as it would make us targets for terrorists supposedly. Sometimes it's unavoidable though. I traveled in my ACUs when I went on leave from Iraq, and on my way back. Thats when you will usually see small groups of Soldiers in uniform.
It's normally okay and sometimes encouraged for Soldiers to wear their uniforms in transit. Many of the ones you see in airports are enroute to and from theater. The Class A folks are probably in TRADOC still or on a rare occassion escorting a fallen Soldier.
However, being at a bar in uniform is generally frowned upon unless under certain circumstances (i.e on post, unit function). As a repesentative of the Armed Forces, everything you do in uniform in the public eye is a reflection on the your brothers and sister in arms as well.
As Runfuret said, it's usually unit/post SOP about wearing uniforms off-post/off-duty.
Around Ft. Bragg, you will see soldiers of every rank wearing ACUs everywhere at almost every hour of the day or night.
Here at Ft. Drum, you don't see too many soldiers wearing ACUs off post, although it happens.
Personally, when I am on leave or off-duty, I don't WANT to wear my uniform. I wear it enough during the duty day, and since the weather here is BUTT-A5S COLD, I have a lot to wear and take off everytime I enter the hangar or building, then put it back on when I leave the building. In short, it's a pain in the a5s!
As for traveling in uniform... "back in the day" most soldiers traveled in Class As. Nowadays, it's totally impractical to wear that much metal through the airport. When I was in BCT, we were ordered to wear ACUs while in-transit to AIT. We were told that it was a good recruiting ad, and that it reminded civilians that we are a nation at war. ACUs are also a lot easier to wear through the airport security metal detectors. We were also ushered to the front of the security line at ATL since we were in uniform.
Originally posted by runfuret: The benifits of being in uniform at the airport cannot be understated. My simple @ss got bumped up to first class on the flight home on leave because I was in ACUs. Good times right there...
I tried to BUY an upgrade to Business Class on AirTran while enroute to AIT. The gal at the gate took my card, tapped at her keyboard for a moment, printed me a new boarding pass, handed me back my card and said that she had upgraded me for free. Boy was I pleased!
Does anyone know if they changed the regs on traveling first class while in uniform?
IN Dec '06 a JAG officer told me it was not authorized to travel in first class while in uniform, even if it's a free upgrade. Gave the appearnace of the government not spending Joe Taxpayers money wisely, or something like that.
Just a historical note on this as well this is a Airline tradition that goes back to the Vietnam War. American Airlines has been doing free upgrades since the Vietnam War for times of war when troops are traveling to or from wartime duty or wartime training. Some airlines do it in peacetime if your a civilian newlywed on the way to your honeymoon.
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You'll see Soldiers in uniform at restaurants during chow throwing back a beer with their lunch. I know I've done it and no one is going to tell me otherwise, especially when I'm with my wife. Now going to a bar in ACUs is a whole nother story. I know that's a no-no. However, I've heard Class A's at a bar is okay, but I've never seen it in writing.
I don't know if this is an Army wide thing, or if it was just my local CoC. But we were not allowed to have any alcohol during the duty day. That includes chow breaks. Perhaps it is just a symptom of the unit I was brought up in, but you wouldnt catch me dead drinking in any uniform unless it was some sort of official function, or otherwise sanctioned event.
I can tell you the Air Force rules for when I was in. After basic you had to fly on public planes in dress blues (this was in 1999, it might have changed). Once you're at your base you can wear blues wherever you want on or off base as long as you're not doing something stupid. BDU's were pretty much only for on-base, and maybe a quick trip to the Wal-Mart, but it was kinda frowned on. When I flew overseas to the desert on public planes, it was all civies.
ALARACT dated 218/2005 amended Army Regulation 670-1 to encourage Soldiers to wear their combat uniforms when taking commercial transportation, including air travel. Prior to that message, it was prohibited under AR 670-1 paragraph 1-10, which said it could only be worn if the entire flight was military and leaving from a military controlled area. I remember attending airborne school in the early 90s and having to wear a class B uniform on the plane.
Originally posted by bennyblair: ALARACT dated 218/2005 amended Army Regulation 670-1 to encourage Soldiers to wear their combat uniforms when taking commercial transportation, including air travel. Prior to that message, it was prohibited under AR 670-1 paragraph 1-10, which said it could only be worn if the entire flight was military and leaving from a military controlled area. I remember attending airborne school in the early 90s and having to wear a class B uniform on the plane.
I stopped wearing ACUs during flights years ago. Too much attention. I do however carry my ACU backpack - gets me upgraded to first class quite often.