This is a place where any veteran or servicemember may discuss issues with PTSD or any other service-related item.

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How would you like this mini-forum to operate?

Choices:
Open discussion
Limited to certain services
By region
By conflict

 

How about some participation here? We have a good opportunity to set up some very informative group discussions on www.military.com.

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Thanks for the link.

Old,

Glad you opened this forum. Maybe folks will come by and input something....anything.

I know for myself, writing has been my best venting. It doesn't matter to me if someone reads it or not, because when I write, it's as if I'm writing to a particular person.

I even rarely go back and read what I wrote. LMAO.

I did some research some time back and found correlations between education and PTSD. The stats, dating back to WWI, showed what I believe to be a direct correlation between education and combat fatigue (different than PTSD). However, I also found a reverse correlation between later PTSD and education. The more education, the more likely to have PTSD, than someone with lesser educations.

BS? Well, does anyone ever consider why the education requirements for even entering service now is higher than during Vietnam, Korea and the other WW's? Oh, it's because the equipment is much more sophisticated, you might say. Oh, yeah? Like being a grunt requires more eductation that it did 50 years ago?

My opinion is no. The government doesn't do things without a reason, in most cases. Increasing the educational requirements is one of those, I believe. If there is a correlation, as I've stated, between less combat fatique when there's more education, do you think it's not smart to have more educated soldiers to help avoid combat fatigue (shell shock)?

Of course, PTSD isn't quite that simple. Having it or not having it is based on the individual and/or his circumstances. However, there has been a documented rise of PTSD incidents ever since statistics have been around....whether it was called PTSD or not. Personally, I think that we're seeing more incidents of PTSD now than ever before....and, guess what? There's more education.

Next. There are certainly various forms of PTSD, from mild to cannot function. Many of those I interviewed, myself one of them, showed mild forms of PTSD. They didn't have sweats, nightmares, could function, most held jobs, etc. However, my group was limited to Viet Vets, pilots all of them, and all continued in the military (Guard/Reserve). I won't go into it here, but there is a reason, I believe, why we demonstrated mild PTSD, rather than full blown debilitating PTSD.

We should continue this forum and share what our problems are, how combat or just being in a combat environment affected us, and what we may or may not be doing about it.

I warned my nephews, both of whom have gone to IRAQ, on the possible problems they might encounter when they returned. They looked at me with "deer in the headlights" looks, but the purpose was to warn of impending problems, not to say that they would definitely exist.

Anyway, good to see this forum.

Ronnie

Glad to see that you have had the opportunity to visit here. Come back frequently!

This is a safe place and we want any servicemember or veteran to be able to post here as needed.

"OLD", I LIKE that, let's make it so.

I like the idea of an "OPEN DISCUSSION', but I think it would be more advantageous to have it's own thread for the masses to access...I think...?

REASON: I travel around here often and I've suggested to many of our brothers and sisters to drop by Health and Fitness to help with their problems...not necessarily related to PTSD or other 'health' issues. We just lost 2 brother's from the Navy Construction Battalion (Seabees) thread because of comments made there. Maybe if there had been an OPEN DISCUSSION thread they could easily find they might still be with us. These two where VERY helpful with the 'Newbees" trying to learn about the 'Seabees", it is a tremendous lose to the thread. And you all know these are not the only victims of abusive idiots on here.

As an added FOOTNOTE, the Mods NEED to make it MORE DIFFICULT for those who are here ONLY for purposes of HARASSMENT and posers to have a voice.

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As an added FOOTNOTE, the Mods NEED to make it MORE DIFFICULT for those who are here ONLY for purposes of HARASSMENT and posers to have a voice.

We patrol here often and if/when there is anyone who is disruptive to this forum, they will be G O N E ASAFP.

Bet on it.

J R,

I was referring to the other Mods, specifically on the Navy Seabee thread. I have to jerk their chain every once in awhile to take care of problems. GerryRM3 is the ONLY one there that responds, I don't think any of the others even have the thread turned on.

I KNOW you guys on the PTSD forums are on top of things, that's why I call this place 'MY SANCTUARY' it's safe here.

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that's why I call this place 'MY SANCTUARY' it's safe here.

Glad to hear that Bob. We are here to help in any way that we can.

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Originally posted by OldAFcop:
This is a place where any veteran or servicemember may discuss issues with PTSD or any other service-related item.

Well you mean I can talk about thinks like ptsd issues? Well, ok, I for years suffered from something. I was clinically dead for hours, um it was while serving in the military overseas. I got lot of help from family and community. Lately I got councel from the VA. I suffer from it but live with it. (Sigh)GEE , well that felt good for starters. Many thank u,s
Patrick

Come back often. This is YOUR forum and you are welcome here at any time.

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Originally posted by OldAFcop:
Come back often. This is YOUR forum and you are welcome here at any time.

Thanks I was thinking that talking about it would help me understand or get to know myself better in regards to ptsd. Um, I know what happen but for some reason my thoughts don't go down on page well. I don't feel emotional pain it is more a kind of detachment like it happen to another. It is like my reason tells me I should not be alive but I am. I know I was dead for sure and have all the facts to back up myself in records. My logic keeps saying you should be dead but my reason says your not. It is hard to explain but it makes sense to me. Well, wow, look what I was able to share. Wow, thank you. More than I can relay, thank you. Maybe I can write more later. This helps to read myself on page. Patrick

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Maybe I can write more later.

Feel free to write what you want and visit often.

You are always welcome here.

Maybe there is some benefit in having threads for specific regions or conflicts, and maybe such threads should be instituted at times if veterans with one of those in common ask for it. I cannot vote to make the entire forum that way however. As many of us as there are here, I am sure some of us would be left outside in such a case, and I am equally sure that there is help in knowing others, from other wars etc, face the same thing. For some of us, me included, there is benefit in being able to talk with those from other conflicts/types of stressors/etc etc etc. Startifying the forum out would make those benefits disappear.

So if y'all can, I'd say be open to making those special thrads as needed, and keep the main forum here open.

We have conflict-based forums right here.

Feel free to use them at your discretion.

Thanks for posting.

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Maybe I can write more later.

Feel free to write what you want and visit often.

You are always welcome here.

Thank You, Sir Old, well for the first time I read the article about ASD. I have been thinking for a day or so if that is me a lil. I have been diagnosed by The God Sent VA in Meno Park and Palo Alto. But, I don't want to talk of that. I was diagnosed by many doctors outside the VA too. It was here that I first read about ptsd and asd. I am not going to diagnose myself. I don't like boxing. I understand the complicated diagnosis of the Doctors though. In the end I am sane, Sigh, but the study is on how I got to be from what I experienced. I got lots of help from community and family but the VA IS the CALVARY. Still I am thinking can one be sane and still have ptsd or asd? Am I gonna fit in with society? How? How do I keep myself from sticking out? I only so far feel emotion in Laughter or empathy. The other thing is if my life is threatened I will do as my military trained me. I know right from wrong and morals. I was raised well. I am a man who walks with his God in faith. I love people and animals and nature. HOOOO Well,don't worry I don't expect you to answer me. Ha, I do really appreciate you so much for letting me read myself here. God Blessed me again.
Patrick

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Still I am thinking can one be sane and still have ptsd or asd?

Of course you can be sane and suffer the symptoms of PTSD or ASD. It is not your fault that you or anyone else suffers 'The Monkey.' Press on with the good life and you will find that the better things in your future will in turn help you.

Best of success in learning to better understand the symptoms and manage them as best you can.

Of course we all answer each other here. That's why this board exists; to help one another. That's why we're here.

Best of success in your future and my God be with you. He cares for each and every one of us.

Thanks for your post.

You might want to have a look around some of the other threads. Open Discussion, Living with PTSD, etc.

Go wherever you want to on this forum. It's yours and yours to use. It's our job to work together to help veterans and servicemembers work together.