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Since my vocation allows me to represent many of America's true heroes. I am starting this thread, to bring to the attention of all who served honorably in our Armed Forces, just what some low-lifes will do to make themselves look good. Then backfires upon them to their dismay, being forever branded a true coward.
I hope those with a desire to keep honor for the true heroes will post factual fraud, not opinion that you may disagree with, the validity of an actual award that was approved by military or naval authority.
Remember there are medals (I only have two) and decorations (I have none).

Leading off the list, showing justice is being served:

These are good ones! They got caught.
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MILITARY STOLEN VALOR UPDATE 06: A man who lied during a public meeting about being awarded the nation’s highest military honor pleaded guilty 5 APR to violating the Stolen Valor Act of 2005. Xavier Alvarez, 50, of Pomona, said he served as a Marine and won the Medal of Honor when he was introduced as a newly elected member of a Claremont water board in JUL 07. “I’m a retired Marine of 25 years. I retired in the year 2001. Back in 1987, I was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. I got wounded many times by the same guy. I’m still around,” Alvarez said during the meeting, according to a recording of it. His attorney, Deputy Federal Public Defender Brianna Fuller, argued that his free speech was protected by the First Amendment. Government prosecutors argued that the First Amendment does not protect deliberate falsehoods. His plea with the U.S. Attorney’s Office gives Alvarez the right to appeal the plea based on his right to free speech. Alvarez faces up to one year in federal prison and a $100,000 fine when he is sentenced 21 JUL.

An Oroville CA man has pleaded guilty to falsely representing himself as a decorated military hero from the Vietnam War. Michael Allan Fraser, 62, claimed in an interview with the Oroville Mercury-Register last year that he was awarded two Purple Hearts and two Bronze Stars for combat in Vietnam. He also traveled to Vietnam with war veterans on a mission to “bury the ghosts of the past.” But a Colorado man who helped write the Stolen Valor Act, which was signed into law by President Bush in 2006, noticed problems with Fraser’s daring tale of valor. He looked up Fraser’s record and found that he had served in the military as a veterinarian’s assistant in the Philippines. U.S. Magistrate Judge Edmund F. Brennan sentenced Fraser this week to 100 hours of community service helping veterans and issued a $500 fine.

A Navy Reserve public affairs officer is facing a general court-martial next week for allegedly forging an award citation and pretending to be a lieutenant when he was one rank lower at the time, the Navy said. Lt. Paul J. Pelletier, 42, is charged with five counts of violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice, including failure to obey an order or regulation, making false official statements and going absent without leave. His court-martial is set to begin 13 MAY. According to the charge sheet, Pelletier put himself in for a Joint Service Achievement Medal at some point between 20 JUN and 20 JUL 06 while serving with Multi-National Force in Baghdad. He served at Camp Victory in Iraq for nine months in 2006. The award justification “outlined achievements he had not accomplished,” the sheet said. Around the same time, he wore the rank of lieutenant when he was actually a lieutenant junior grade, the sheet said. He continued to wear the unauthorized rank, the charge sheet stated, even though he had been ordered by a captain to stop.
[Source: AP articles posted 6 & 9 May 08 ++]


Then it gets better!

Fraud update 09

A jury in Virginia found Army veteran Randall Moneymaker "guilty of fabricating his service record and lying about his achievements and combat injuries to scam more than $18,000 in disability benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs." Craig Jacobsen, the assistant U.S. attorney for the Western District of Virginia, said Moneymaker used 'different levels of deceit' against not only combat veterans but service members who are wounded in the line of duty. In the six-month period ending 31 MAR, the VA Inspector General's Office investigations resulted in nine indictments against people who tried to scam the system for medical and/or monetary benefits, said James O'Neill, assistant inspector general for investigations. The report at www.armytimes.com/news/2008/05/army_moneymaker_051008w details the case against Moneymaker, who faces up to 35 years in federal prison. [Source: Houston Chronicle AP & Army Times article 6 & 9 May 08 ++]


I will cast no stones!

Dave Barker
 
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Its sad that people will stoop this low.The good thing about it,they got caught.
 
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What seems most aggravating to me, is that courts don't seem to want to actually sentence violators. Looked upon as a "victimless crime" I guess, slaps on the wrist is all they get. Watch this one, out of 35 years max sentence, I woulb bet he walks.

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I feel pity towards most of these people (more than anger). Don't get me wrong, this law needs to be there and I'm glad there are those who take the time to sniff this stuff out; but how sad is someone's life that they feel the need to try and elevate it with something they never did?

Whenever valor is stolen merely to brace up an empty life it's just pathetically sad - I think it's probably punishment enough that the emptiness of their life has been exposed for all to see.

Whenever it's used for the purposes of stealing money along with it - nail them to the cross.
 
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I knew an Army veteran who claimed with regard to his service that he had been with an Airborne battallion and had earned his jump wings. He was receiving 100% VA service connected disability because he broke his back on his first jump. Since I am former Navy, I am unsure, but doesn't a person have to make more than one jump to earn their wings and it has to be without incident? I don't know about that.
 
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I am also appalled that the media can do so much damage to those who actually do earn their awards. Remember the flap over ADM Boorda? ADM Zumwalt even acknowledged that he was entitled to the "V" device for his Navy Commendation (or was it Navy Achievement) medal. It was earned in a combat action, but the BCNR finally rejected the petition to correct his record. All because some PN didn't do his job. So that blade cuts both ways. Laziness of administration also steals the valor of those who earn it.
 
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Originally posted by The_Bonesaw:
I feel pity towards most of these people (more than anger). Don't get me wrong, this law needs to be there and I'm glad there are those who take the time to sniff this stuff out; but how sad is someone's life that they feel the need to try and elevate it with something they never did?

Whenever valor is stolen merely to brace up an empty life it's just pathetically sad - I think it's probably punishment enough that the emptiness of their life has been exposed for all to see.

Whenever it's used for the purposes of stealing money along with it - nail them to the cross.


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Back in 1987, I was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. I got wounded many times by the same guy. I’m still around,” Alvarez said during the meeting,


This guy Alvarez seems a bit crazy, based on that quote.

I'm all for harshly punishing scammers who make up stories for financial gain, but there's no point in hammering mentally ill losers who can't distinguish fantasy from reality.
 
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I knew an Army veteran who claimed with regard to his service that he had been with an Airborne battallion and had earned his jump wings. He was receiving 100% VA service connected disability because he broke his back on his first jump. Since I am former Navy, I am unsure, but doesn't a person have to make more than one jump to earn their wings and it has to be without incident? I don't know about that.


As long as it was in the line of duty and off duty if not breaking the law. My brother gets 30% because he was in a motorcycle accident while off duty. He was breaking no laws, he was not at fault.
 
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It may not be illegal, but I think it is claiming things that he can't. If I am wrong and he can get his wings with only jumping out of a plane, then I will have learned something. I don't know what the background for it was.
 
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I still think the best punishment for these people is to have to do bedpan, and mobility duty for those who earned these honors and then maybe they will realise what price has been paid to wear the medals.............
 
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I don't see how posers like these maggots can even show their faces in the company of Honorable Service men & women.

Makes me believe that public flogging is in order. Gun
 
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I can't help but believe that the fraudulent attempts to claim benefits to which one is not entitled contributes to the bureucratic maze and adds to the time required for the truly deserving to get their entitlements approved. It also has to contribute to the skepticism with which veterans' claims are often viewed by the VA.
 
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DING! Applause
 
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Apparently the VA can be easily fooled - or bribed. Most of the phonies don't have a clue yet are almost always receiving some VA bennies.
 
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I still think the best punishment for these people is to have to do bedpan, and mobility duty for those who earned these honors and then maybe they will realise what price has been paid to wear the medals.............


Would you want to be sick in a hospital and have some of them jerks near you? They'd probably steal your watch besides!
 
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A sad note that comes home nearly every time. In the past 30 years I have been quite active in dealing with veterans. During that time I have found hundreds of people claiming to be what they were not. A really sad problem is when a widow comes in for help and I must tell her that her deceased husband never served, or had a bad discharge, etcetera, it is tragic.
The widows most often became angry with me for telling them the awful truth, their husbands did not.


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It would have to be embarrassing for the widow to find this out in this manner.They were mad at their deceased husband and took it out on you.Have to feel sorry for them.They werent trying to pull a scam,only seeking what they thought they deserved.Only to be let down.
 
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I still think the best punishment for these people is to have to do bedpan, and mobility duty for those who earned these honors and then maybe they will realise what price has been paid to wear the medals.............



I vote for this one, with supervision and some nice harsh consequences if they don't do a good job. Note this does not apply to people who misremember something, which does happen, and has been the case with some of the people here. Sometimes you get the wrong info yourself, or sometimes the meds or consequences of things seen/done mess up your memory, or you just misremember something as everyone does. (And sometimes people sincerely believe what they are saying, but are mentally ill in a fashion that created the fantasy they believe.) Real consequences should be carefully reserved for real phonies.
 
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