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"Has Been 5" Lead Moderator Sound Off Forums  |
Yes. The DSM-IV is the same. Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th edition. The interpretation is still the human factor and that is where we have some problems with private clinicians (also some newbies in VA) and the language or terminology used by veterans. PTSD was not listed in the first DSM, or DSM II. The closest definition was Anxiety Neurosis, adult anxiety situation. In DSM III about 1980 PTSD was first given a definition with specific criteria. Later DSM III-R (revised) better defined the criteria. Finally DSM-IV addressed the issues of PTSD with additional issue of "learning of the loss" etcetera. You can find this discussed on my website. Here is a link to the DSM-IV: http://psyweb.com/Mdisord/DSM_IV/jsp/dsm_iv.jsp I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS”  |
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2007 FEDERAL BENEFITS FOR VETERANS BOOKLET ON LINE
The 2007 edition of the Federal Benefits for Veterans and Dependents is now online. Printed copies expected in April. This annually updated desk reference covering federal benefits programs for veterans and their families is available at http://www1.va.gov/OPA/vadocs/current_benefits.asp and http://www1.va.gov/OPA/vadocs/current_benefits.asp. I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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As a side note; the DSM-IV is taken much more seriously than earlier editions of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). That's because the diagnostic criteria were field tested to insure that they coincided with actual diagnoses in practice.
That's a big difference from the Vietnam Era where they diagnosis simply didn't exist! Thanks all. "There are those who believe there are two types of people in the world: Those who believe there are two types of people; and those who don't." John Mahoney... |
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Good point OldAFcop. We are working together, for the veterans!!!
I appreciate your support.  I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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wow,I have never seen so much info on PTSD anywhere.Thanks everyone for your efforts on the subject that has affected my life since 1969.
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Vernon, welcome aboard. Always nice to have another fisherman/hunter around.
I did Vietnam in 68 and 69, and it took me over 30 years to realize I had a "PROBLEM". I've been getting treatment at the VA now for about 9 years, both counseling and meds. PTSD is a monster with many heads. We all have to learn to cope with the different symptoms we have. Some symptoms are common to most, and some people have different responses than anyone else. It's kind of trial and error sometimes to work out a plan that works best for you, but with good VA assistance, group sessions, anger management and other therapy, life can be better. Come back some more and meet the rest of us. Welcome, Bill |
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Cherryread - Thanks for your great PTSD comments. There are quite a few VA sources to assist the military. Are you aware of sources for assistance for a DoD and Dept of State civilian who served in Iraq for 2 years? I contacted the docs at Tinker and they are ltd to mil. Many thanks
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I am British Falklands War veteran with PTSD and I have added your message board to my Blog. This condition is very misunderstood in the UK and leads to a higher percentage of veterans taking their own lives. Thanks for a very informative board,
Mack http://rogue-gunner.blogspot.com/ |
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Mack--after reading your blog all I can say is wow. --thanks for posting and wish you the best
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Welcome Mack. We all work together here serving our fellow veteran. I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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In reference to Dave's post, you can sign up for newsletters from the CTU-Online, the Clinician's Trauma Update. It is an electronic newsletter produced by the VA National Center for PTSD. CTU-Online provides summaries of clinically relevant publications in the trauma field with links to published abstracts or full text articles when available.
"The Modern Patriotism, the True Patriotism, the only Rational Patriotism is Loyalty to the Nation all of the time, Loyalty to the Government when it deserves it."~Mark Twain |
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I am a recovering alcoholic,that went thru the VA ARP program years and was wondering if this would
quilify me as PTSD. I am a Veit Vet,with high combat action in67-68-69. Any in put would be helpful. |
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Welcome beeman1. Please review the featured items. We have topics for as many issues as possible. You will find much help on PTSD Info and Links, with a lot of people who will become your brothers and sisters. This particular topic is for informatin sources.
General questions go here: http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/423002698...941001#8820080941001 I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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Mark this one!
HEALTH, VOL. 6" -- Finds sufficient evidence to associate deployment in a war zone with PTSD, depression, alcohol abuse, marital conflict and suicide. The full Institute of Medicine report is available here... http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11922#toc ------------------------- SUMMARY OF CONCLUSIONS Table S.1 provides a summary of the committee’s conclusions for each health effect discussed in the report by category of association. No health effects were found for two categories of association, sufficient evidence of a causal relationship and limited but suggestive evidence of no association. Of all the long-term health effects reviewed, the strongest findings were on psychiatric disorders, including PTSD, anxiety, and depression. Alcohol abuse, suicide and accidental death in the early years after deployment, and marital and family conflict also appear to be adverse sequelae of deployment-related stress. The committee found limited but suggestive evidence of an association between deployment-related stress and chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia and chronic widespread pain, gastrointestinal symptoms, skin disorders, incarceration, drug abuse, and increased symptom reporting, unexplained illness, and chronic pain. Finally, it should be repeated that the committee was charged with reviewing scientific data, not with making recommendations regarding VA policy. Sufficient Evidence of a Causal Association Evidence from available studies is sufficient to conclude that there is a causal relationship between deployment to a war zone and a specific health effect in humans. The evidence is supported by experimental data and fulfills the guidelines for sufficient evidence of an association (below). The evidence must be biologically plausible and satisfy several of the guidelines used to assess causality, such as strength of association, dose-response relationship, consistency of association, and temporal relationship. • No effects. Sufficient Evidence of an Association Evidence from available studies is sufficient to conclude that there is a positive association. That is, a consistent positive association has been observed between deployment to a war zone and a specific health effect in human studies in which chance and bias, including confounding, could be ruled out with reasonable confidence. For example, several high-quality studies report consistent positive associations, and the studies are sufficiently free of bias and include adequate control for confounding. • Psychiatric disorders, including PTSD, other anxiety disorders, and depressive disorders. • Alcohol abuse. • Accidental death in the early years after deployment. • Suicide in the early years after deployment. • Marital and family conflict. Limited but Suggestive Evidence of an Association Evidence from available studies is suggestive of an association between deployment to a war zone and a specific health effect, but the body of evidence is limited by the inability to rule out chance and bias, including confounding, with confidence. For example, at least one high-quality study reports a positive association that is sufficiently free of bias, including adequate control for confounding, and other corroborating studies provide support for the association (corroborating studies might not be sufficiently free of bias, including confounding). Alternatively, several studies of lower quality show consistent positive associations, and the results are probably not due to bias, including confounding. • Drug abuse. • Chronic fatigue syndrome. • Gastrointestinal symptoms consistent with functional gastrointestinal disorders, such as irritable bowel syndrome or functional dyspepsia. • Skin disorders. • Fibromyalgia and chronic widespread pain. • Increased symptom reporting, unexplained illness, and chronic pain. • Incarceration. Inadequate/Insufficient Evidence to Determine Whether an Association Exists Evidence from available studies is of insufficient quantity, quality, or consistency to permit a conclusion regarding the existence of an association between deployment to a war zone and a specific health effect in humans. • Cancer. • Diabetes mellitus. • Thyroid disease. • Neurocognitive and neurobehavioral effects. • Sleep disorders or objective measures of sleep disturbance. • Hypertension. • Coronary heart disease. • Chronic respiratory effects. • Structural gastrointestinal diseases. • Reproductive effects. • Homelessness. • Adverse employment outcomes. Limited but Suggestive Evidence of No Association Evidence is consistent in not showing a positive association between deployment to a war zone and a specific health effect after exposure of any magnitude. A conclusion of no association is inevitably limited to the conditions, magnitudes of exposure, and length of observation in the available studies. The possibility of a very small increase in risk after deployment cannot be excluded. • No effects. RECOMMENDATIONS The committee recommends that DOD conduct predeployment and postdeployment screening for medical conditions, including psychiatric symptoms and diagnoses, and for psychosocial status to help collect direct evidence about the causal nature of the effects of deployment-related stress. Predeployment screening would also help to identify at-risk personnel who might benefit from targeted intervention programs during deployment and would establish a baseline against which later health and psychosocial effects could be measured after deployment. Postdeployment screening and assessment would provide data that could be analyzed to determine the long-term consequences of deployment-related stress and would allow VA and DOD to implement intervention programs to assist deployed veterans in adjusting to postdeployment life. Such assessments should be made shortly after deployment and should identify those exposures most stressful to the veteran. The assessments should be made at regular intervals thereafter (such as every 5 years) to identify the long-term health and psychosocial effects. The committee further recommends that any longitudinal assessments also be conducted in a representative group of nondeployed veterans to allow appropriate comparisons between deployed and nondeployed veterans regarding health and psychosocial effects. I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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A gentle reminder. this is a topic for posting resource links. Please do not post questions, for questions go to Open Discussion, or a topic thread that covers your issue.
Thanks, Dave Barker Open Discussion http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4230026980001/m/7790084090001 I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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how about someone that suffers from PTSD but the va says no
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I will cast no stones. Another proud member, Derelict Veterans Group. “OF MUNERIS UT TOTUS” |
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Mr Barker i had a freacky experiance this afternoon....I was walking in Manhattan in a busy crowded uptown street.There was popping noises from construction going on..The temperature was about 81 and hot ..my mind began thinking of bullets rippinhg thru green leaves and hitting treas with thumps...I started to sweat and suddenly beacme scared....i tried focusung on reality of my surroundings ,but it took a while to divert my thaughts from harmful
combat to the reality of the the moment...i went into a Starbucks for an ice latte to take my mind off that scary combat dream walk....can you explain why that happens to me ,out of the clear blue ? Is this normal with combat vets in their 60,s .....thanks Dave for a reply |
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Halrow:
What you may be experiencing is an automatic response to stimuli (sorry for the fancy words), to which you are responding in the civilian world. This is normal. It's a good idea, if you are having continuing difficulties such as that which you describe, to check in with a local Vet Center and have a chat with a counselor there. They are very well experienced, it's free, all you need is your DD 214 and you are GTG. Thanks for posting here. "There are those who believe there are two types of people in the world: Those who believe there are two types of people; and those who don't." John Mahoney... |
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From 1989 - 1993, William Kimball (a Vietnam veteran) traveled around the United States giving seminars about how to identify and deal with PTSD from a biblical perspective. With his permission, we copied 5 audio tapes from his seminars to .mp3 files and have made them available as free downloads at the link below. You may freely copy these mp3 files and share them with others. However, you may not sell them under any circumstances. There is also a FAQ link about PTSD from the same link below:
www.creationists.org/ptsd.html Gary Martin Web site administrator |
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