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Again, bring these women home to their loved ones. What the hell are they doing over there anyway? Is this what our military has come out to fight with. Little girls picking up a weapon and facing the War on Terror... Let's empty our prison system out and send these individuals over there with the agreement their sentence is reduced if they survive. What the hell is wrong with this country anyway??? We're no better then the enemy if we are forced to use our women in combat!!! Now, go figure that one out!
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I am constantly amazed at the turns some of these conversations take. It does not matter if the soldier is male or female, all are susceptable to PTSD and need to be accorded the best treatment the system can muster (and right now the system is falling way short of this goal) and PTSD is not only brought about by the demands and horrors of combat.
The debate over whether women should be in the military, what roles they should play etc... is null and void. Fact is with the exception of direct combat roles (armor, infantry, artillery) there are women in almost all specialties. I would hope you would be just as happy with a female pilot providing close air support as with any other. Many of these girls are just as capable as thier male counterparts in thier roles. Yes men and women differ in emotional, physical and analytical makeup. In my time in the Army I served with some outstanding female soldiers and some not so good. A good commander/leader knows how to use the individual strengths of his team to thier advantage. Not everyone is good at everything. Give em a break guys they are trying to do thier jobs as best they can just like everyone else. As for being worse than our enemy because we are forced to use our women in the military, every citizen of this country owes for the freedoms we enjoy, male, female, red, green blue, yellow, black or white and it is about time everyone started to ante up. Welcome to the 21st century folks. What did Rummy say that evry one was so supportive of? You go to war with the army you have not the one you wish you had" or something to that effect. May be some dumb*** is thinking that cute little girl with the big gun could not possibly harm him. He might be in for a big surprise in the end. And she is awful cute  |
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I stumbled across this board while I was doing research on veterans' non profits. I feel a need to respond to this because, quite frankly, some of the information I see being shared here is patently false. Although I agree that women are not up to the PHYSICAL stresses of combat that men are, I disagree that women are less able to handle mental stress than men are. I would definitely like to see any medical reports or facts on this from 6145060. Every report I've read where they've done studies on pain, women had higher thresholds for pain than men did. Also, have many babies have you had? I've had three, two without any pain medication at all. There's a bigger picture here: "The U. S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) says the nation's homeless veterans are mostly males (4 % are females). The vast majority are single, most come from poor, disadvantaged communities, 45% suffer from mental illness, and half have substance abuse problems. America’s homeless veterans have served in World War II, Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), Operation Iraqi Freedom, or the military’s anti-drug cultivation efforts in South America. Forty-seven percent of homeless veterans served during the Vietnam Era. More than 67% served our country for at least three years and 33% were stationed in a war zone." (vchv.org). Why is knowing the truth so vitally important? 1. By knowing the truth, then we can properly formulate the right policy to help veterans with PTSD. 2. PTSD is a form of mental illness, not any sort of weakness. It needs to be treated accordingly. 3. Since mental illness and homelessness are related, we need to look at both issues together adequately solve the problem. 4. Since it seems to be a problem male vets are more likely to have than female vets, programs to treat and help those with PTSD will need to be primarily tailored to treat men. You can talk about the problem all day. The truth is, it really doesn't matter if it's a male vet or a female vet with the problem, and if only one vet has it, we still need to address it. We owe our military and veterans this. I am a female veteran (US Army). I also served in the guard for an additional 6 1/2 years. Although I didn't serve in combat, both of my exes did, and it really messed them up mentally. I raised three daughters, on my own, because it was easier than dealing with the drinking and the BS that went with it because neither would admit to a problem. If you think me inpertinent to "butt in", then I apologize. However, I see nothing productive about debating whether women should be in combat or not (I personally don't think they should be, but we do have a place in the military.) What I would love to see a lot more of in the military/veteran community is action to solve these things. Not so much talk. Respectfully, Jinger Jarrett |
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i think it is messed up that its become an issue when it is women have the problems men suffer from PTSD too
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women have as much right to fight for somethin they believe in as uch as men if women didn't want to be over there and fight for there contry along side with men they would not have inlisted
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They say that women are not to have combat rolls. Then what are they going to do if their neibrohood patrol comes under fire. I'm sorry to say, but they wanted to be treated as an equal. PTSD is one of the things that comes with combat. They will have to deal with it like any other combat vet.
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I guess I am just too damn old fashioned. IMHO I do not believe that women should be in combat conditions or environments. This shiite of putting them into firefights is not right.
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Where are the Carriers? |
The joys of equality.NOT.
"Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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I dont care what gender you are, if you can carry me or save my butt during a firefight bring it on. If a woman is willing to freeze her toochie off in a fighting hole like me, I say let her have it.
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Your post made no sense at all. I have worked side by side with women in law enforcement, working very tough assignments. I have had the privledge of women serving under my command both in the Navy and Police Dept. Under no circumstances did they drop the ball. In fact, I have had men fail miserably during the same assignments. As for PTSD, this is a trauma that has no barriers. It is just unfortunate that people, be they civilian or military have to witness or experience things in life that are so terrible that their mind is constantly affected by that experience for the rest of their lives. You can't just say women shouldn't be in the military or should be sent home from what they want to do just because of bad experiences. Men, women, young, old, and even children can be affected from PTSD. Anything from the loss of a loved one to a car accident to a house fire to a war zone. What I am thankful for is that our military has finally determined that it is a problem and is addressing the problem. In past wars, a veteran was just on his own to deal with it. God bless all our troops and I hope they all return home soon. |
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way to push your rhetoric on us all. as usual when **** goes wrong we blame the now... IS THERE A CABOOSE TO YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT? |
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Of all the PTSD stories that I have read on the web sites over the past six months or so were about men not women. This is the first story. So I kind of think they are dealing with it. |
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I was a jailer, am now a combat vet... I don't want an undisciplined, nut-job prisoner watching my '6' SHORT TIMER!!!  |
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For the most part there is a reason most all those bums are in prison and should stay there. By the way, doing time, a little harder. |
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Well it seems like women have finally reached equallity with men!....They are now being equally screwed by a military mental health system that doesn't work, and a VA system that is no were near prepared to handle the large amount of PTSD and other mental health issues these brave men and women are facing!
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I wasn't aware that a medic could render a diagnosis of PTSD (even for female hair loss). I was pretty sure that a doctor or psychologist had to render that decision. While I have no doubts that females have had as much opportunity to be afflicted by PTSD as some males, it should be left to the professionals to determine if it is a valid claim.
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Our VA has come a long way from the way things used to be, thank God. Through education and better understanding, the VA now is diagnosing and approving the disability claims. Our veterans are in fact getting the much needed attention for PTSD and TBI. |
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Jim, My cousin that grew up with me and was as close to me as a brother was a medic in the 101st. He was KIA in Vietnam in July 1968 (Jack R. Sanborn. I have always had the utmost respect for you medics and the Navy's Corpsmen. It is a tough job that leads to PTSD in a large percentage of people. Thank you for your service and glad you made it back. |
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Military.com Forums Health and Fitness Post Traumatic Stress Disorder - Information and Links PTSD Cases Soar for Women Soldiers, topic includes MST
