Lets see if i have this right... The DHS is preparing a mass migration plan called Vigilant Senetry to stop any illegal immgration in the event of Castro's death. The CG has been preparing for the past three years but will do nothing untill conformation of Castro's death. Hmmm... sounds like a familiar problem doesn't it? Point being lets ramp up against a Cuban migration but leave the borders open! Stay Safe!
Originally posted by fiszotcg: Lets see if i have this right... The DHS is preparing a mass migration plan called Vigilant Senetry to stop any illegal immgration in the event of Castro's death.
Just out of curiosity, is this public knowledge? Is the operational name given to it public? Apologies if this has been known about.
Surprisingly, yes. This is another article on it that appeared today.
"The Department of Homeland Security has developed a mass migration plan called Vigilant Sentry. It will include resources from all levels within the Department of Homeland Security to stop any illegal immigration."
depending on which way the new cuban gov't would swing, you might find that there is a mass migration from Florida to Cuba. Many want to return to their homeland.
Originally posted by Skullduggery: depending on which way the new cuban gov't would swing, you might find that there is a mass migration from Florida to Cuba. Many want to return to their homeland.
With the record of Socialist/Marxist regimes in Latin America being replaced by authoritarian/totalitarian dictators (El Salvadore and Chile come to mind), there might even be a heavier migration of Cubans to the United States than we realize.
Wonder if anyone has thought that it might buffer the effects of regime change in Cuba to illiminate the trade embargo with Cuba and treat them the same as we treat another Marxist/Leninist nation - the Peoples Republic of China and now, even more so, Vietnam.
So what your really saying Mark, is that Cuban cigars may finially be avaiable to we gringos? I remember my grandmother who vacationed in Havanna, telling me of the wonderfull Cuban people, casinos, and nightlife. My grandfather had a slightly differant story! I did date the daughter of displaced shipping offical who left in the early 60's with his wife and only the clothes on there backs! Hoo boy the memories!
I donno, I would look forward to the Cuban beaches and sipping their rum. Cuban cigars were useful while flyfishing in Canadian streams as they sure kept the misquitos at bay.
Back to the topic at hand, you were correct to call the government on their double-standard of immigration enforcement - Florida Straits Vs the U.S./Mexico border. Unless there is an important political election around the corner in the United States, our government tends to give only lip service to border enforcement and repatriating Latin American illegal immigrants back south of the border. Hatians and Cubans, so it seems, have a better chance of entering the United States illegally if they do so through Mexico.
Hence my sarchastic statement above, "do as we say, not as we do."
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Originally posted by asm3driscoll: I think Cuba is ready for democracy! What are the chances we will find oil there?
Surgar cain = rum!
Actually, there was a recent discovery of a huge deposit of oil located below the botton of the sea, just offshore of Cuba which the Peoples Republic of China is showing strong interest in.
So, the issue goes well beyond the health of Fidel Castro.
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I think Cuba is ready for democracy!
Your statement begs the question, with only about 40 percent of registered voters even bothering to show up at the polls, is the United States ready for democracy???
Democracy in America is a work in progress, I'll hold my judgement on it till I am a lot older and wiser if that ever comes to happen. Other wise the people involved get what they sow. My town as an example of democracy in action and is held in controll by a small percentage of the people that get involved. There are those that gripe but still fail to get involved. All in all I think the system works for the greater good in my town. Peace, Dick
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I always wondered what Anti-Castro groups like Alpha 66, Omega 7, Kommandozeile, etc, were doing all their training in South Florida for. You'd see stories in the Miami Herald of how they were training out in the Everglades to take over in Cuba to free everyone from Castro.
I guess they never got around to it.
We'd run across them from time to time on our patrols and seize their weapons, etc. Not like we were supporting Castro or anything but you can't exactly overlook a bunch of wannabes running around in the Keys with automatic weapons, etc.
You would have to define "mass migration" and "mass migration plan" if you say there has always been a mass migration plan in D7.
In 1965 there was no plan and no plan that I have seen especially in 1980 (Mariel). Was there a plan in place prior to 1993/1994? Not too sure at this point in time.
The plan will be (has always been) to simply react. In 1980, one of my mentors was a wee flight mechanic on H52's, fresh out of "A" school and eager for SAR. The SAR alarm blared, he and his pilots took off, and didn't get back home for a few weeks. Katrina ops reinforce that model but, ya know, we're pretty good at it. The potential for a mass migration, in either direction, is great. If you can divine which way it'll go, you'll be a rich person.
You would have to define "mass migration" and "mass migration plan" if you say there has always been a mass migration plan in D7.
In 1965 there was no plan and no plan that I have seen especially in 1980 (Mariel). Was there a plan in place prior to 1993/1994? Not too sure at this point in time.
Dennis, when I was Suppo at Group Key West in 92 - 96 there was a very sparse to say the least tab in the D7 OPLAN. It was lacking quite a bit. After the Mass Migration in 94, 10 or 12 of us from Key West spent a week in Miami writing the Mass Migration OPLAN that was very comprehensive....I believe you when you said there wasn't anything in place prior to that. There wasn't much in place in 94; we winged it!
Dave1960 has it correct up until after 93/94: react. As an outsider, the current plan seems to me a valid one.
Dave1960 may be wrong on one point about figuring out which the mass migration will go. I think the person who figures out when the US will allow trade/tourism with Cuba and who gets there first with the right business and work with the Cubans will be a very, very rich person. What the right thing is, I do not know. If I did, I sure would not be sitting behind this computer at 0615 on Fred's Place, I would be perfecting and testing my own OPPLAN and be ready to go!
In this case there is actually more than just a plan. There is actually an official interagency task force, Homeland Security Task Force Southeast, that was established by the Secretary specifically to develop (really redevelop) an interagency mass migration plan for the entire Caribbean.
In addition to actually having the plan, it is often referenced and even exercised to train to maintain currency.
However, as is always the case, as someone once said (I think it was Eisenhower) "plans are useless, but planning is indispensable."
Yes, all of the above information is publicly releasable.
Anyone from the US can get into Cuba, through Europe, Canada, or Mexico. Cubans are not the ones stopping US citizens. The catch is when you come back into the U.S. a number of agencies will be ready to "greet" you. There is a large fine and possible prison if you spend US money there. There are some exceptions that have to be cleared through the Treasury Department. The process is a "fun" experience.
