That looks like the nice, dry bow of a good sea boat. Which is more than I can say for the looks of the NSC's focsle.

Yeah, it needs a bigger gun!

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Originally posted by 1MC:
That looks like the nice, dry bow of a good sea boat. Which is more than I can say for the looks of the NSC's focsle.

I agree 1MC.. one of my observations with the new 175 WLM's and the 225 WLB's is that the foscle needs to be higher out of the water like the 180's were. I have seen quite a few photos now of 175's and 225's in moderate seas where green water is pouring onto the buoy deck like a waterfall.



CHGuns photos

Being a 225 plankowner, and having crossed the Atlantic ocean on her twice, I can tell you there is no issue with the height of her bow. If anything - there are some issue with it being too high. 175s are pretty tall too. Don't let the pictures decieve you!

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Yeah, it needs a bigger gun!

Amongst other things.....

Not to say that the crew didn't do a good job and aren't worthy of praise for their efforts, but if you read the below section of the message, you will see that this was yet, another avoidable casualty. No fire watch in the space could very well be a career ender for more than one person. Thank God no one was hurt!!! Any body hear what the estimated cost of damage is?

"A. WHILE IN GRAVING DOCK, HOTWORK WAS BEING CONDUCTED ON THE HULL IN THE VICINITY OF THE STARBOARD AFT BULKHEAD OF THE ENGINE ROOM.
SHIPYARD PERSONNEL WERE CUTTING HULL PLATING FROM THE EXTERIOR, WITH FIREWATCH MONITORING THE WORK ON THE DRYDOCK FLOOR AND IN THE ENGINE ROOM AND JP-5 TANK. APPROXIMATELY THREE LINEAR FEET OF HULL PLATE WAS CUT, TWO FEET ABOVE THE JP-5 TANK INTO THE ENGINEERING STORE ROOM (COMPARTMENT 3-256-0-A). NO FIRE WATCH WAS IN THE ENGINEERING STORE ROOM."

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...WITH FIREWATCH MONITORING THE WORK ON THE DRYDOCK FLOOR AND IN THE ENGINE ROOM AND JP-5 TANK....

It sounds like there were three firewatches in three places where the work was being done so I am not sure what was missing. I'm sure you are more familiar with the layout of the ship than I am so could you please explain?

Fire watches were in those places, but none were in the "ENGINEERING STORE ROOM" which is above the JP-5 tank. Which is where 2 feet of their cutting of the hull plate was being done. Last I heard, approximately $1,000,000.00 in damage to the space and cost of replacing the stores. But I don't have that from a hard source yet.

Thanks for the info.

Could be that the CG saved a few bucks not having the shipyard man the fire watch, let's just use our already overburdened crews for that. Nothing like being an OOD while the yardbirds are working...
CWO A

Has this particular MISHAP report been cleared for internet release?

I used to hang out in the Engineer Storeroom. It's always cool and quiet down there.

Glad no one got hurt.

Frank
DALLAS shipmate

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It's always cool and quiet down there.

..I guess now you have to change that too ALMOST ALWAYS cool.........

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Originally posted by 4101670:
Could be that the CG saved a few bucks not having the shipyard man the fire watch, let's just use our already overburdened crews for that. Nothing like being an OOD while the yardbirds are working...
CWO A

Scuttlebutt is saying that the yard has already fessed up to it being an issue with one of their folks, performing unauthorized work, and has asked the CG to provide work orders for all repairs on the yards dime.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:
Being a 225 plankowner, and having crossed the Atlantic ocean on her twice, I can tell you there is no issue with the height of her bow. If anything - there are some issue with it being too high. 175s are pretty tall too. Don't let the pictures decieve you!

Master Chief .. You would know better than I would. Like I said it was just an observation from photos I've seen plus speaking with some deck force members who have served on the 175's and the 225's about taking green water over the foscle.

Old Damage Control Diagram. It's not showing 3 deck, but it can be used as a reference to frame 256.

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Originally posted by 1MC:
That looks like the nice, dry bow of a good sea boat. Which is more than I can say for the looks of the NSC's focsle.

What...The 378's bow isn't dry enough for ya?

(Chase, WHEC-718)


Don

Fortunately, no loss of life. The MV Roger Blough caught fire while under construction at the American Shipyards in Lorain, Ohio in 1971. Four lives were lost. The following excerpt taken from boatnerd(dot)com

"The official launch was scheduled for July, 1971 but a serious engine room fire on June 24, 1971 delayed the launch for almost a full year. The exact origin of the fire remains a mystery though there was speculation pointing a finger at a high intensity light bulb. (The local fire department, though, was unable to locate the actual cause.) What is known is that there was diesel fuel leaking from a faulty bonnet gasket on a fuel line in the engine room and the yard employees were advised to immediately extinguish any flame. The fire, though, had already started. Those that could get off did so; but many went back on board to fight the flames knowing that four of their co-workers (two welders and two air tool department workers) were trapped as they were checking a tank filled with air for leaks located immediately below the engine room; regardless of the fact that a couple of decks below was a fuel tank containing thousands of gallons of diesel fuel. The trapped workers died of asphyxiation; the engines and aft deck house were destroyed. Repairs to hull #900 cost approximately $13 million. (I wish to acknowledge with thanks, a welder who was working in the engine room at the time of the fire for supplying me with his first-hand account of this incident.) "

We had several small fires during my two years on the Taney. One happened during lunch and piped as 'Fire in the paint locker.' The paint locker was one deck above and just aft of the magazines. It turned out the DC's were cutting on the other side of the bulkhead and no one caught the paint starting to blister and burn in the paint locker. The scariest, to me, was the fire in the engine room. It was reported to us on the bridge as a fire in the nr. 2 main unit. As I headed to my fire billet in after steering, all I could see was thick black smoke pouring out of the engine room. It turned out to be a grease fire in the nr. 2 generator.

As for sea-keeping, 327's were the best. While unrepping with a 255 on OWS Hotel, it seemed their stem was about reading to go all the way under then we could see the bottom of the hull as she came up. While we were just steaming along, nice and smooth. If I can learn how to post a picture I could give proof.

As old as they were the 327's rode 50 ft seas great. 255's rode hard. May the BIBB rest in peace.