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CAPE MAY - A sailor at Coast Guard Station Cape May on Thursday testified that he got drunk with his former company commander, passed out and woke up to find his one-time mentor sexually assaulting him.
The testimony came during a military hearing, called an Article 32 Investigation, exploring charges against Petty Officer 1st Class Wilson Medina. The Coast Guard does not normally open up its legal processes to the media, but decided to do so in this case.

Medina, 36, a 13-year Coast Guard veteran, is accused of forcible sodomy and abusive sexual contact against his former boot camp recruit, a 23-year-old man whose identity is being withheld by the media.

The former recruit testified that Medina initially made a pass at him while he was awake, grabbing his private parts, and later, after passing out from a night of heavy drinking, he awoke to find his pants had been pulled down and Medina was performing oral sex on him.

Medina declined to take the stand at the hearing at Training Center Cape May before Lt. Cmdr. Russell E. Bowman, the investigating officer in the case. An Article 32 hearing is similar to a grand jury proceeding, but instead of jurors hearing the evidence, the investigating officer hears it


So how is this going to look for the CG?
 
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Exactly how it would look if it were the Navy, AF, Army or MC would on the same charges.
 
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After the CC was touching him while he was awake would have been a great time to leave. Must have been a lot of alcohol involved.
 
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Ding Ding.. If I was hanging out with some dude who just stuck a knife in someones heart.. I'm not going to keep partying with the guy.. I'm looking for a exit. Not that I'm calling the victim stupid or anything but there's proof that boozing doesn't make one's decissions always the right ones. But then again, there's enough crossess on the side of the road to prove that point. Frown
 
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After the CC was touching him while he was awake would have been a great time to leave. Must have been a lot of alcohol involved.


No argument there. I don't care if I have to sleep in a dumpster or pay $500 for a hotel room, I'm out when another dude touches the cash 'n prizes.
 
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I don't think alcohol makes straight people suddenly become gay.

There's something else "up" here.
 
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Exactly how it would look if it were the Navy, AF, Army or MC would on the same charges.


This wouldn't look good anywhere, done by anyone...

I'll just leave it at that.

Wray.... Cool
 
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How may gay CC's does this make now? I believe in DADT, and a person's desire to serve our nation. But to pray on our newest members? Should we take a closer look at our selection process for Company Commanders? Whether the former recruit was drunk or not does not matter. We all have taken care of a fellow Coastie that has had too much to drink, few of us have groped the person and performed sexual acts on them. This is an example of totally unacceptable behavior. If proven guilty, this guy needs to be pounded into the ground. Wake up Cape May, how is this stuff going on right under your nose? Our newest members are the future of our service, they are the ones we need to take the best care of. Someone was asleep at the wheel.
 
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The facts aren't clear. Did this event happen when Medina was an active CC and the "sailor" was his recruit? Or were these two organizationally disconnected? Where did it happen, off or on base and what day of the week?

The reason it's important is to explain the involvement or lack of from the CC chain of command. If this happened during recruit training did the command know of Medina's sexual activities? Where there other willing or unwilling accomodating recruits? Doesn't this event reinforce the perception of the weakness of DADT?
 
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Exactly how it would look if it were the Navy, AF, Army or MC would on the same charges.


WTF are you talking about!?! It would look the same as it does in the Cg as it does in any other service. Poorly!!!!

Please explain if I'm out of line here. I guess I'm not understanding your question on this one.

Someone did something they shouldn't have, in a big huge crazy way!! Don't blame our favorite friend "alcohol" on this one. Sucking a %$(K is sucking a %$(k I don't care how much hooch u been drinkin'

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How may gay CC's does this make now? I believe in DADT, and a person's desire to serve our nation. But to pray on our newest members? Should we take a closer look at our selection process for Company Commanders? Whether the former recruit was drunk or not does not matter. We all have taken care of a fellow Coastie that has had too much to drink, few of us have groped the person and performed sexual acts on them. This is an example of totally unacceptable behavior. If proven guilty, this guy needs to be pounded into the ground. Wake up Cape May, how is this stuff going on right under your nose? Our newest members are the future of our service, they are the ones we need to take the best care of. Someone was asleep at the wheel.


Senior, look me up in the global and drop me a line. I'd love to help you arrange for some AD time so you could come down here and help us wake up and "fix" this.

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Originally posted by arctictraveler:
How may gay CC's does this make now? I believe in DADT, and a person's desire to serve our nation. But to pray on our newest members? Should we take a closer look at our selection process for Company Commanders? Whether the former recruit was drunk or not does not matter. We all have taken care of a fellow Coastie that has had too much to drink, few of us have groped the person and performed sexual acts on them. This is an example of totally unacceptable behavior. If proven guilty, this guy needs to be pounded into the ground. Wake up Cape May, how is this stuff going on right under your nose? Our newest members are the future of our service, they are the ones we need to take the best care of. Someone was asleep at the wheel.


Senior, look me up in the global and drop me a line. I'd love to help you arrange for some AD time so you could come down here and help us wake up and "fix" this.


Bruce

Can you let us know if he accepts?

T
 
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Be interested in knowing if he accepts also!! Leader, follow, or shut the heck up. I don't care which one you do, just pick one. Don't just stand there yelling the equivilant of "Something ought to be done!"
 
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Okay, something doesn't smell right to me...

This kid says he felt "disgusted" after it happened, but he still socialized with the CC and his family? And it was several weeks before he said anything, and he's telling different stories? Just my opinion here; and it may very well be wrong, but it sounds like someone found out about the two and now he's claiming assault to keep his job.
 
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Bruce,
Think I have been hiding in an admin job? Doing what is just enough? You obviously don't know me, you would have had to join the CG in 1974 to even begin to know me. Is nine years of active duty enough for you? How about 34+ total years of service? How about that I am in my second tour at a PSU to lead the Boats Division? A position which requires me to not only lead a large group of people, including many new folks out of boot camp and A school, but also requires me to maintain certifications mostly held by people half my age. Or that maybe as a result I will be away from my family for an extended period? Or maybe that while I am not spending an inordinate amount of time focusing on my duties, I have spent an even larger amount of time in business. Try pouring 80+ hours a week into a job, then giving up 25% of you weekends to serve. Only to have too many people criticize you for who you are? Do you think Reservists sit at home and clip coupons off of Bearer Bonds between Reserve weekends? Sorry if my remarks touched too close to home, but your comments insulted myself as a Reservist. You imply that because I am not on active duty, I can't fix a problem. The most important people in the CG are our very newest, they have the longest time left to serve. They deserve only the very best. My original post may have been a little strongly worded, but I stand by its intention. Sorry if it struck a nerve, you obviously struck one of mine.


Tony - Your response to the MC's post was uncalled for and a slam on me. You don't remember me do you? Spent some time on your boat while you were visiting Boston, I was doing the last four years of my active duty at the time. Think I did not work hard? Or that this Reservist did not somehow know how to fix problems?
 
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Naomi,
I choose the "Lead" part of your suggestion. always have, always will. I am not one to sit back and whine. I am doing my part where I am, it is fair to expect others to do the same.
Brian
 
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Bruce,
Think I have been hiding in an admin job? Doing what is just enough? You obviously don't know me, you would have had to join the CG in 1974 to even begin to know me. Is nine years of active duty enough for you? How about 34+ total years of service? How about that I am in my second tour at a PSU to lead the Boats Division? A position which requires me to not only lead a large group of people, including many new folks out of boot camp and A school, but also requires me to maintain certifications mostly held by people half my age. Or that maybe as a result I will be away from my family for an extended period? Or maybe that while I am not spending an inordinate amount of time focusing on my duties, I have spent an even larger amount of time in business. Try pouring 80+ hours a week into a job, then giving up 25% of you weekends to serve. Only to have too many people criticize you for who you are? Do you think Reservists sit at home and clip coupons off of Bearer Bonds between Reserve weekends? Sorry if my remarks touched too close to home, but your comments insulted myself as a Reservist. You imply that because I am not on active duty, I can't fix a problem. The most important people in the CG are our very newest, they have the longest time left to serve. They deserve only the very best. My original post may have been a little strongly worded, but I stand by its intention. Sorry if it struck a nerve, you obviously struck one of mine.


Tony - Your response to the MC's post was uncalled for and a slam on me. You don't remember me do you? Spent some time on your boat while you were visiting Boston, I was doing the last four years of my active duty at the time. Think I did not work hard? Or that this Reservist did not somehow know how to fix problems?


Brian

Yes, I remember you at our dockside availability. I didnt say you never worked hard. I was joking with the above comment, didnt mean to offend. My apologies.

T
 
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Tony,
Those were the good times, especially the escorts of the LNG's. You guys did a few with us. Any day u/w beats a day in the office!
Brian
 
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Hey Brian,
You sound like the real deal to me.
Keep up the good work.
Peace,
Dick
 
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