Removed by order of Mil.com. What goes for one, goes for all.

T

Tony,
If that is REALLY the case, how come ROB keeps bumping up the "Here is your chance!" thread, then locks it...

Guess we should mention this to Vince as well....after all, he is ROB's boss.

Wray...

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ROBOCOP

Sweet!

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Originally posted by Wray:
Tony,
If that is REALLY the case, how come ROB keeps bumping up the "Here is your chance!" thread, then locks it...

Guess we should mention this to Vince as well....after all, he is ROB's boss.

Wray...

MC, the link in question on Robs post is a MIL.COM sponsered link. Those appear to be "ok".

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MC, the link in question on Robs post is a MIL.COM sponsered link. Those appear to be "ok".

I know they are ok, I just fail to see the need to keep bumping it up to the top... I guess they are not getting the response they desired....

Wray....

I've been working all day so I haven't had a chance to reply. I still don't agree with this "forum only" policy. I am sure you who are moderators of these forums have read the Terms of Service (ToS) (link at the bottom of every page)- in said Tos item 17 states:

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17. The links found on the Military.com Web site will let you leave our Web site and go to sites operated by parties other than Military Advantage, Inc. The linked sites are not under the control of Military Advantage, Inc. and we are not responsible for the contents of any linked site or any link contained in a linked site, or any changes or updates to such sites. Such links by the Military.com Web site to sites maintained by third parties do not constitute an endorsement, guaranty, or warranty by Military Advantage, Inc., or any of its affiliates, of any third party or their content, nor the existence of a partnership, joint venture, agency, or other relationship between Military Advantage, Inc., or any of its affiliates, and any linked third party or their content. Military Advantage, Inc. does not assume any responsibility or liability for the actions, product, content and/or information of these and other third parties and/or their web sites. You should carefully review their privacy statements and other conditions of use.

I do NOT see anything about NOT being able to link outside this site, especially to relevant subjects.

militia1, I am not doubting you were "ordered" to remove it, however, as a moderator you are obligated to be a voice for the forums you moderate, as such I ask you to ask those who do the ordering for some better clarification. Now if I were the type of person to continually spam the forums with links to my site I could understand. However, as I recall I have only mentioned my personal site maybe 3 or 4 times (excluding my signature). We need some clarification here my friend.

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Originally posted by Wray:
Tony,
If that is REALLY the case, how come ROB keeps bumping up the "Here is your chance!" thread, then locks it...

Guess we should mention this to Vince as well....after all, he is ROB's boss.

Wray...

Wray,

I'll save you the trouble on this one. It was Vince who asked me to make the post. And in case you have not realized it yet, the link is to a page on Military.com (not an outside source).

I bump it and close it to keep the thread clean.

Folks,

As I have already explained in another thread:

TOS #17 is the wrong one to look at. It is TOS#6 that you should be reading.

I don't know how else I can explain this to have it understood, but I'll try again. Here is the bottom line on links:

Here are examples of links that you cannot post:

1. Linkst that lead outside of Military.com to unaffiliated sites.

2. Links to unaffiliated sites that contain commercial ads or solicitations (for example, solicit money donations or personal information to create an account)

3. Links that lead to material that you personally do not own and is the intellectual property of another and/or is otherwise protected under copyright laws.

Note: If you are the owner of the site that is linked, go back and read #1 and #2. If you want to become an affiliated site, you must contact our Office of Community Outreach (Vince Patton) or our home office in San Fran, CA.

So if the link leads outside of Military.com to a site that contains ads, solicitations, is unaffiliated, or you don't own... you should not post it.

Please re-visit TOS #6... not #17.

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Wray,

I'll save you the trouble on this one. It was Vince who asked me to make the post. And in case you have not realized it yet, the link is to a page on Military.com (not an outside source).

I bump it and close it to keep the thread clean.

Rob, I'm sure Vince wanted it here... no problem with that.... I guess what I don't understand is why it is

1. locked.
2 you keep bumping it to the top.

Not sure what you mean about keeping the tread "clean"... if it is locked how can it be anything BUT clean?

Wray...

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Originally posted by Wray:

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Wray,

I'll save you the trouble on this one. It was Vince who asked me to make the post. And in case you have not realized it yet, the link is to a page on Military.com (not an outside source).

I bump it and close it to keep the thread clean.

Rob, I'm sure Vince wanted it here... no problem with that.... I guess what I don't understand is why it is

1. locked.
2 you keep bumping it to the top.

Not sure what you mean about keeping the tread "clean"... if it is locked how can it be anything BUT clean?

Wray...

Wray, what you may not notice is that the thread is linked far and wide, and it rotates down the page much faster in our active forums. It looks different in the line-up here, because these forums are far less active than others (so it rotates slower).

As for keeping it clean, that's a good thing. Besides, it's not a discussion piece, it's supposed to be an attention-getter to direct folks to the page.

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RYAN: militia1, I am not doubting you were "ordered" to remove it, however, as a moderator you are obligated to be a voice for the forums you moderate, as such I ask you to ask those who do the ordering for some better clarification. Now if I were the type of person to continually spam the forums with links to my site I could understand. However, as I recall I have only mentioned my personal site maybe 3 or 4 times (excluding my signature). We need some clarification here my friend.

RYAN .. From what Rob posted it looks like no links of any kind to any site are permitted unless those sites are milcom affiliates; so that would be your answer.

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ROB: 1. Linkst that lead outside of Military.com to unaffiliated sites.

THANK YOU ROB. We finally got a clear and concise answer to the question what links can or can not be posted.

SO WHERE DO WE GET A LIST OF MILCOM AFFILIATES?

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Originally posted by Wray:

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Wray,

I'll save you the trouble on this one. It was Vince who asked me to make the post. And in case you have not realized it yet, the link is to a page on Military.com (not an outside source).

I bump it and close it to keep the thread clean.

Rob, I'm sure Vince wanted it here... no problem with that.... I guess what I don't understand is why it is

1. locked.
2 you keep bumping it to the top.

Not sure what you mean about keeping the tread "clean"... if it is locked how can it be anything BUT clean?

Wray...

If he leaves it open the unwashed masses here will dirty it.

Good question, Ron. That's the last piece of information needed to clear this thing up. I STILL think that military.com is missing out on something big--being a resource for all things Coast Guard (or other service). Being considered a portal is the big prize.

Guess we'll have to leave that up to other unnamed sites.

Tam

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Originally posted by TAMCOM:
Good question, Ron. That's the last piece of information needed to clear this thing up. I STILL think that military.com is missing out on something big--being a resource for all things Coast Guard (or other service). Being considered a portal is the big prize.

Guess we'll have to leave that up to other unnamed sites.

Tam

We know other sources who are more than happy to have the COAST GUARD CHANNEL and CGBlog don't we Tam?..

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Originally posted by RobRodriguez:


Here are examples of links that you cannot post:

1. Linkst that lead outside of Military.com to unaffiliated sites.

I've read TOS #6 and do not see anything with that wording. What I do see is this:

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(i) disrupts the normal flow of dialogue and/or exchange on the Site, including posting or otherwise transmitting material that is not related to the subject at issue or otherwise restricts or inhibits any other user from using and enjoying the Military.com Web site ;

It does not say anything about not being affiliated. How would CGBlog be in violation of this TOS. He is not soliciting anything.

Pretty ironic that an article about MCPO Patton, a top dog in this company, was removed for violating the TOS.

Is Yahoo affiliated? NBC, FOX, ABC, Huffington Post, etc? If you're going to enforce TOS #6, there's going to be a lot of links and threads closed.

CGShipmate

No, those are not "affiliated", but still allowed if your linking towards them as part of a discussion. Its kind of hard to debate something if you cant post where its coming from.

T

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Originally posted by militia1:
CGShipmate

No, those are not "affiliated", but still allowed if your linking towards them as part of a discussion. Its kind of hard to debate something if you cant post where its coming from.
T

Tony, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but I have to disagree. Rob said and I quote ...

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So if the link leads outside of Military.com to a site that contains ads, solicitations, is unaffiliated, or you don't own... you should not post it.

Based upon what Rob said, I'm not sure I would post a link to an unaffiliated, advertiser supported site as it would be clearly in violation of the above.

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Originally posted by Squiter:

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Originally posted by militia1:
CGShipmate

No, those are not "affiliated", but still allowed if your linking towards them as part of a discussion. Its kind of hard to debate something if you cant post where its coming from.
T

Tony, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but I have to disagree. Rob said and I quote ...

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So if the link leads outside of Military.com to a site that contains ads, solicitations, is unaffiliated, or you don't own... you should not post it.

Based upon what Rob said, I'm not sure I would post a link to an unaffiliated, advertiser supported site as it would be clearly in violation of the above.

I dont take it that your being argumentative at all. I specifically asked Rob about linking to an article your trying to discuss, and he said its fine as long as it wasnt on the "News" forum.

T