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This veteran took things into his own hands and basically said, enough is enough. Over the years I have heard so many stories from those of us who served. Does the Mexican merchant have the right to put his country's flag above the American Flag? Was the veteran justified in doing what he did? I would love to hear what the Military.Com membership thinks and feels.

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Old news! -Jeff
 
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If I met this guy I'd buy him a round! Nice work! Beer
 
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Old news. Same opinion. Hell yeah! Applause
 
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Is lack of flag protocol a crime? If not the guy is guilty of mal damage.
 
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Hooligan.. Half the people who work for the place are probably illegal so who is going to complain.
 
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I would love to see someone try to prosecute this guy for Mal Damage not because he is guilty of it but because it would reaffirm the fact that NO ONE gets to fly any FLAG above the U.S. in America and I think it would be a instant loss of a job or re-election for any DA dumb enough for trying. Except of course in Mexico but who cares what they think. If they want to fly their flag above the U.S. Flag then they can GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!!!!!
 
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Just a bit of a reminder on flag protocol: Neither flag is to be above the other, no matter where it is. They are to be at the same hieght.

And yes - I'll buy him a beer, wouldn't think of buying anything at that place, and if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I'll chip in a fin!
 
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Wasn't this posted six months ago on some other board?? Find something original to stir hatred up.
 
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Wasn't this posted six months ago on some other board?? Find something original to stir hatred up.


LOL...This think had been lying dead for the past 2+ weeks and your bump it up to the top.
 
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Ok, I hear you all and by no means I think a foreign flag should be above our flag. However, unless it is a violation of a "law", there is nothing you or I can do. We can't pick and choose what laws we want to apply. That's what makes this country the best in the world. Well, with it comes of this stuff. No different than OJ walking as a free man years ago. Our system failed, but nevertheless, is probably the best judicial system in the world. No one said it had to be perfect. No one said our laws have to be perfect...just the best. So, until our elected law makers make it a law, flying a foreign flag over an American flag under this circumstance, will need to be tolerated. With that said, contact your congressman or senator.
 
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Ok, I hear you all and by no means I think a foreign flag should be above our flag. However, unless it is a violation of a "law", there is nothing you or I can do.


It is against the law. 4 USC. The exceptions that I know is when a US military facility is on foreign soil, then both flags are at equal height.
 
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Joe - check out Sect 7 g of your reference. As I stated, when two national colors are displayed at the same time - they are at the same hieght. No need to be at a military base on foriegn soil.
 
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The only flag that I know of that can be flown above our flag is the Church Pennant. The Federal Flag Code (FFC) has some great info in there.
 
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I think this applies only to government property. Not knowing the details of this case, I understood that this is a merchant who displayed the Mexican flag above our flag on his private property...his place of business. 4 USC is not applicable on this case.
 
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I think this applies only to government property. Not knowing the details of this case, I understood that this is a merchant who displayed the Mexican flag above our flag on his private property...his place of business. 4 USC is not applicable on this case.


As a former member here once asked "Why don't
Coasties READ" If you had read section c you would have seen it state quite clearly that it applies to "any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof" I don't see where it say anything about being only for Bases, it's for anywhere in the US. I am surprised the Vet didn't beat the crap out of this ******* for flying the flag of that 3rd world shithole over the US flag.
 
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I think this applies only to government property. Not knowing the details of this case, I understood that this is a merchant who displayed the Mexican flag above our flag on his private property...his place of business. 4 USC is not applicable on this case.


If 4 USC isn't applicable, neither is 14 USC because the boarding officers would have zero authority. You can't have USC's applicable in one case and not the other.
 
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Mighty Z,

Yes, your correct. The only one I experienced was the US and Italian flags flying at equal heights.

The Flags at the United Nations in NYC is also a good example of national ensigns flying at the same height.
 
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Nope, sorry, not that I agree. But on my private property I can fly any flag or any flag over the US flag that I feel like it. Not that I would ever do, but that is the fact. It's MY PRIVATE property. And if someone was to try to cut it or remove it, I can exercise my rights to defend my property against a trespasser. They will meet one of "my little friends."
 
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Keko - that is an absurd arguement. The law does not stop applying on private property!

Now - you'll note there is no real punishment provision in that law. It was only a feel good law for the folks that wrote it.

Joe - you noticed I am sure that there are actually special provisions for the UN. Instead of our taking the place of honor (ie Rank on Right), it fall in the formation in alphabetical order.
 
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