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Anyone have any more information about the nonrate that was beaten and raped by a shipmate and the Coast Guard turned their back on the victim? I turned on the radio this afternoon in my car and only heard the last piece of her interview but was impress that she started an organization to help victims who been raped in the military from her barracks room while she was still on active duty.

I am interested in speaking to her for a book I am writing about females in the military. thank you in advance.
 
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I would hope no one here would give you that level of personal information.

If you are that interested contact the radio station. I'm sure her name was associated with the broadcast.
 
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I hope that you write some good thing, too. There are many great stories about women in the military… many provided by my mother-in-law! A great place to start or get more ideas is at the Women’s Memorial in DC. There are lots of great memories there.
 
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Anyone have any more information about the nonrate that was beaten and raped by a shipmate and the Coast Guard turned their back on the victim? I turned on the radio this afternoon in my car and only heard the last piece of her interview but was impress that she started an organization to help victims who been raped in the military from her barracks room while she was still on active duty.

I am interested in speaking to her for a book I am writing about females in the military. thank you in advance.


Can your book include a chapter on women who falsely accuse their shipmates and how they were held accountable? I have serious doubts a non rate was raped and her command turned their back on her as she claims. A CO/OINC would loose their command in a second for something like that. Just my politically incorrect thoughts. A little Duke Lacross aggrivation coming forth there.

I agree with the others, if your going to write, write about how ladies became a part of the team.

Either way, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out she was from CG Station Burlington VT, and posted her entire story on stopmilitaryrape.org, which is a Boston based organization and probably the same organization she started. Interesting to note that it just so happens to be where you hail from.

She claims the CG discharged her because she was raped and that being raped made her ineligible for worldwide deployment. Anyone know if the CG discharges members after being raped?

Not trying to be cruel here, but the CG has a very well established sexual assault program at the areas, and I would have to ask if she used it. You can email me at aloconte@yahoo.com if you have any questions.

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T.. I know of 2 male members who this happened too. During the investigation and up till the member was going to mast, BOTH females fesses up that it was all a lie. One, to get back at the guy for not wanting to sleep with her. The other, she was ticked off at another female who like said male and wanted to get back at her. Not a darn thing was EVER done to these 2. But the males had to carry this around for a long time and one was married. Almost ended his marriage.

Now to the poster.. you come on here with no name trolling for one story. I'm sure you have no intentions of just doing a story with RAPE in general or you could have stated so. I'm sure the recent incident where a MALE was raped by another MALE might not fall into your adgenda or script so pardon me if I see this as a one sided event. I have nothing against your story in general or the information you seek. But, this is NOT the place to get it. You can go over the PA section, ask where you can TRY and get this info or apply for it under the FOIA at your local PD.. oh, that's right, that info is privileged. As for women, I have nothing but admiration for those in the military and women in general. I've been married to one for 25 years and my daughter is my princess of which my universe revolves who can do no wrong,(but I have 2 boys too) but I don't like where you might be going with this and that it could lead to the wrong direction. Please read the TOS because if you cross the line (or anyone else). You and this thread is done. I would suggest if ANYone has anything for this person, to deal with it via PM.

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I agree. I tried to be a little unbiased, but after reading the story posted on that site, it reflects EXTREMELY poorly on the CG and is way over the top. It doesnt reflect anything remotely close to how the CG addresses such a serious offense. Not saying I dont believe the member wasnt raped, but I do find it damn near impossible to believe some of the stuff written there.

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Who knows what is true and what isn't. But I don't find her story that unheard of. She describes herself as the "outcast" at the station, we have all seen these types both male and female, and we all know how those in the "Command Rate" can treat these types of people with their vast leadership capabilities. I'm not so sure why you have a hard time believing that those at a Station would not pick and torment a weaker person, and then not believe her when she had real problems. Again, I'm not sure I believe it all, but somewhere in there is probably some truths.
 
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I'm pretty sure the young lady in question has posted, on the veterans benefits board. If it is the same person she claims (I found no reason to doubt her) to be rated 100% for PTSD/MST by the VA.
 
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But I don't find her story that unheard of. She describes herself as the "outcast" at the station, we have all seen these types both male and female, and we all know how those in the "Command Rate" can treat these types of people with their vast leadership capabilities. I'm not so sure why you have a hard time believing that those at a Station would not pick and torment a weaker person, and then not believe her when she had real problems.


Sounds like you have never been in a command cadre position before. I dont find parts of her story hard to believe, but I do find it hard to believe that her command, ISC Boston, the Academy, and CGIS treated her the way she says.

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Now to the poster.. you come on here with no name trolling for one story


TC1 -- has the TOS changed? you make reference to NO NAME as tho thats a requirement to ask for information.. also.. had he not added the information on writing a book, would his inquiry then been valid? Quite frankly, I'm not sure how adding that information disqualified it in any regard..

[QUOTE]Sounds like you have never been in a command cadre position before. I dont find parts of her story hard to believe, but I do find it hard to believe that her command, ISC Boston, the Academy, and CGIS treated her the way she says.
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You don't need to be part of a command cadre to read about many instances where the reporting person's command has dropped the ball..hopefully thats not the case here but its certainly not beyond the realm of possibility..
 
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When I was the lead moderator a person registered on the forums claiming to be the victim in this case. The screen name was offensive and after discussing this issue with the individual and Vince Patton corresponding with her as well we asked her to change her screen name to something less offensive and tell her story - I don't ever recall seeing the story being told after that.

Rape of women, and in some cases men, in the military and the ensuing cover ups that occur is a reality. Even though we have advanced all the way to 2008 it still happens and is swept under the rug. Although soliciting the name and address over the internet is wrong; giving it out if one knew it is even more wrong.
 
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By my count she had contact with SEVEN different commands regarding this incident. I find it hard to believe that SEVEN different commands would jeapordize themselves by doing what she claims they did. Just my opinion! -Jeff
 
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[QUOTE]Now to the poster.. you come on here with no name trolling for one story


TC1 -- has the TOS changed? you make reference to NO NAME as tho thats a requirement to ask for information.. also.. had he not added the information on writing a book, would his inquiry then been valid? Quite frankly, I'm not sure how adding that information disqualified it in any regard..

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Sounds like you have never been in a command cadre position before. I dont find parts of her story hard to believe, but I do find it hard to believe that her command, ISC Boston, the Academy, and CGIS treated her the way she says.
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You don't need to be part of a command cadre to read about many instances where the reporting person's command has dropped the ball..hopefully thats not the case here but its certainly not beyond the realm of possibility..


Why no Ben, it has not. And the issue is trolling or did you miss that part? She/He is asking for sensitive information that should not be posted much less requested. It is pretty well covered, so, you might want to.. well on second thought, let me post it for you:
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Now, that was just the MAIN part that I figured I would point out. I also think you will find listed a part about benefiting at mil.com's (aka you as a member) expense. The person is up front about writing a book. Now, had they said FREE book, then that portion wouldn't be in violation. But the parts I pointed out is enough to toss up a flag and warn all those posing and answering to these kinds of requests that they need to walk a fine line here. Protecting the victim and the accused. I would think if this person "heard" something on the radio, they would call the radio station if they were interested. Call the local PD.. oops, there's that rape victim rights thing again.. no info there. Or go through the proper channels. Why would a complete stranger seek and find Fredsplace and come here asking for this kind of stuff out right. Had they made up some email address and provided that for info, this might fly. But they didn't so it's my place (and job) to step in and say something. Now, do you understand where I'm coming from, rather you agree or not, you need to take a step back and look at the whole picture here. But Nobodyaskedmebut pretty much covered it in his last remark.
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While I think that some of her story is a littel shakey. It's naive to think that none of her story happened. Seriously, I love the Coast Guard but let's face it, the Guard has some dirt bags. I've seen Coastie steal from other Coasties. I've seen Coastie sleep with other Coastie's wives. And a list of other things that are against the core values. Not of all the incidents were (this is all just my opinion nothing more) properly addressed by the respective commands. Did ALL of this woman's story happen, I don't think so. Did ALL of this woman's story NOT happen, I don't think so.
Sorry about bringing this thread back to the top of the list but there it is.
 
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