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On Friday, April 11, 2008, the USS Typhoon was approached to within 200 yards by a small Iranian craft, outside Iranian territorial waters. According to Associated Press reports, the Typhoon fired a flare as a warning, then continued on its course without further incident. This is the second such incident that has occurred between US Navy ships and Iranian craft this year[1].

See also link http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080411173322.9r2gtvnm&show_article=1

How much longer will it be before our own CG WPB's are approached in the same manner?

Without benefit of all of the same offensive capabilities as the Navy PC's, my concern is will the outcome be the same?

I wonder if the Iranians are trying to instigate a Gulf of Tonkin style reaction?
 
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I don't put anything past them. They are fighting a war against the world..
 
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How much longer will it be before our own CG WPB's are approached in the same manner?

Without benefit of all of the same offensive capabilities as the Navy PC's, my concern is will the outcome be the same?

I wonder if the Iranians are trying to instigate a Gulf of Tonkin style reaction?


I agree regarding our white hulls over there but isn't the typhoon one of ours? Or is the navy operating it?
 
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Navy with a CG LEDET onboard. They have approached the 110's and ran just like they did here. This is not the first time they have approached a Navy PC either. Its only a matter of time until they get too close and suffer the consequences
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TYPHOON is a Patrol Coastal being operated by the Navy. The Coast Guard does have a number of PCs leased to us by the Navy, but none of them are in the Middle East.

PCs out there have their own boarding teams.
 
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I don't know if we gave them back, but as of 2002 we had at least 2 of that class under our (CG) responsibility. I could swear the "Typhoon" was one of ours.
 
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Its only a matter of time until they get too close and suffer the consequences


I think that's what the Iranians are banking on, having the U.S. fire the first shot.
 
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I don't know if we gave them back, but as of 2002 we had at least 2 of that class under our (CG) responsibility. I could swear the "Typhoon" was one of ours.


Chief45,

As I noted on another "board": The USCG is currently operating PCs Tempest, Shamal, Monsoon, Zephyr & Tornado; but not the Typhoon. The Typhoon has been based in Bahrain since 2004. The USCG evaluated the Thunderbolt for a short time as well.



Sources: Navy Times

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FYI: The PC-1's over there (four, I believe) are Navy owned and Navy crewed. However, they work for Commodore, PATFOR SWA (USCG).

As to the original question, this issue has been hashed and rehashed (not that ever stopped anyone on this site!). The CG operates on a different footing over there. I suppose the best way to explain it would be if you have two people walking down a dark alley, and one is alert the other shuffling along, which one is likely to get robbed? Is it possible the alert person will meet with some foul fate? Sure.

There's a certain BM2, USCG which stared down the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (almost exact same situation), and the IRG backed down.

Our guys know what they are doing. Is it dangerous? Sure. Can they get hit? Of course they can. Are our guys (and gals) better prepared to defend, protect, respond to a situation like this? You bet your bottom dollar it is!
 
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"How much longer will it be before our own CG WPB's are approached in the same manner?"

They did it to BOUTWELL in 2003 right after the war started- sent us to GQ, literally, and after that they tried it again a couple times. I can only assume they've been doing it all along.
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Did you know a Croy Norris? He was on the Boutwell about that time.
 
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Not ringing any bells, what rate?
 
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Ladies and Gentleman

Please watch your response to this post. As much, as I'm against censorship. I'm also worried about possible OPSEC, and freedom of information act violations.

I'm not sure if I see possible violations. But please be careful...
 
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Actually if I remember correctly they have come close before as well as approaching the oil platforms to get a rise out of us. There was an incident when I was underway where a small boat entered into the exclusion zone and was making a beeline towards the paltform. They constantly looked back at us and saw us in pursuit. They changed course at the last minute apparently realizing that we weren't serious about stopping them.
 
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Ladies and Gentleman

Please watch your response to this post. As much, as I'm against censorship. I'm also worried about possible OPSEC, and freedom of information act violations.

I'm not sure if I see possible violations. But please be careful...


Yeah, wouldn't want to read it here first before seeing it on CNN's ticker.. Roll Eyes
 
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I'm not sure if I see possible violations. But please be careful...


HILLARIOUS

If your not sure if you see OPSEC violoations, then your obviously not qualifed to call people out on what they post.
 
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Why is it whenever I read someone calling "OPSEC! OPSEC!" on these boards I get an image of Barny Fife saying "Nip it! Nip it!"?
 
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Actually if I remember correctly they have come close before as well as approaching the oil platforms to get a rise out of us. There was an incident when I was underway where a small boat entered into the exclusion zone and was making a beeline towards the paltform. They constantly looked back at us and saw us in pursuit. They changed course at the last minute apparently realizing that we weren't serious about stopping them.



We werent serious about stopping them???? Why do you say that?
 
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Maybe they were there as window dressing only, or perhaps short timers not in any hurry to engage the enemy?

Peace,
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I can say that during my time there, we were serious about stopping any credible threats to the platforms..... We were not "window dressing" or "in no hurry to engage the enemy" and I do find that to be an insult to our men and women who are out there doing the job. I don't think there are any who take it lightly.
 
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