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Originally posted by SOULARFITNESS:
.... i am against running, where do you run on a 25, or cutter or airframe?

If I had a dime for every time I've heard someone use this excuse. You're right, you don't run on a 25, cutter, or airframe. The run test has nothing to do with seeing if you can run a mile and a half. The run is used to test your endurance/lung capacity. That's why you have a choice of running or swimming. It's a simple test that can be done pretty much anywhere without needing any specialized equipment. So now that you know, you can stop using that excuse.

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Originally posted by duckcop:

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Originally posted by SOULARFITNESS:
.... i am against running, where do you run on a 25, or cutter or airframe?

If I had a dime for every time I've heard someone use this excuse. You're right, you don't run on a 25, cutter, or airframe. The run test has nothing to do with seeing if you can run a mile and a half. The run is used to test your endurance/lung capacity. That's why you have a choice of running or swimming. It's a simple test that can be done pretty much anywhere without needing any specialized equipment. So now that you know, you can stop using that excuse.

I hate running. I failed the run in BO school by 12 seconds and they sent me home. Its a mutual hate relationship. It hates me, and I hate it. Its embarrassing, I can leg press 700, but cant run anywhere to save my life.

T

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If it's sold in a GNC, especially one on a base, it more than likely OK.

...the folks at Traverse City may chuckle at this since someone just found a BANNED SUNSTANCE for sale attheir exchange! (The one banned substance actually put on paper on an ALCOAST)

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:

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If it's sold in a GNC, especially one on a base, it more than likely OK.

...the folks at Traverse City may chuckle at this since someone just found a BANNED SUNSTANCE for sale attheir exchange! (The one banned substance actually put on paper on an ALCOAST)

Let me guess, Hemp oil.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:

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If it's sold in a GNC, especially one on a base, it more than likely OK.

...the folks at Traverse City may chuckle at this since someone just found a BANNED SUNSTANCE for sale attheir exchange! (The one banned substance actually put on paper on an ALCOAST)

Who can you trust anymore??

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Originally posted by duckcop:

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Originally posted by SOULARFITNESS:
.... i am against running, where do you run on a 25, or cutter or airframe?

If I had a dime for every time I've heard someone use this excuse. You're right, you don't run on a 25, cutter, or airframe. The run test has nothing to do with seeing if you can run a mile and a half. The run is used to test your endurance/lung capacity. That's why you have a choice of running or swimming. It's a simple test that can be done pretty much anywhere without needing any specialized equipment. So now that you know, you can stop using that excuse.

Your right, only problem is my unit doesnt beleive in that, we run run some more then run again, when and if we do the test i am one of the top swimmers, we also have guys who can do the run but and i dont know still cant swim, its to the point that if we swim we have to wear our pfd's. pretty sad. our unit pt's 3 times a week active duty, rserves 1 every 6 mnth. i would have have proposed more swimming since your defiently prob going to end up in the drink one day.

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Originally posted by Mightyz90_93:

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If it's sold in a GNC, especially one on a base, it more than likely OK.

...the folks at Traverse City may chuckle at this since someone just found a BANNED SUNSTANCE for sale attheir exchange! (The one banned substance actually put on paper on an ALCOAST)

to a drive to keywest this weekend and went to sigbee navy exchange, wow my eyes lit up when i saw no one but every supplement i use at the exchange, they had the complete animal products line, m stak, mstak 2 gh product, test, uniliver. kinda of made my day, i was told by a fellow coastie that we cant take the test or stak but yet i can by it at the navy exchange who prob does more testing than the cg will ever do. so i am happy with my new can of stak, i cant wait in 3 weeks i am going to do the animal test.

OK,

Dont see anything in the animal stak that would be alarming however why not go "old school":

doing things like regular protein powder, multivitamins and fish oil daily? Eating 6 healthy meals a day, etc...That's always worked awesome for me, I feel good, look good and save money by not buying junk I dont need. I'll go out on the limb and say about the only tried and true supplement that's lasted over the years has been creatine. My suggestion would be to dial it back a bit and take a close look at what your buying, what your goals are and what your plans are to make those goals happen. Over the last 20 years I've been lifting and building I ended up coming back to the basics, because they work and will continue to work long after the supplements disappear from the market and the money disappears from your wallet. Just my .02 cents

By going old school, you could also save some money and buy a new keyboard that has a Shift key that works.

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Originally posted by duckcop:
By going old school, you could also save some money and buy a new keyboard that has a Shift key that works.

Ok, that was funny.

The CG uses the same list as the NCAA.
If you look up the Banned substance list from the NCAA you'll see the whole list.

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The CG uses the same list as the NCAA.
If you look up the Banned substance list from the NCAA you'll see the whole list.

If you read all the posts on page one you will see not everyone agrees with that statement, including an HSC.

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Originally posted by mrdupes:
The CG uses the same list as the NCAA.
If you look up the Banned substance list from the NCAA you'll see the whole list.

And that would be incorrect since I am pretty sure the CG isnt punishing anyone for drinking coffee. Cite the instruction to support please.

T

I dont think we will ever see a difinitive list just because their is so many varients to each different supp and each one has one or two different ingredients.

sidenote: I would be more than happy to discuss lifting or fitness offline if anyone is interested, it's a passion of mine and I'm always for sharring new ideas, look me up in global if your interested.

I will never understand this whole supplement issue. I have an Exercise Physiology Degree and have been working out since I was old enough to grab a dumb bell and have been taking supplements just as long. As far as supplements are concerned they work, but there should be a more concrete list than the "ncaa" ban list. The only things on this list that will show up on a urine test are steroids and still a lot of those will not show up on a urine test. The urine test will really only pick up marijauna,cocaine,etc. Blood work is pretty much the only way to prove someone is taking steriods, but personally I would not want to take a chance on my career b/c of something I bought at the GNC that some how made me pop positive for steriods. As much as I believe supplements work and that this is one of those hypocritcal rules that irritate me because I can go out and smoke my lungs black or drink my liver yellow but i can't take hydroxycut, creatine, or animal stack b/c "we" think it's bad for you it just does not make logical sense to me.

I'm rambling sorry about that. But basically I agree with those that say there should be a more concrete list. The higher ups that make these rules need to do some research and come up with there own list and not just say "well this ncaa list thing looks good lets just copy that." This is tedering on the brink of laziness. If a regulation is going to be made more research should be put into it and it should not just be copy and pasted from somewhere else. This is just my opinion anyways.

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Originally posted by mrdupes:
The CG uses the same list as the NCAA.
If you look up the Banned substance list from the NCAA you'll see the whole list.

As several others have said, at BEST, they follow the NCAA STEROID list, not the substance list. Which is funny, becuase all they have is a substance list now. (note: that I could find)