With tensions with leftist gov'ts of Ecuador, Bolivia and Venezuela rattling their sabers with pro-USA gov'ts of Mexico and Colombia, this new ocean service may pose a threat to our Southern border.

For a discussion point: If it was known that Iran was trading in "Articles of War" with Cuba or Venezuela could the CG board the vessel if it travelled in the Straits of Florida or near Puerto Rico or US Virgin Islands? In addition, could our ally, UK, equally suspend innocent passage claims if the suspect vessel travelled near a UK related island?

http://www.americanshipper.com/SNW_story.asp?news=93456
Date Posted: 5/12/2008 9:45:15 AM

The Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines (IRISL) will this week start a weekly service connecting the Middle East country with ports in Europe, Venezuela and Cuba, reports Iran's Mehr News. Saeed Meghdadi, IRISL's Europe line department manager, was quoted as saying the service will start from Bandar Abbas on May 16 before calling Malta, Barcelona, Havana and Puerto Cabello. “This line was initiated in accordance to the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran for supporting and expanding non-oil exports and in response to the numerous requests made by merchants,” Meghdadi said. (AmShip)

Monroe Doctrine does not prevent trade, it says, basically, that any attempt by an outside power that tries to forcefully establish control anywhere in N or S America is considered an attack.

Remember that USSR had troops ("advisors") in Cuba for many years and no attack.

The lawyers of internaltional law would have to comment on if they were bring war materials into the area ala Cuban Missle Crisis.

I thought the UN and USA along with many other statehoods had long standing trade sanctions against Iran and their tyranical radical state.

If the US had sanctions against Iran, that would make them acceptable to Cuba.

I probably did not make myself clear.

You mentioned ships bringing material into Cuba, but as far as I could read from your post, it was not proved the ships contained war material. If, as in the Cuban Missle Crisis, it could be proved war materials from another country, then it is a different story. (As I mentioned.) In the Missle Crisis, it was proved that the USSR had not only established missile sites, but were bringing additional missles and troops to man the sites. Then, that could bring into play the Monroe Doctrine, at least that was the Kennedy administration's take on the situation.

I believe the USSR did keep some "advisors" in Cuba after the missile crisis, but the US did not invade once the missiles were take out of the country.

If there is no proof of war materials, then you would need a decision by someone versed in international law. Again, trade does not fall under the Monroe Doctrine.

Another feature that might come into play is the US embargo of Cuba, but many countries already trade with Cuba, so that leaves that avenue out, unless a lawyer can make a case otherwise.

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Originally posted by DLNoble:. . .You mentioned ships bringing material into Cuba, but as far as I could read from your post, it was not proved the ships contained war material.

I never mentioned ships or trade.

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Originally posted by DLNoble:. . . Again, trade does not fall under the Monroe Doctrine.

That depends on what they are trading in.

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Originally posted by DLNoble:. . . Another feature that might come into play is the US embargo of Cuba, but many countries already trade with Cuba, so that leaves that avenue out, unless a lawyer can make a case otherwise.

The Monroe Doctrine, The Constitution and any of our US Laws are/says/means and applies to - exactly what any five of the nine old geezers on the SCOTUS says - Nothing more, nothing less and nothing else.

Coast Guard Will Board Ships From Iran
Another Economic Pressure Point on Tehran
By ELI LAKE, Staff Reporter of the Sun
June 16, 2008

WASHINGTON — America's economic war against Iran is now targeting the Islamic Republic's trade routes and shipping.

After a little-noticed order, the Coast Guard has begun searching any shipping vessel that has docked at an Iranian port within five port calls of coming to American shores. The new Department of Homeland Security regulation places Iran on a list with seven other nations singled out by the Coast Guard because of lax antiterrorism controls.

The new measure against Iran is in keeping with President Bush's strategy of using financial pressure on the Islamic Republic to change its behavior on nuclear and terrorism issues. The Treasury Department has pressed the international body that monitors money laundering to issue circulars warning the world's banks against doing business with Iranian ones. Also, major Iranian banks have been designated as supporters of terrorism and rogue proliferation, creating a disincentive for European and Japanese banks to issue those banks credits.

The designation of Iran on the Coast Guard's terrorism list is likely to punish any major shipping lines that still include Iran on their trade routes to America. Coast Guardsmen will seek to verify that the ships that have berthed in Iran had a security plan and arranged for armed men to guard the ship around the clock while at port.

Vessels that visited Iran during their last five port calls "will be boarded at sea by the Coast Guard to ensure the vessel took the required actions," a Coast Guard Port Security Advisory says.

The director of government affairs for the World Shipping Council, Charles Diorio, said the new measure from the Coast Guard would make it more difficult for shipping lines that did business in Iran. "This is an added hurdle, or concern if you have a ship coming from Iran in the last five ports," he said. "The Coast Guard boards ships for a variety of reasons. There are a litany of issues. Any time you have a ship held out from a boarding, you start to miss work shifts with the longshoreman, there are all sorts of operational impacts, you are delayed a day. These things have a cascade effect."

In 2000, President Clinton lifted trade restrictions on Iranian carpets, pistachios, and caviar in a bid to create an opening with the government of President Khatami. Iran's chief export is crude petroleum, but almost all of it is shipped to East Asia.

The vice president of the American Association of Port Authorities, Susan Monteverde, said that the new Coast Guard measures applied to Iran put it on a list of other suspect countries that includes Syria.

"This is what they do for any kind of suspect port from a country of concern, they will go ahead and increase the inspections. When they come to the United States, the Coast Guard has a boarding party, they check the identifications, the paperwork, if they suspect a problem they may inspect a specific piece of cargo," Ms. Monteverde said.

"The Coast Guard will be looking at those vessels," she added. "It's going to slow things down."

Mr. Bush, in Europe, highlighted Iranian intransigence toward a proposed American-European offer to lift sanctions and provide nuclear cooperation in exchange for Iran promising not to enrich uranium and continue work on a heavy water plutonium enrichment facility.

On Saturday, speaking with President Sarkozy of France, Mr. Bush said, "I am disappointed that the leaders rejected this generous offer out of hand. It is an indication to the Iranian people that their leadership is willing to isolate them further. Our view is we want the Iranian people to flourish and to benefit."

The New York Sun reported last week that one possible new measure being considered in pressuring Iran is to encourage the exporters of refined petroleum to end their deliveries to Iran.

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