Has anyone else noticed or wondered why, when ROB starts a topic, regardless of where it is started, it somehow remains on our Point/CounterPoint board? I bet the "Breaking Ice" thread is not on the Army board..
The two threads I am talking about are: BAD VOODOO'S WAR & Five Year Anniversary. They are also the only ones on the entire page that have one of those little arrows just before the topic name...
Personally I get tired of seeing them.. Very seldom do the Coasties post on them. When you do go to them, and click on Point/CounterPoint, it takes you to somewhere other than the CG Point/CounterPoint.
Ok, I have vented... does anyone else feel the way I do or am I out in left field... I guess I should have maid this a poll, but I didn't...
Wray - the "arrow" indicates that it is a shortcut to the location where the actual thread resides. (the actual thread it was posted on)
I believe the purpose of these posts are to inform readers of posts that may be of interest to board readers that may not normally visit those discussions. For example, the VOODOO thread is about a documentary on the accomplishments of the National Guard. If you would not normally visit the Guard/Reserve discussions then you wouldn't know...I am a history buff, especially about the military during WWII (most of the books I read as a teenager were WWII related).
Wray, I know that these types of threads usually are removed after a certain amount of time; are these posts really the issue?
The issue is that Rob uses his position of preeminence to post threads that he feels warrant more exposure to the membership-at-large, and that the subject raised is of great, across-the-board interest; I believe he thinks his judgement of what may be of great interest trumps the normal irritation of seeing the same thing trumpeted to a reader each day.
Now, I capitulate that he is "the hog with the big nutz" on the forum - he can do what he wishes. But personally, I believe he fails to consider two things: the irritation of having an active screen fall continuously, by default, to his posts, and the personal anathema many of us hold towards Rob himself.
Regarding the first, the way I surf the board, simply put, pops the "Coast Guard Discussions" up every time I start or finish perusing a thread. That's the way I like to do it. But the end result is that I am constantly besieged by whatever Rob has deemed so worthy that all must first pass on his contribution ... sort of like an optional toll booth; regardless, you still have to stop. Irritating.
The second issue is much more far-reaching. I hold this Rob Rodriguez in deep disdain. My opinion of his judgemental traits and management skills, as well as historical actions fall well below scurrilous. Most of the time, it's a non-issue; he's not around, we continue to interact and enjoy rapport - no big deal. But the last year, when I log on and run immediately into his name plasted in multiple bold threads, and ALWAYS at the very top - frankly, that just chaps my azz. What is patently obvious - I'm not alone on this.
So, yeah, I'd like to see him leave the klieg lights off his illlustrious name for a while.
+1 for Wray / SociallyAutistic. If I wanted to read whats on other boards I would go to those other boards. I come here to read these boards and what the people here have to say not to be sent to another boards because they think it important for me to know. Of course I will say it first no one is making anyone click on them but they are annoying anyway. EM1
Abuse of power, plain and simple. Rob is using his position as a moderator to post links to non-CG threads. Wasn't somebody suspended recently for posting a link to another board? Although the link he posted is to a Military.com board, should not the same philosophy apply. I did see the show, prior to his posting the link. Although an interesting show, it is not something that should be posted here. For that matter, only CG moderators should be allowed to do anything to this board. People can hide behind the TOS, but what they are doing is wrong. Somehow we have lost our sense of fairness. Should any moderator care to discuss this issue in a fair and unbiased manner, please contact me.
Abuse of power, plain and simple. Rob is using his position as a moderator to post links to non-CG threads.
AT - don't even go there...I highly suspect that Rob probably receives instructions from on high on what to post...Don't shoot him, I suspect he is the messenger...What I am trying to say is let's keep this a civil discussion - like the boards are meant to be...
Guys it doesn't have anything to do with power or balls or anything like that. Instead of grousing about it in a forum, where eventually someone will say something they shouldn't I encourage you to e-mail Rob or Vince Patton; or even higher up the Mil.com chain. I know that they do listen...
Rob is the Forums Administrator - think HMFIC; SuperModerator. He has priveleges I will never even know exist; he has his reasons for referencing the posts; maybe you guys should aske him!
Pat - as long as those "envelopes" keep getting slid under my door...you should be ok!
MC is right. How many times have we seen topics moved because they have NOTHING to do with the Coast Guard and get moved to the soap box, techno thread or somewhere else. I would say, if anything, it's SPAM. No disrespect to those incountry or those who served. Not that it matters, I work with 2 NG guys, one already has been to IRAQ and back (2003-4) and I hold high respect for his job and duty. However, I have to say, when I read it, it was a little taken aback as to why it was there. Maybe those who don't go to the boards where it might get posted has a reason. So, why FORCE those who don't want to go hunting for posts like Robs? When the ADMIN guy posts something, do the mods loose the ability to MOVE it or are they afraid too? I don't know but it seems to me that in this case, the subj should be somewhere else then PCP because it is clear as a bell it has NOTHING to do with the Coast Guard. Maybe the reserves section? Just a thought.
Erik, No need to YELL........ Keep in mind this IS a site owned my Monster... I am just wondering if Rob is even aware of what he is doing..... Not everyone does.....(we are only their customers) .. certainly, you as a MED2, with a CPO wife realize that, right?
Please read Tim's post above.. particularly the BOLD part.
The issue is that Rob uses his position of preeminence to post threads that he feels warrant more exposure to the membership-at-large, and that the subject raised is of great, across-the-board interest; I believe he thinks his judgement of what may be of great interest trumps the normal irritation of seeing the same thing trumpeted to a reader each day.
Not only that but Rob decides who gets to play and who gets a time out based on his value system. Talk about censorship. This is censorship plus indoctrination. You have got to love it. It bothers me when people do things simply because they can.
cgrdcs, Ex_CG_GM, and Hooligan1790: The other night I had a nice phone call with Wray about this thread. Some of what I told Wray I will tell you now; (you can check with him if you want)
I am a volunteer moderator. Rob, Fred, Vince, or anyone within the Mil.com structure has never dictated to me what I should post, who should be censored, banned, or what thread should be eighty-sixed. We moderators have quite a bit of leeway in what we do. If the powers of the company told me to close, ban, or delete a thread I would tell them to do it themselves.
I also told Wray that I will do my best to make sure that this discussion can continue as long as it stays on topic and doesn't attack any messengers...no more warnings on that issue.
I know how many of you feel when it comes to the Coast Guard Discussion Boards; many of you have been around a long time, way back when Fred counted membership in the 100's. The discussions were different then; the forums almost felt like they were our own little on-line Coast Guard and almost no topic was taboo. Well guys, I know of no other way to say this - these are Discussion Boards, ultimately owned by Monster.com; the topics are Coast Guard Related. Like it or not the owners of the free website have a say about what is posted on their discussion boards. Guns USMilnet has managed to remain non-commercial, they are very fortunate that they can do; it is a good website, I belong there as well.
MilitaryAdvantage is the company that owns Military.com for Monster; seriously, if you do not like something, remember that chain of command thing? It works with them too; I know Wray (for one) has gone up the chain before...
Please keep the to the topic at hand, keep it civil, and talk on....
