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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Funny. Yes, Korn..paint the entire GOP over the actions of this one person..

In that case the Dem's would all be homosexual, pedophiles, flipfloppers, draft dodging, racist, muslim, community ogranizers.

At least he manned up and did the right thing by confessing, unlike some other politicians that had to be impeached or outted by the National Inquirer.

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
Done.


Next will be his emails that will be splashed and I am not sure why they are relevant to the public and how they were obtained.

Perhaps not relevant, but probably property of the citizens of SC, and subject to FOIA.

We watched the mayor of Detroit have thousands of his text messages published--electronic love notes; very graphic. He used a city pager, with an outdated technology that actually archived them, and thought he had some expectation of privacy.

Watch what you say and where you say it.

Gotta love the Patriot Act, eh Gunny? It's all fair game now.

Doubt it has anything to do with the patriot act.

Gubby accounts have always been public.

as far as these emails, looks like someone needs to be charged.

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Below are excerpts of e-mails, obtained by The State newspaper in December, between Gov. Mark Sanford's personal e-mail account and Maria, a woman in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

The guy is a Governor and should be well aware of the "rules" of the game. It not like he was some private citizen suddenly thrust into the public eye. He is a professional politician and is, therefore, subject to all the pitfalls of that profession. The only valid question is whether or not The Daily Show will do a parody of him to the tune Don't Cry for Me Arentina...

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oPWINVVEw"

Very True, but private emails are just that no matter who you are. If it isnt a criminal act then private emails are off limits,

Tell that to Kwame Kilpatrick, ex mayor of Detroit. He went to jail because of emails.

His were criminal acts.

Lets review Gov's who fell from crace.

McGayvy criminal, paying boysqueeze with taxpayer money for a position he wasnt qual'd for.

Sfister criminal, prosecuted people for wh_oring and was doing it himself on taxpaer expense.

Sanford, moral crime made the mistake of falling for a foreign chik and being a dumbazz.

Personal Emails come into play when its a criminal act, not moral crime.

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Cant spend Fathers Day wknd with your kids when you have been justif1ably kicked out of the house.

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Give me a break. Today's it's a Republican. Give it a week and they'll be a Democrat in the news for something just as wrong. Does anyone really doubt that?

Don

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Originally posted by 21yrsUSCGUSCS:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Give me a break. Today's it's a Republican. Give it a week and they'll be a Democrat in the news for something just as wrong. Does anyone really doubt that?

Don

Problem is that if that politician is from the Democratic Party they'll get a "Free Pass" by the msm. I say this, because of all the freebies that it gave Clinton over the years despite all his affairs.

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Sorry, but Hillary never played the victim. She used a bit of body language in a very few public appearances early on to show her disdain, then did what a very old school, traditionally conservative, foreverforbetterorforworse woman does...she got over it. Call her weak for standing by her man, but she didn't let his childish---allright, teenage---behaviour victimize her.

You assume that relationship was ever anything other then the power coupling it was/is.

How many time you think Bill has hit that..ever? 3? 4?

Get a life! Talk about revising history just because YOU dislike people. Do you really think that ANYONE thought Mr. Clinton was powerful at the time they got married?

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by adminnco1:

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
Done.


Next will be his emails that will be splashed and I am not sure why they are relevant to the public and how they were obtained.

Perhaps not relevant, but probably property of the citizens of SC, and subject to FOIA.

We watched the mayor of Detroit have thousands of his text messages published--electronic love notes; very graphic. He used a city pager, with an outdated technology that actually archived them, and thought he had some expectation of privacy.

Watch what you say and where you say it.

Gotta love the Patriot Act, eh Gunny? It's all fair game now.

Doubt it has anything to do with the patriot act.

Gubby accounts have always been public.

as far as these emails, looks like someone needs to be charged.

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Below are excerpts of e-mails, obtained by The State newspaper in December, between Gov. Mark Sanford's personal e-mail account and Maria, a woman in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

The guy is a Governor and should be well aware of the "rules" of the game. It not like he was some private citizen suddenly thrust into the public eye. He is a professional politician and is, therefore, subject to all the pitfalls of that profession. The only valid question is whether or not The Daily Show will do a parody of him to the tune Don't Cry for Me Arentina...

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oPWINVVEw"

Very True, but private emails are just that no matter who you are. If it isnt a criminal act then private emails are off limits,

NOT if sent using GOVERNMENT devices or accounts then they are part of the Public RECORD per the LAWS of most states.

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Originally posted by Kegler300:
At least he manned up and did the right thing by confessing, unlike some other politicians that had to be impeached or outted by the National Inquirer.

He did NOT confess he got CAUGHT, IMO mostly because he broke state rules and maybe laws by leaving the country without turning over power and was DELIBERATELY out of contact without turning over power.

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Originally posted by blackflagg509:

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Originally posted by 21yrsUSCGUSCS:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Give me a break. Today's it's a Republican. Give it a week and they'll be a Democrat in the news for something just as wrong. Does anyone really doubt that?

Don

Problem is that if that politician is from the Democratic Party they'll get a "Free Pass" by the msm. I say this, because of all the freebies that it gave Clinton over the years despite all his affairs.

The reason for going after THIS Pol and others like him is that he has made a career out of running on MORAL issues and ATTACKING others about morals.

The adultery, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily render him unfit to serve. The hypocrisy does though. He built his career on family values issues and called for other politicians who were adulterous to "do the honorable thing" and step down. As a Congressman he wagged his finger at Clinton over the Lewinsky affair and voted for the articles of impeachment. Now he should do the right thing and follow the rules he applies to everyone else.

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This is "very damaging stuff," Sanford declared at one point, when details of Clinton's conduct became known. "I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign)... I come from the business side," he said. "If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he'd be gone."

Time to go you little rascal.

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Originally posted by Kegler300:
At least he manned up and did the right thing by confessing, unlike some other politicians that had to be impeached or outted by the National Inquirer.

Actually, if I recall, he didn't "man up" at all. In fact, I remember how he was on a hiking trip, which he later back peddled and finally admitted he went to Argentina. Basically, he was caught, like many, with his pants down and then proceeded to tell the truth. After the fact I might add.

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Originally posted by 21yrsUSCGUSCS:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Give me a break. Today's it's a Republican. Give it a week and they'll be a Democrat in the news for something just as wrong. Does anyone really doubt that?

Don

Problem is that if that politician is from the Democratic Party they'll get a "Free Pass" by the msm. I say this, because of all the freebies that it gave Clinton over the years despite all his affairs.

The reason for going after THIS Pol and others like him is that he has made a career out of running on MORAL issues and ATTACKING others about morals.

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Originally posted by TheBerk:

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Originally posted by Kegler300:
At least he manned up and did the right thing by confessing, unlike some other politicians that had to be impeached or outted by the National Inquirer.

Actually, if I recall, he didn't "man up" at all. In fact, I remember how he was on a hiking trip, which he later back peddled and finally admitted he went to Argentina. Basically, he was caught, like many, with his pants down and then proceeded to tell the truth. After the fact I might add.

Just like Ensign who did not come forward with his indescretion until there was an attempt to blackmail him on the issue.

Went and looked back at the Edwards thread and amazingly the biggest Hypocricy screamers here were UA/AWOL from that thread. And the 1 that made a commit made in ref to McCain.

'http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/3160073491001/p/1'

I made a comment in regards to Edwards paying his wench for a job she wasnt qual'd for.

And yes, edwards ran on family values.

I dont care which party it is.

Senator Ensign and Governor Sanford both, during the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, demanded that President Clinton resign the Presidency because of his "immorality".

Notice how neither Senator Ensign or Governor Sanford haven't resigned their offices because of their "immorality".

If someone else cheats on their spouse, they're "immoral".

If you cheat on your spouse, you're not "immoral".

Hypocrisy?

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Cant spend Fathers Day wknd with your kids when you have been justif1ably kicked out of the house.

PUUULLEEEASE!! Give me a freakin break! I know you're from S.Corlina in all, but you need to face the fact. The governor screewed the pooch! He was suppose to take the boys to some type of religious retreat, but he flew 10,000 miles for a piece of @$$. I mean ...did he think he could just sneak back in the country like an Illegal alien (your favorite subject) He should have put on a sombrero, and cross the border near El Paso!! not fly in through Atlanta!!

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Senator Ensign and Governor Sanford both, during the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, demanded that President Clinton resign the Presidency because of his "immorality".

Notice how neither Senator Ensign or Governor Sanford haven't resigned their offices because of their "immorality".

If someone else cheats on their spouse, they're "immoral".

If you cheat on your spouse, you're not "immoral".

Hypocrisy?

Clinton: F'd around in the Oval office, Literally lied to the American people and under oath. Had a history of this behavior.

Sanford: Knew a women for awhile and recently nailed her. Didnt do it in the office. At the time he made comments about Clinton, Sanford was not doing this. Now if he condemns this behavior in the future he is definately hypocrti to the max. And didnt here him make any excuses yeterday unlike the former Prez. And Clint ran on family values too, btw.

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Cant spend Fathers Day wknd with your kids when you have been justif1ably kicked out of the house.

PUUULLEEEASE!! Give me a freakin break! I know you're from S.Corlina in all, but you need to face the fact. The governor screewed the pooch! He was suppose to take the boys to some type of religious retreat, but he flew 10,000 miles for a piece of @$$. I mean ...did he think he could just sneak back in the country like an Illegal alien (your favorite subject) He should have put on a sombrero, and cross the border near El Paso!! not fly in through Atlanta!!

Face the facts? what facts? he fugd up and I said he should resign. Said he did a stupid thing. But dim bulbs are making an issue out of fathers day, which is laughable especially from the party that supports fatherless attitudes. Oh, and that is btwn him and his children not the media and all the self appointed family advocay nimrods.


As far as illegals god you are ate up. He snuck in?. Gee, kind of hard to do when you have to leave and come in with a passport.

Take a deep breath and clean your moistened skivies will you.

I heard his apology. He sounded sincere and he took full responsibility for his actions.

Only time will tell if he learned from his error and if his family can heal. The wife and he were having issues and he fell into things because all he and the other gal wanted was someone to listen. That brought them close and mother nature took over from there.

We're all a lot closer to this indiscretion than people give credence too.

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Cant spend Fathers Day wknd with your kids when you have been justif1ably kicked out of the house.

PUUULLEEEASE!! Give me a freakin break! I know you're from S.Corlina in all, but you need to face the fact. The governor screewed the pooch! He was suppose to take the boys to some type of religious retreat, but he flew 10,000 miles for a piece of @$$. I mean ...did he think he could just sneak back in the country like an Illegal alien (your favorite subject) He should have put on a sombrero, and cross the border near El Paso!! not fly in through Atlanta!!

Face the facts? what facts? he fugd up and I said he should resign. Said he did a stupid thing. But dim bulbs are making an issue out of fathers day, which is laughable especially from the party that supports fatherless attitudes. Oh, and that is btwn him and his children not the media and all the self appointed family advocay nimrods.


As far as illegals god you are ate up. He snuck in?. Gee, kind of hard to do when you have to leave and come in with a passport.

Take a deep breath and clean your moistened skivies will you.

LOL No calm down buddy and stop being so sensitive. Did you read my comment? I said he should have sneaked back into the country!! He could have been the guy in the yellow shirt in the picture below!!

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Originally posted by samh32:

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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Cant spend Fathers Day wknd with your kids when you have been justif1ably kicked out of the house.

PUUULLEEEASE!! Give me a freakin break! I know you're from S.Corlina in all, but you need to face the fact. The governor screewed the pooch! He was suppose to take the boys to some type of religious retreat, but he flew 10,000 miles for a piece of @$$. I mean ...did he think he could just sneak back in the country like an Illegal alien (your favorite subject) He should have put on a sombrero, and cross the border near El Paso!! not fly in through Atlanta!!

Face the facts? what facts? he fugd up and I said he should resign. Said he did a stupid thing. But dim bulbs are making an issue out of fathers day, which is laughable especially from the party that supports fatherless attitudes. Oh, and that is btwn him and his children not the media and all the self appointed family advocay nimrods.


As far as illegals god you are ate up. He snuck in?. Gee, kind of hard to do when you have to leave and come in with a passport.

Take a deep breath and clean your moistened skivies will you.

LOL No calm down buddy and stop being so sensitive. Did you read my comment? I said he should have sneaked back into the country!! He could have been the guy in the yellow shirt in the picture below!!

Cool, scratch the reply for that one and the other 2 still apply

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Originally posted by Kegler300:
At least he manned up and did the right thing by confessing, unlike some other politicians that had to be impeached or outted by the National Inquirer.

Actually, if I recall, he didn't "man up" at all. In fact, I remember how he was on a hiking trip, which he later back peddled and finally admitted he went to Argentina. Basically, he was caught, like many, with his pants down and then proceeded to tell the truth. After the fact I might add.

Actually the local newspaper has had information for a while about a possible affair but did not publish it. While the Governor was "missing" his car was found at the airport and a report he was seen on a plane was given to the paper so a reporter was sent to the airport and greeted the Governor when he got off the plane. The Governor called the press conference a little while after being CAUGHT by the press.

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Originally posted by KoRnAdvocate:
He spent 5 days in Argentina crying? LMAO

No, he spent 5 days in Argentina getting his freak on. And over Father's Day weekend lol ya gotta love the GOP

Give me a break. Today's it's a Republican. Give it a week and they'll be a Democrat in the news for something just as wrong. Does anyone really doubt that?

Don

Yeah it's pretty insane. It's amazing that people actually equate morality to political parties.

I wonder if the good Governor will be brought up on charges?

SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.

SECTION 16-15-70. "Adultery" defined.

"Adultery" is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.


South Carolina Code of Laws

The e-mails could be used as evidence of the unlawful act.

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Originally posted by jdksfcret:
I wonder if the good Governor will be brought up on charges?

SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.

SECTION 16-15-70. "Adultery" defined.

"Adultery" is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.


South Carolina Code of Laws

The e-mails could be used as evidence of the unlawful act.

It was his personal email, not his official email. I wouldn't be surprised if who ever hacked it, get's busted.

LOL, trying to level criminal charges for Adultery is pizzing in the wind. If it was doable, most of our politicians to include a president would be in jail.

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Originally posted by jdksfcret:
I wonder if the good Governor will be brought up on charges?

SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.

SECTION 16-15-70. "Adultery" defined.

"Adultery" is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.


South Carolina Code of Laws

The e-mails could be used as evidence of the unlawful act.

It was his personal email, not his official email. I wouldn't be surprised if who ever hacked it, get's busted.

LOL, trying to level criminal charges for Adultery is pizzing in the wind. If it was doable, most of our politicians to include a president would be in jail.

His e-mail wasn't so personal. The newspaper that had them for six months says they came to them anonymously and they weren’t even sure of their authenticity right up until he was confronted by the reporter at the Atlanta Airport. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone close to him was the one who gave up the e-mails. If he was stupid enough to use state equipment to ‘publicly’ converse with the woman then he has no, none, nada expectation of privacy. He may very well have a private e-mail account, but if it’s on a government computer then he is up sheets creek and he doesn’t even have a canoe.

As far as the adultery charge, no doubt he has enough enemies that would bring the charges if they could. I’m inclined to think that the spouse would have to bring the charges to even make a case. But like they say, HELL HATH NO FURRY.....

Don't care which party they are from, these guy's are a bunch of bums who don't want to live by the rules, they just want to insure that we do.

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Originally posted by L0A1:

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Originally posted by jdksfcret:
I wonder if the good Governor will be brought up on charges?

SECTION 16-15-60. Adultery or fornication.

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court.

SECTION 16-15-70. "Adultery" defined.

"Adultery" is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either is lawfully married to some other person.


South Carolina Code of Laws

The e-mails could be used as evidence of the unlawful act.

It was his personal email, not his official email. I wouldn't be surprised if who ever hacked it, get's busted.

LOL, trying to level criminal charges for Adultery is pizzing in the wind. If it was doable, most of our politicians to include a president would be in jail.

Of course it could very well have been his wife, as part of HER having her husband investigated, who released the e-mails or he could have used his personal account froma state computer. One of the ways such e-mails are obtained is the spouse, as a joint owner of an account, requests the ISP to recover old e-mails from backup. In the real world it is VERY hard to (as a practical matter impossible if someone has legal access and will pay for the data searches and recovery) get rid of anything once it has been sent over the net.