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I certainly hope that you are not implying that I, in my position as an Election Specialist, would be lacking in honesty and integrity. You aren’t saying that are you transport?
 
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But of course not, I would imagine you practice the utmost in diligence in your job of training those officials.
 
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But of course not, I would imagine you practice the utmost in diligence in your job of training those officials.
Well, your "fox in the henhouse" comment says differently...
 
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FYI: In Indiana, you can get a state ID card for the sole purpose of voting......and it is free. I looked at some other states, thinking that maybe the cost was way out there for getting a state ID card. I know some seniors are on a very limited income..........in most states, it is under $20 and in some states, it is even free for the disabled and people 65 and older.
 
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If one is stopped on the streets by the cops, doesn't one have to provide proof of identification?

One may be asked, but you're not required to provide it, and it's not considered unlawful to refuse or to not be able to furnish ID on request.
At least this was so in 2005, which was the last time I attended a training on such issues.
 
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If one is stopped on the streets by the cops, doesn't one have to provide proof of identification?


NO!!! BY GOD NO!!!!!

And hopefully we NEVER WILL!!

The day we have to "present our papers" to the police when they "stop us on the street", WILL BE THE OFFICIAL DAY THAT THE NEO-CONS HAVE DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY!

Think about what the heck your statement implies. If I'm walking down the street, and a law enforcement official "asks me to present ID", I'd better have the right to say, not only "No", but HELL NO!!

What the hell kind of country are you trying to create?
 
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Create?? I ain't creating nothing, just asked a question and you went into your liberal apoplexy. Chill out dude, before you stroke out. With vagrancy laws and all, I know you can be detained for not providing proof of ID. I'd like to see you get on base without showing ID.
 
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Create?? I ain't creating nothing, just asked a question and you went into your liberal apoplexy. Chill out dude, before you stroke out. With vagrancy laws and all, I know you can be detained for not providing proof of ID. I'd like to see you get on base without showing ID.

But base regulations are different, as are private institutions. And if there is some evidence that you have committed an offense, police can detain you, but there isn't a law that permits an officer from detaining someone for going on a morning jog and leaving their ID at home.
 
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If one is stopped on the streets by the cops, doesn't one have to provide proof of identification?
No. However, they can take you in until your identity can be verified if there cause


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I never met your grandmother. How would I know the person who said she was her, really was? Should we let someone who said they were her vote?

She does sound like a good, industrious woman. She also sounds like the type would not whine about it, she would have gone and got the ID and voted.


Pretty easy for her to take a copy of the deed to her house, or her utility bills, register under penalty of law, and "oh by the way", have them look at her registration for the past 50 years. YUP! By George I think you're catching on! Applause

The bottom line is that this is going to impact the elderly, the sick, the medically handicapped, women who get married and changed their names less than 90 days prior an election, folks that don't drive, etc Only if their family, church, senior center doesn't have a way to take them to the County Election board to register to vote. Most churches take non-driving Senior on trips, to stores, doctors/dental/vision appointments, etc. Funny how liberal hysteria always runs headlong into fact and reason.

Can't wait for the wailing when your taxes are raised to pay for these "free" ID cards.PSST - there is a reason they are free to the elderly or disabled Roll Eyes

Somehow, Democracy survived with hand counted paper ballots, and no photo ID requirement for a couple hundred years.

Funny how this suddenly becomes an issue when Republicans are desperately trying to maintain any semblance of relevance in this country.It should be an issue to every American not willing to let illegals, criminals or the dead vote!

It doesn't really matter though. There is going to be such an anti "wingnut-RepublicanDemocrats" tsunami this November, that all the dead, illegal and criminal votersvoter suppression tricks in the book won't be able to save their sorry a$$es.Fixed it for ya, Skippy Big Grin

We're talking "permanent minority status"!
Roll Eyes What color is the sky in your world?

Funny, my Granny died in 1996 at 98; she worked, was married to a WWI vet for 62 years (Grandpa died in 1963 and she never remarried) raised her own family of 4, 25 Grandchildren, and a passel of neighbor kids, drove a car until she was 84 (she voluntarily stopped driving the few blocks to church, bank, post office and grocery store), she continued to vote every local, state and federal election because she had her voters registration card and social security card.
Dang that was simple.
 
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Seems to me there is a ready-made Indiana solution that doesn't even require the good nuns to leave their nunnery ... and it also makes it easy for the sick and the lame ... and the rest of the elderly. Next.

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- All registered voters in Indiana are eligible to vote absentee-in-person at the county election board office beginning 29 days before Election Day.

- In order to vote absentee-by-mail, one of the following must apply:

o You have a specific, reasonable expectation that you will be absent from the county on Election Day during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open (6 am until 6 pm).

o You have a disability.

o You are at least 65 years of age.

o You will have official election duties outside of your voting precinct.

o You are scheduled to work at your regular place of employment during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.

o You will be confined due to illness or injury or you will be caring for an individual confined due to illness or injury during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.

o You are prevented from voting because of a religious discipline or religious holiday during the entire 12 hours that the polls are open.

o You are a participant in the state's address confidentiality program.

Note: Voters voting absentee-by-mail are NOT required to show photo ID.


http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/absentee.html

This is only an issue because some wish to make it one.
 
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What a rediculous statement. Heck, the Supreme Court that upheld this "voter suppression law" even stated that there was no evidence, and not one example of voter fraud in Indiana.
So what? Seems they are just taking steps to ensure it stays that way.

It was a law written to address a non-existent problem.
Non-existent for now anyway.

It's nothing but "voter suppression", but that is expected. Conservative know that the only way they have a snowballs chance in hell of achieving and staying in power is IF LESS PEOPLE VOTE.
A little proof of that statement would be helpful

Glad to see your happy that people who have voted legally in every election for the past 50 years were denied the right to vote.
That's a new law. Get used to it.

That's really something to be "proud" of. Roll Eyes
 
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Thanks for showing the American people the true nature of Conservatism.


That would mean "vote early and often" is the true face of liberalism?
 
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When did we give nuns the right to vote? Is there a Catholic nunnery amendment to the Bill of Rights that sneaked through the Congress?

Doggone right those nuns should be disenfranchised; if they get the right to vote, the next thing we'll have is an immigrant Hollywood action flick actor with a bad accent wanting to run for governor.

Those nuns should get special loyalty screenings as well as counterintelligence polygraphs to ensure that they're real Americans. How do we know that they're not really just part of some "sleeper cell" sent years ago from the Vatican to subvert our schools with Biblical invocations and teaching Christianity?

America for Americans only -- those with authentic American accents, real American religion that isn't imported from Rome or Mecca, and those who will think like the rest of us.


Damn, HEY EVERYBODY, I think NOVA is growing a sense of humor.


Naaa, hasn't said anything funny yet.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


but they are not free and that puts a restriction on the right to vote just as assuredly as if it were a poll tax.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


but they are not free and that puts a restriction on the right to vote just as assuredly as if it were a poll tax.

Not at all ... a state voter id is issued free if one does not have a driver's license. No poll tax BS at all.
 
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If his is still about the nuns, didn't someone once say "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's"? By the by, are there any definitive studies that prove there has never been voter fraud in Indiana? Like to see them.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


but they are not free and that puts a restriction on the right to vote just as assuredly as if it were a poll tax.
Well gee, isn't having to go to a polling place a restriction just like a poll tax too?


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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


but they are not free and that puts a restriction on the right to vote just as assuredly as if it were a poll tax.


Well, in the nuns state, they can get a FREE ID just for voting purposes. AND as Jade Gate pointed out in 4 posts above yours, they can get an absentee ballot just by being over 65 and don't have to show an ID. So, they aren't being aren't being prevented from voting at all. There are ways they can vote without showing an ID or they can get one at no cost.
 
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Link to the States and what their fees are for Stae IDs
I have noticed there are some who issue State IDs for voting purposes. Some even do this for free.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


but they are not free and that puts a restriction on the right to vote just as assuredly as if it were a poll tax.
Well gee, isn't having to go to a polling place a restriction just like a poll tax too?


Naaa, generally the Dems offer free bus service from Chicago to all of the neighboring states. Wink
 
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