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These are PRECISELY the kind of people who will be disenfranchised with these ID laws. If you have stopped ONE illegal vote, but disenfranchised 12 nuns, is that a fair trade?

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These are PRECISELY the kind of people who will be disenfranchised with these ID laws. If you have stopped ONE illegal vote, but disenfranchised 12 nuns, is that a fair trade?

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Yep ... and glad they got tightened up in a primary. They'll have their picture ID come November. The real kicker will come in Illinois when the Chicago machine has to come up with picture ID for all the quick and the dead that vote each election.

Edited to fix - thanks stillkit.

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These are PRECISELY the kind of people who will be disenfranchised with these ID laws. If you have stopped ONE illegal vote, but disenfranchised 12 nuns, is that a fair trade?

Indiana nuns lacking ID denied at poll by fellow sister
Yep ... and glad they got tightened up in a primary. They'll have their picture ID come November. The real kicker will come in Ohio when the Chicago machine has to come up with picture ID for all the quick and the dead that vote each election.




Ummmmmm....Chicago is in Illinois.
 
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One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'"
Sounds to me like she disenfranchised herself


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Ummmmmm....Chicago is in Illinois.
Yep ... you are 100% right on that ... disconnect between brain and fingers I guess.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!
 
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I personally think that we should do like the Colombians....they must all have a national ID and it's good for life.

Of course, down here, they have to return to their place of birth to vote, which is dumb, but it's their law.

However, you can hardly buy anything without the "cedula". Yes, they can be counterfeited, just like anything else, but the vast majority of us don't know how to do that or can't do that or won't do that.

For other identification, they, of course, have drivers licenses with picture ID.

For somebody to show up at a voting area without identification is pretty ludicrous and not thinking too clearly.

Good for Indiana.
 
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Leftist whining and bullscheisse, yet again. Get over it, Jack*sses. Your opportunties to further vote fraudulently are rightfully curtailed. One citizen, one vote.
 
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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency


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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency

If you're from, say, New York, and you're attending UCLA, how the heck are you supposed to do that? Absentee ballot regulations can vary quite a bit, and students have been trying to get the process streamlined for years.
 
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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency

If you're from, say, New York, and you're attending UCLA, how the heck are you supposed to do that? Absentee ballot regulations can vary quite a bit, and students have been trying to get the process streamlined for years.
Seems to me if the military can handle absentee balloting, so can college students. While absentee ballot procedures may very from state to state, you only have to be familiar with the ones in your home state. Doesn't sound like an overwhelming challenge to me ... if one really wants to vote.

Regardless, if one is not a resident of a state, one does not have a say in apportioning that state's delegates ... nor should one.
 
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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency

If you're from, say, New York, and you're attending UCLA, how the heck are you supposed to do that? Absentee ballot regulations can vary quite a bit, and students have been trying to get the process streamlined for years.
Seems to me if the military can handle absentee balloting, so can college students. While absentee ballot procedures may very from state to state, you only have to be familiar with the ones in your home state. Doesn't sound like an overwhelming challenge to me ... if one really wants to vote.

Regardless, if one is not a resident of a state, one does not have a say in apportioning that state's delegates ... nor should one.


Military servicemembers get help with absentee voting that most students don't get. It's not impossible, but it does consume time that one ought to be spending in class if you happen to be a student. And if you're residing in another state, you should have a say in what goes on there, regardless of where one's family resides.
 
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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency

If you're from, say, New York, and you're attending UCLA, how the heck are you supposed to do that? Absentee ballot regulations can vary quite a bit, and students have been trying to get the process streamlined for years.
Seems to me if the military can handle absentee balloting, so can college students. While absentee ballot procedures may very from state to state, you only have to be familiar with the ones in your home state. Doesn't sound like an overwhelming challenge to me ... if one really wants to vote.

Regardless, if one is not a resident of a state, one does not have a say in apportioning that state's delegates ... nor should one.


Military servicemembers get help with absentee voting that most students don't get. It's not impossible, but it does consume time that one ought to be spending in class if you happen to be a student. And if you're residing in another state, you should have a say in what goes on there, regardless of where one's family resides.


Military voters have the assistance of a "Voting Assistance Officer" (usually a new second louie) which, in my experience, nobody asks anything. Colleges should be "smart"enough to have a Voting Assistance Individual to help these bright young kids out.
 
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These are PRECISELY the kind of people who will be disenfranchised with these ID laws. If you have stopped ONE illegal vote, but disenfranchised 12 nuns, is that a fair trade?

Indiana nuns lacking ID denied at poll by fellow sister
Yep ... and glad they got tightened up in a primary. They'll have their picture ID come November. The real kicker will come in Illinois when the Chicago machine has to come up with picture ID for all the quick and the dead that vote each election.

Edited to fix - thanks stillkit.


What a rediculous statement. Heck, the Supreme Court that upheld this "voter suppression law" even stated that there was no evidence, and not one example of voter fraud in Indiana.

It was a law written to address a non-existent problem.

It's nothing but "voter suppression", but that is expected. Conservative know that the only way they have a snowballs chance in hell of achieving and staying in power is IF LESS PEOPLE VOTE.

Glad to see your happy that people who have voted legally in every election for the past 50 years were denied the right to vote.

That's really something to be "proud" of. Roll Eyes
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


Tell that to the 98 year old woman whose probably been voting for more years than we've been alive.

She should just drive herself down to the DMV, and get an ID.

Her husband probably fought in WWI, and there's a damn good chance also WWII, and you jokingly throw away the most basic right we have.

Thanks for showing the American people the true nature of Conservatism.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


Tell that to the 98 year old woman whose probably been voting for more years than we've been alive.

She should just drive herself down to the DMV, and get an ID.

Her husband probably fought in WWI, and there's a damn good chance also WWII, and you jokingly throw away the most basic right we have.

Thanks for showing the American people the true nature of Conservatism.


Umm, read article then post. The 98 year old gal was a NUN. They don't have husbands, ones that fought in WWI. WWII or otherwise.

SW even put NUN's in the Header of the Post, so maybe you should POSt about the topic.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


Tell that to the 98 year old woman whose probably been voting for more years than we've been alive.

She should just drive herself down to the DMV, and get an ID.

Her husband probably fought in WWI, and there's a damn good chance also WWII, and you jokingly throw away the most basic right we have.

Thanks for showing the American people the true nature of Conservatism.


Umm, read article then post. The 98 year old gal was a NUN. They don't have husbands, ones that fought in WWI. WWII or otherwise.

SW even put NUN's in the Header of the Post, so maybe you should POSt about the topic.


The topic happens to be voter suppression. The Nuns are one example. The disabled American World War II vet in a wheelchair without the means or the needs for a "state issued ID card" could be another one.

The issue is, I'm opposed to voter suppression. Does that mean you're in favor of it?
 
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Another woman said she was turned away from casting her first-ever ballot because she had only a college-issued ID card and an out-of-state driver's license, Perez said.
does not sound like she is a state resident, she should have voted in her state of residency

If you're from, say, New York, and you're attending UCLA, how the heck are you supposed to do that? Absentee ballot regulations can vary quite a bit, and students have been trying to get the process streamlined for years.
Yes, but this was a state primary. If she intends to reside in that state, she needs to get her drivers license updated to reflect he stat of residency. If she is going to remain a resident of her home state, she needs to file absentee.


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The topic is an example - The Nuns - of voter disenfranchisement. Your statement about the Nun having a husband who had probably fought in WWI and WWII was laughable, it showed that you just jumped into the fray with both feet, and blinders on.

You are so liberal, you just had to have your say without knowing what exactly was going on.
 
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Come ON MOST people have a drivers licences or State-issued photo ID's ARE not that hard to get!


Tell that to the 98 year old woman whose probably been voting for more years than we've been alive.

She should just drive herself down to the DMV, and get an ID.

Her husband probably fought in WWI, and there's a damn good chance also WWII, and you jokingly throw away the most basic right we have.

Thanks for showing the American people the true nature of Conservatism.


Umm, read article then post. The 98 year old gal was a NUN. They don't have husbands, ones that fought in WWI. WWII or otherwise.

SW even put NUN's in the Header of the Post, so maybe you should POSt about the topic.
Not to mention, read the article. If you had, you would see that she could have gotten an ID card but did not feel like it.


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