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A New York Times/CBS poll found that 65% of respondents want a public health care option, while only 26% opposed such a plan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_299669.html



This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Could it possibly be that a clear majority of the American people believe that choice is the American Way?
 
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A New York Times/CBS poll found that 65% of respondents want a public health care option, while only 26% opposed such a plan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_299669.html



This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Could it possibly be that a clear majority of the American people believe that choice is the American Way?


This poll indicates that the American public is dazed and confused but not totally stupid.

Interesting responses about Afghanistan too. All over the map. 32% want to decrease troops, 32% want us out in less than a year but 43% feel that terror will increase if we do. Seems a lot of folks haven't thought this through.
 
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All can say is look at the source NY Times, I bet they took a poll of 5 democrats and 10 liberals no Rep or Indep.
 
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This poll indicates that the American public is dazed and confused but not totally stupid.

Interesting responses about Afghanistan too. All over the map. 32% want to decrease troops, 32% want us out in less than a year but 43% feel that terror will increase if we do. Seems a lot of folks haven't thought this through.



Hell just froze over! Glad you see that Thud! I was thinking the same thing when I looked at the poll.


 
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This poll indicates that the American public is dazed and confused but not totally stupid.

Interesting responses about Afghanistan too. All over the map. 32% want to decrease troops, 32% want us out in less than a year but 43% feel that terror will increase if we do. Seems a lot of folks haven't thought this through.



Hell just froze over! Glad you see that Thud! I was thinking the same thing when I looked at the poll.


Could be that they're having the same trouble separating the fact from the hyperbole and overblown rhetoric that we are--that many simply don't have enough information on what's in the health bill (like which one they're being asked about) or about the situation on the ground in Afghanistan...

...or that they're getting tired of polls. Big Grin


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If a pollster tried to question me he'd get two answers for each question. Would he believe me or the talking sock on my other hand...?
 
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Ummm...If you read that poll you would see that those polled have their heads up there arse collectively.
How do they know they want a public option if they have no idea what it is?
 
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A part of the confusion is in the wording. The question which has this OP so excited includes the words "like MediCare". In reality, the proposed bill is nothing like MediCare! Misleading,, biased, and confusing.
 
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Hey! Lets use that same poll for these additional topics:

55% Say Obama has NOT given clear explanations on Health Care Plan

59% Say Health Care Plan Confusing

Only 22% Believe tax dollars not to be spent on Illegals health care

Only 23% Believe "Death Panels" not possible

You really shouldn't have posted the whole poll, it refutes your argument better that ahy of us could.
 
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Hey! Lets use that same poll for these additional topics:

55% Say Obama has NOT given clear explanations on Health Care Plan

59% Say Health Care Plan Confusing

Only 22% Believe tax dollars not to be spent on Illegals health care

Only 23% Believe "Death Panels" not possible

You really shouldn't have posted the whole poll, it refutes your argument better that ahy of us could.


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What has remained consistent through this debate has been the public's support for a public option, especially when the public option is explained. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly supports the public option.
 
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55% Say Obama has NOT given clear explanations on Health Care Plan

59% Say Health Care Plan Confusing

Only 22% Believe tax dollars not to be spent on Illegals health care

Only 23% Believe "Death Panels" not possible


It should be a surprise to anyone how confusing this topic is given that health care expenditures equals about 18% of our nations GDP. If I Obama I would invite those that do have coverage to look closely at their past bills and then imagine they would lose that coverage.

The 22% noted above are those that are clueless and don't understand that we will always be paying for health care in those that are in the country illegally. We will continue to treat them in emergency rooms across our great nation.

The 23% noted above that don't think death panels are possible are probably in denial right now because they exist both in the private and public sectors.
 
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Deniel has nothing to do with it...it is lack of knowledge as to how the present system works...private insurance is constantly denying claims from doctors, and policy holders. They are left to die no questions about it.
 
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New York Times Poll taken where? New York? What do you expect? They're all on welfare there. They just want more - - Roll Eyes


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What has remained consistent through this debate has been the public's support for a public option, especially when the public option is explained. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly supports the public option.


Why do you find the opinion of Bill O'Reilly to be important? The fact that your statement is false and has that it has been repudiated by O'Reilly is conveniently absent in your post.
 
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A poll taken of 99% of Iraqis during the 1990s showed that they loved Saddam Hussein; that other 1% was clinically depressed and suicidal. So you get both reliable political data and medical diagnoses from properly conducted polls--who knew they were that useful...?
 
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What has remained consistent through this debate has been the public's support for a public option, especially when the public option is explained. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly supports the public option.


Why do you find the opinion of Bill O'Reilly to be important? The fact that your statement is false and has that it has been repudiated by O'Reilly is conveniently absent in your post.
Bill O'Reilly has a tendency to forget that his actual words are on tape. He may have tried to recant what he said because his base pitched a fit and fell in over the statement, but his statement was recorded...
 
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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:
What has remained consistent through this debate has been the public's support for a public option, especially when the public option is explained. Hell, even Bill O'Reilly supports the public option.


Why do you find the opinion of Bill O'Reilly to be important? The fact that your statement is false and has that it has been repudiated by O'Reilly is conveniently absent in your post.
Bill O'Reilly has a tendency to forget that his actual words are on tape. He may have tried to recant what he said because his base pitched a fit and fell in over the statement, but his statement was recorded...


But of course President B. Hussein Obama has NEVER said anything on tape that he has refuted on denied at a later date. Has he?
 
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I think when you explain to people what the "public option" is, how it cost tax-payers nothing and is financed through premiums, how it is voluntary participation only, and how it gives people extra freedom and choice, then yes, people do like it.
 
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Just 41% of voters nationwide now favor the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down two points from a week ago and the lowest level of support yet measured.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% are opposed to the plan.

Senior citizens are less supportive of the plan than younger voters. In the latest survey, just 33% of seniors favor the plan while 59% are opposed. The intensity gap among seniors is significant. Only 16% of the over-65 crowd Strongly Favors the legislation while 46% are Strongly Opposed.

"http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/
september_2009/health_care_reform"


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I think when you explain to people what the "public option" is, how it cost tax-payers nothing and is financed through premiums, how it is voluntary participation only, and how it gives people extra freedom and choice, then yes, people do like it.


explain to me how a Goverment Funded Program is funded?

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I think when you explain to people what the "public option" is, how it cost tax-payers nothing and is financed through premiums, how it is voluntary participation only, and how it gives people extra freedom and choice, then yes, people do like it.




How is it free from tax money??? Taking from one program that is tax funded is still tax money and by taxing other private insurance plans the cost will be distributed to the costumer who will be getting double dipped by deceptive backdoor charges, as well as those who CHOOSE not to participate could find themselves in jail with super steep fines...If that is your idea of cost us taxpayers nothing, you can KEEP it for yourself to participate in! Wink
 
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I think when you explain to people what the "public option" is, how it cost tax-payers nothing and is financed through premiums, how it is voluntary participation only, and how it gives people extra freedom and choice, then yes, people do like it.


explain to me how a Goverment Funded Program is funded?

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The "public option" element is NOT government-funded. It is funded through premiums only. Only those who choose to enroll pay into it.

If you don't want to participate in the public option, then you don't have to pay a dime.
 
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Originally posted by WilliamMalcomson:
Hey! Lets use that same poll for these additional topics:

55% Say Obama has NOT given clear explanations on Health Care Plan

59% Say Health Care Plan Confusing

Only 22% Believe tax dollars not to be spent on Illegals health care

Only 23% Believe "Death Panels" not possible

You really shouldn't have posted the whole poll, it refutes your argument better that ahy of us could.


Where was the question 'Do you know what the Public option is'?
 
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Hey! Lets use that same poll for these additional topics:

55% Say Obama has NOT given clear explanations on Health Care Plan

59% Say Health Care Plan Confusing

Only 22% Believe tax dollars not to be spent on Illegals health care

Only 23% Believe "Death Panels" not possible

You really shouldn't have posted the whole poll, it refutes your argument better that ahy of us could.


Where was the question 'Do you know what the Public option is'?

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What about "Is the Public Option free? Yes or No." Those that think its free are definitely for the free stuff, I'll bet.
 
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This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Could it possibly be that a clear majority of the American people believe that choice is the American Way?


Yes it does, especially when you put it in the context with 59% are confused. Almost as many that support 'public option'. I wonder if those that are in the 65% can explained what it is they are in favor of???
 
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Hard to believe when almost 60% oppose the healthcare bill. Perhaps that is 65% of the 40% that favor public option. That would mean about 25% of the electorate favor public option. That sounds about right.
 
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Most people support healthcare reform...most people support a public option... and most people think the present legislation as represented by HR3200 sucks! That is the only confusion.
 
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Just 41% of voters nationwide now favor the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down two points from a week ago and the lowest level of support yet measured.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% are opposed to the plan.

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For the first time ever, a slight plurality of voters now express doubt that the legislation will become law this year. Forty-six percent (46%) say passage is likely while 47% say it is not. Those figures include 18% who say passage is Very Likely and 15% who say it is Not at All Likely. Sixty percent (60%) are less certain.

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Also, from the beginning of the debate, the has been a huge partisan divide. Currently 75% of Democrats favor the plan. Seventy-nine percent (79%) of Republicans are opposed, as are 72% of the unaffiliated.

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As Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, wrote recently in the Wall Street Journal: “The most important fundamental is that 68% of American voters have health insurance coverage they rate good or excellent … Most of these voters approach the health care reform debate fearing that they have more to lose than to gain.” A Rasmussen video report shows that 53% of those with insurance believe it’s likely they would have to change coverage if the congressional plan becomes law.

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"http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform"

Where support is bleeding away is from those that are happy with their healthcare that are slowly but surely recognizing that Obama quibbled when he said their healthcare would be unaffected.
 
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Just to name one peice of legislation...the "fines", the "limitations that would be legitimized", you name it.
 
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