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Lead Moderator MILITARY HISTORY Freedom!!! -------------------  Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group -------------------  |
We the People have witnessed the refinancing of the Banks and Robber Barons by...We the People...and have witnessed the first phase of re-distribution of wealth in America...
Most remain oblivious to the fact that the young benefactors REMAIN the progeny of the Donors...the newly disenfranchised...and their young will ultimately pay the debt... Meanwhile those very bailout dollars provided by We the People will be the Working Capital required to further the previously insolvent companies efforts to apply fees, penalties and usurious charges to advance their P&L's...without Honor... We must choose between mere survival...and survival and some semblance of Honor and Dignity. Choose... |
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That's a joke, son. |
The drama is a little thick around these parts.
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Although Strobelvets you are indeed "Spot On" with your comments...unfortunately, we live in a (majority) Sheeple Nation that is...Stuck On Stupid . . .
Our Educators, MSM, Legislators, and Law SMEs are..., by and large, stalwart members of that Sheeple mindset... It (Economic, Political, World Situation) will assuredly get much, much worse before it ever gets any better, I pray I am so wrong... |
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That's a joke, son. |
Cracks me up the those that want capitalism the most, want to sit around and whine about the capitalists. It really does not get any dumber. |
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Lead Moderator MILITARY HISTORY Freedom!!! ------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group ------------------- |
Market forces and consumer needs function without our approval or consent...and drive markets... Something you miss...and don't comprehend... We don't WANT Capitalism...it exists despite your meager understanding of economics... We accept it as a rule beyond alteration or amendment...and seek to understand how to survive the efforts of individuals to litigate market forces beyond their control... Just as others have in the past two decades elsewhere.... |
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That's a joke, son. |
We do....I mean don't. Better take a poll. I think you might be surprised. |
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Lead Moderator MILITARY HISTORY Freedom!!! ------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group ------------------- |
It is HUMAN NATURE to CONTROL ALL...environments of all sorts...but Nature and ECONOMIC laws such as the "invisible hand" prevail... Re Capitalism...it will always exist...something Socialists must resist...but never conquer... Ultimately it represents the free will of People to procure that whcih they desire... Something beyond the whims or control of Politicians... |
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So our experts on education, media, and the drafting, practice and interpretation of the law are "by and large" mindless drones (feel free to correct my interpretation of "Sheeple")? The way I interpret your statement is that there is something about serious education in law, journalism, and education that generally makes people reject the way you personally think. |
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That's a joke, son. |
Best I can understand of what they wrote, they are the only ones that have a clue. Seems to me that the folks they elected knew what was going on at some point, yet they some how muffed it. So now it there is nothing left for them to do is whine and deny that they are part of that formally in-charge party. |
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------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group -------------------  |
I believe this article may shed some light. My op-ed piece may explain "who we are" and "why we do" the things we do. Of course, those who like to be controlled; I call them Socialists or Communists and even Fascists type. Socialism: Does it Fit Mankind? |
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SlackMaster Actual |
If socialism, communism and capitalism are mutually exclusive why is India and China kicking our butts?
"Diplomacy is utterly useless when there is no force behind it; the diplomat is the servant, not the master of the soldier." THEODORE ROOSEVELT |
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That's a joke, son. |
It is all in the degrees. |
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------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group ------------------- |
India wants to make a Dollar, China controls it's people so it can make a Dollar for it's regime. It's Military is staggering! It's people are oppressed and controlled. For Socialism and Communism to work on the masses you need to stunt the individuals natural drive to excel. You need a motivator to keep them in line...threats!...You need punishment! |
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How? Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) 1 United States 14,441,425 2 Japan 4,910,692 3 China 4,327,448h 4 Germany 3,673,105 5 France 2,866,951 6 United Kingdom 2,680,000 7 Italy 2,313,893 8 Russia 1,676,586 9 Spain 1,601,964 10 Brazil 1,572,839 11 Canada 1,499,551 12 India 1,206,684 13 Mexico 1,088,128 14 Australia 1,013,461 15 South Korea 929,124 16 Netherlands 876,970 17 Turkey 729,983 18 Poland 527,866 19 Indonesia 511,765 20 Belgium 506,183 21 Switzerland 500,260 |
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The laws of economic science do not have the same status as the laws of physics. The laws of physics exist and are immutable regardless of man's activity, or even existence. Economics is a man-made construct, and we, if we wish, can alter the rules, or even destroy economics as we know it - if we collectively want to. Much of what is spouted as Economics is, when all is said and done, a question of psychology. |
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First Phase of ther redistribution of wealth? Wealth has been collected from the rich and middle class and passed on to those less fortunate for decades. I'm not sure where you're going with this. As for bailouts, etc.. They are a temporary and required evil to stabilize a faultering economy. |
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Greed will be the downfall of this country. In the 80's when CEO were compensated to the tune of 40 to 45% above their average worker, that was fair. In 2009, CEO's earn 300 to 400% times their average workers pay. Are CEO's working that much harder or are they that much more educated these days than in the 80's or has greed taken over.
CEO compensation is out of the box. |
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------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group ------------------- |
...and so are they all, even in Congress regardless of political party. This is why there is a movement among non-elected Americans to put a top to graft and elect new blood.
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ACR26 I think the statement by EngrOpsNCO was about growth and the FACT that China is buying so much of the US debt. I hope you are you aware that two things account for MOST of the US's economic advantage from after WWII through the 70's? One was the GOOD LUCK to be the only major industrial nation with an undamaged infrastructure after WWII (which US indstry wasted by not keeping up on tech upgrades) and the other was a Socialist program called the GI bill that provided the US with a very large core of well educated workers. A better measure that GDP is Per Capita GDP were the US is rated #8. If you are going to use just GDP then you should compare the US (14,260,000) to the European Union (18,140,000) since they are similar in size.
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Is "new blood" in the form of elected officials going to curb the rampant greed at the top? Do you think a CEO really deserves over 300 times the compensation of his/her average worker? |
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Lead Moderator MILITARY HISTORY Freedom!!! ------------------- Proud Member Derelict Veterans Group ------------------- |
The Banks and Government are stabilizing, Weapons Officer...not the People... Unemployment and mortgae foreclosures are at an all time high...as are credit defaults... I have to admit I admire your stances though...you remind me of my conservative, democratic Kin...but, you might consider checking statistics on who is ACTUALLY being redeemed economically... Its a shame youre ALSO in the minority...as well...these days... |
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