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The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was nine.

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Originally posted by stillkit:
Well, he's right about one thing. A marriage contract is one thing; consumation is another.

Arranged marriages are still quite common in other cultures, not just among Arab Muslim's, but we here in the west find it distasteful. Of course, we forget that it was once common for us too, but that's another issue.

I think what most of us, and me, find most offensive is that the "bride" usually has no say in the matter. That runs counter to our understanding of inalienable rights and liberty. The idea that girls and women can be traded like horses is anathema to us.

However, that's applying our social norms to someone elses' and that's always a recipe for trouble. I'm sure we don't like it when they question how WE do things, do we, so what gives us the right to condemn them in turn?

Would anyone feel any differently about it if there was an age limit to consumation and the girl had the unfettered right to refuse the contract before that happened?

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Originally posted by Larkyn:

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Originally posted by stillkit:
Well, he's right about one thing. A marriage contract is one thing; consumation is another.

Arranged marriages are still quite common in other cultures, not just among Arab Muslim's, but we here in the west find it distasteful. Of course, we forget that it was once common for us too, but that's another issue.

I think what most of us, and me, find most offensive is that the "bride" usually has no say in the matter. That runs counter to our understanding of inalienable rights and liberty. The idea that girls and women can be traded like horses is anathema to us.

However, that's applying our social norms to someone elses' and that's always a recipe for trouble. I'm sure we don't like it when they question how WE do things, do we, so what gives us the right to condemn them in turn?

Would anyone feel any differently about it if there was an age limit to consumation and the girl had the unfettered right to refuse the contract before that happened?

as much "distaste" as the US finds it, it is still done in some places here in the US...

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by Larkyn:

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Originally posted by stillkit:
Well, he's right about one thing. A marriage contract is one thing; consumation is another.

Arranged marriages are still quite common in other cultures, not just among Arab Muslim's, but we here in the west find it distasteful. Of course, we forget that it was once common for us too, but that's another issue.

I think what most of us, and me, find most offensive is that the "bride" usually has no say in the matter. That runs counter to our understanding of inalienable rights and liberty. The idea that girls and women can be traded like horses is anathema to us.

However, that's applying our social norms to someone elses' and that's always a recipe for trouble. I'm sure we don't like it when they question how WE do things, do we, so what gives us the right to condemn them in turn?

Would anyone feel any differently about it if there was an age limit to consumation and the girl had the unfettered right to refuse the contract before that happened?

as much "distaste" as the US finds it, it is still done in some places here in the US...

not kids and not legally...

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
ive never heard of it in the states.... maybe some muslim or someone from another country but ive never heard about it with us citizens.... people here do have choices you know... oh yea i forgot about religious cults tho...

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
well really if they still do that they do have their own laws on their reverations...also i believe they conceder that apart of their religion...

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do realize that there are large numbers of native americans that dont live on reservations..

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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do realize that there are large numbers of native americans that dont live on reservations..

oh yea of course..but they are not protected by tribal law... or whatever its called...

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
Disregard outlaws. He has knowledge of virtually nothing but an opinion about everything.

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Originally posted by Cider33Alpha:
Disregard outlaws. He has knowledge of virtually nothing but an opinion about everything.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Good Grief Charlie Brown.

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Originally posted by Larkyn:

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Good Grief Charlie Brown.

aww...i always liked charlie brown

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:

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Originally posted by Larkyn:

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Good Grief Charlie Brown.

aww...i always liked charlie brown

Yep, I still watch the cartoons when they come on and I read the comic every Sunday.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
Now that we've hijacked the thread......

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
sickening but then again you got to look at who he is idolizing..

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The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she wa