Saw it last night and I thought it was excellent.

Very respectful to the military and to soldiers.

The opening battle sequences were the best portrayal of the Iraq War that I have seen to date.

Great movie, two thumbs up.

I'm gonna scoop up my grand kids and we'll see it tonight. A lot of folks have been saying it's good.

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I'm gonna scoop up my grand kids and we'll see it tonight. A lot of folks have been saying it's good.

It's really good, makes ya think and some great action scenes.

I haven't heard anything about it. Here in Bugtussle sometimes we don't get the latest movies. Hell, sometimes we get secondhand websites.

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Originally posted by PeteCDR:
I haven't heard anything about it. Here in Bugtussle sometimes we don't get the latest movies. Hell, sometimes we get secondhand websites.

It was in theaters a while ago.

Comes out on DVD Tuesday. A friend at the video store hooked me up w/ a copy.

I guess I need to get a copy then and see it. I was pretty ****ed (OMG, can I say "****ed"? Used to be able to.) when the theater here cancelled
"Expelled". Surprising events here in
waco.

The **** word wizard's blown a gasket ****

I'll probably pick it up on Tuesday after work... I never got a chance to see it in the theaters, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

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Originally posted by joshuacarnes:
I'll probably pick it up on Tuesday after work... I never got a chance to see it in the theaters, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

It's honorable to the military.

I liked what I saw in the trailers/previews... I think I'll enjoy it.

Yes, I'm sure it's excellent... reflected by its success in the theaters.

It's thinly veiled, (at best), anti-war propaganda. No thanks.

"The Boondock Saints" did horribly in the theaters too.

Case rested.

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Originally posted by joshuacarnes:
"The Boondock Saints" did horribly in the theaters too.

Case rested.

The two movies bear no resemblence to one another.

The Boondock Saints is a pretty damn good movie that didn't do well in theaters due to lack of publicity and advertising. Once people knew about it and watched it, many loved it.

Stop Loss is a production that is an overt criticism of OIF, motivated by partisan politics alone. It "honors the troops", while trashing their leadership, in a time of war. It's propaganda, and if you won't admit as much, you're simply being dishonest.

It flopped in theaters not because of lack of advertising, but because of lack of interest by the American public. They damn sure heard about it, but had no interest in paying to be lectured to by the often seditious and always delusional Hollywood elite. The crux of Hollywood's ignorant message: that OIF is futile and/or criminal. They recognized that Stop Loss's message is, quite simply, bullshit.

Better get that case off its ass and try again.

Having served in OIF III, I stay away from movies about the war. It's hard to explain but I just have an aversion to them. Add to that the fact that they are overwhelmingly anti-whatever and I really don't see the point. I don't want a pro-war fluff piece, I'd just like to see an honest depiction of the war.

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Originally posted by foxred03:
Having served in OIF III, I stay away from movies about the war. It's hard to explain but I just have an aversion to them. Add to that the fact that they are overwhelmingly anti-whatever and I really don't see the point. I don't want a pro-war fluff piece, I'd just like to see an honest depiction of the war.

Mr. bought thinks like you and shades in that regard, and he didn't walk away from that movie thinking it was political. Trust me, if you knew him, that's saying A LOT!! We saw it(theatre) about a week before he left for Iraq, probably not the best timing though. It was ok. It wasn't "bad" but wasn't great either.

Found this review off an external link on the IMDb website...(note that 5 of the 6 critics are lefties and found the movie to be a masterpiece, while the lone conservative was not impressed)...


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Critics are suggesting that Stop-Loss, from Boys Don't Cry director Kimberly Peirce, is unlike any antiwar film ever produced, certainly unlike any about the Iraq or Afghan wars. A.O. Scott in the New York Times offers an almost tortured description of the movie. It is, he writes, "not only an earnest, issue-driven narrative, but also a feverish entertainment, a passionate, at times overwrought melodrama gaudy with violent actions and emotions. The sober, mournful piety that has characterized a lot of the other fictional features about Iraq ... is almost entirely missing from Stop-Loss. ... Not that the movie is unsentimental -- far from it -- but its messy, chaotic welter of feeling has a tang of authenticity. Instead of high-minded indignation or sorrow, it runs on earthier fuel: sweat, blood, beer, testosterone, loud music and an ideologically indeterminate, freewheeling sense of rage." Likewise Jan Stewart in Newsday writes that the movie "builds a cumulative power and sense of urgency that can't be denied." Much of the credit for the film's success is being attributed to the performance of Ryan Philippe, in the role of a soldier who resists orders to return to the Middle East. Philippe plays his character, says Kenneth Turan in the Los Angeles Times, "not as a flawed hero but as a man with real and serious psychological problems trying to survive in a world of moral collapse." John Anderson in the Washington Post agrees: "Phillippe does a fine job translating the unspeakable anger of a soldier into action, expressing it physically instead of verbally," he writes. On the other hand, Amy Biancolli in the Houston Chronicle comments that the veterans of Afghanistan and Iraq "deserve a better movie" and faults Philippe for being unable "to broadcast inner torment. Oh, he'll yell when he needs to, he'll wince on cue ... but that roiling substratum of psychological pain just refuses to surface." And Kyle Smith, the lone, outspoken political conservative among the country's major newspaper critics, takes dead aim at the movie, calling it facetiously, "a highly patriotic film, if you happen to dream of the restored caliphate as you sleep in your Osama bin Laden pajamas. Its message is that the good guys are U.S. soldiers who decide to desert."

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:
The two movies bear no resemblence to one another.

The Boondock Saints is a pretty damn good movie that didn't do well in theaters due to lack of publicity and advertising. Once people knew about it and watched it, many loved it.

Stop Loss is a production that is an overt criticism of OIF, motivated by partisan politics alone. It "honors the troops", while trashing their leadership, in a time of war. It's propaganda, and if you won't admit as much, you're simply being dishonest.

It flopped in theaters not because of lack of advertising, but because of lack of interest by the American public. They damn sure heard about it, but had no interest in paying to be lectured to by the often seditious and always delusional Hollywood elite. The crux of Hollywood's ignorant message: that OIF is futile and/or criminal. They recognized that Stop Loss's message is, quite simply, bullshit.

Better get that case off its ass and try again.

Wow, you're sure willing to fight tooth and nail with the excuses over a measly little movie, aren't you?

I never said "Boondock Saints" and "Stop-Loss" bore resemblance to one another... I simply stated how just because a movie did poorly in the theaters, it doesn't mean it was a bad movie.

I'm an actual OIF Veteran (unlike yourself), and I think the real "Stop-Loss" policy is bullshit... Therefore, I believe a movie which showcases this bullshit policy to the otherwise-unknowing American public can only lead to good things - even if it's simply awareness in general. It's only "propaganda" because you happen to disagree with it... If a movie came out with the opposite theme, would you also label it the same? I think not. But yeah dude, you're right... The American public most certainly overwhelmingly supports the Iraq War.

Oh, and I asked several of my friends (and some of my family) if they've ever heard about the movie "Stop Loss", and they all said "no". So... There goes your theory on adequate advertising. It wasn't exactly ranking up there with "Cloverfield"... So yeah, just because you were aware of it, that doesn't mean the entire American public was aware of it. There weren't even any "major names" appearing in the film, and it was only playing in select theaters to begin with.

It's all in how you look at it. I for one, see no problems in "supporting the troops", but "trashing the leadership" (if you even want to dignify them with such a title). That's my stance exactly, and I agree 100%. The troops do their jobs well - our leadership does not.

But go ahead... You think what you want, dude. So far you're the only here getting your panties in a wad over it.

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Some people judge books by their covers.

Some people believe everything they hear.

If the movie in the least bit interests you, you should see it for yourself and make an informed decision, not base your opinion on the words of someone else.

Because whoever wrote this garbage...

"a highly patriotic film, if you happen to dream of the restored caliphate as you sleep in your Osama bin Laden pajamas. Its message is that the good guys are U.S. soldiers who decide to desert."

...clearly is NOT a Vet and clearly missed the point because the movie does not celebrate desertion. In fact, in the end, the main character who went AWOL in the face of being Stop-Lossed back to Iraq falls back in with buddies and does go back to Iraq.

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:
Yes, I'm sure it's excellent... reflected by its success in the theaters.

It's thinly veiled, (at best), anti-war propaganda. No thanks.

"I'm sure it's excellent..."
In other words, you haven't seen it, and you're just parroting talking points.

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Originally posted by Killswitch_Engage:


Because whoever wrote this garbage...

"a highly patriotic film, if you happen to dream of the restored caliphate as you sleep in your Osama bin Laden pajamas. Its message is that the good guys are U.S. soldiers who decide to desert."

...clearly is NOT a Vet and clearly missed the point because the movie does not celebrate desertion.

Actually, according to his Wiki profile, he is a vet.

Do you prefer ketchup or A-1 sauce with your crow?

That's very interesting Sgt. Are you?

A1 btw.