New Orleans mayor learns about disaster response in Cuba

HAVANA, Cuba (CNN) -- New Orleans, Louisiana, Mayor Ray Nagin arrived in Cuba late Friday on a mission to learn about how to deal with storms, a spokeswoman said.

"We understand we may have a lot to learn from the Cubans in terms of disaster preparedness and how they have dealt with hurricanes," spokeswoman Ceeon Quiett said.

Cuba is internationally applauded for exceptional disaster management, according to a news release from Nagin's office.

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Is it just me or is there something very wrong with this picture?

I'm not sure I've ever seen anything right with a picture that Ray Nagin's been a part of.

The first thing that came to mind was the fact that under Nagin, N.O. spent quite a bit of money for a emergency plan. Now he has to go to Cuba to learn about it? But I guess if it prevents another FUBAR situation as Katrina was, it is ok. IMO, N.O. would be much better off if they revoked his visa and did not allow him back into the country.

I assume Obama said this:

"It has now been just over four years since that terrible storm struck your shores," the president said. "And [in] the days after it did, this nation and all the world bore witness to the fact that the damage from Katrina was not caused just by a disaster of nature but also by a breakdown of government, that government wasn't adequately prepared, and we didn't appropriately respond."

The breakdown started with Nagin and he compounded it by arguing with Blanco. She was clueless and would not allow the Feds to come in and do what was needed until way late in the game.

You mean to tell me that he didn't learn enough from his experience with Katrina that he had to go to a flat broke communist country to learn how to deal with "storms"???

Nagin: "NO's goin' to be a Chocolate City...Chocolate..."

There you go...

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:
I assume Obama said this:

"It has now been just over four years since that terrible storm struck your shores," the president said. "And [in] the days after it did, this nation and all the world bore witness to the fact that the damage from Katrina was not caused just by a disaster of nature but also by a breakdown of government, that government wasn't adequately prepared, and we didn't appropriately respond."

The breakdown started with Nagin and he compounded it by arguing with Blanco. She was clueless and would not allow the Feds to come in and do what was needed until way late in the game.

Hey, that was Bush's fault...Nagin was clueless when the $hit hit the fan...but it was Bush's fault...what the hell's wrong with you, racist. Chairman Mao would have your a$$, sucker...

The total FUBAR created by not evacuating New Orleans and the surrounding low areas created an overwhelming situation for disaster relief. Instead of disaster recovery, the feds were engaged with rescue operations. They were HINDERED by state and local agencies more than ASSISTED by state and local agencies (willing personnel, lack of direction). If Ray Nagin didn't learn from his mistakes for Katrina, he will surely not learn anything from Cuba except communism and harvesting sugar cane by manual labor.

Of note, former Gov. Kathleen Blanco managed to get in a trip to Cuba as governor also.
"http://havanajournal.com/business/entry/governor_blanco_after_cuba_trip_w_commentary/"

What is it about the Dems and Cuba? The treasury dept has allowances for travel to Cuba, but some of this travel is a stretch.

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What is it about the Dems and Cuba? The treasury dept has allowances for travel to Cuba, but some of this travel is a stretch.

To some, Cuba represents a beacon. Why, I don't understand.

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Originally posted by psychoABN:

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:
I assume Obama said this:

"It has now been just over four years since that terrible storm struck your shores," the president said. "And [in] the days after it did, this nation and all the world bore witness to the fact that the damage from Katrina was not caused just by a disaster of nature but also by a breakdown of government, that government wasn't adequately prepared, and we didn't appropriately respond."

The breakdown started with Nagin and he compounded it by arguing with Blanco. She was clueless and would not allow the Feds to come in and do what was needed until way late in the game.

Hey, that was Bush's fault...Nagin was clueless when the $hit hit the fan...but it was Bush's fault...what the hell's wrong with you, racist. Chairman Mao would have your a$$, sucker...

Oh yea, I forgot that some here revealed that Bush knew of the track of Katrina was going to let it hit N.O. and he kept it a secret. Some also revealed that he ordered the levees to be blown to rid N.O. of the riff raff..... I heard it all right here on these boards no less.....

What these same folks failed to point out was that Bush must of really hated the Ms. coast. He ordered whole towns to be literally wiped off the map!

Could it be that the mayor of the big Chocolate City doesn't understand that being a communist country they have rules and regulations that if not followed could mean death? Could it mean that the Cubans don't have a hand out system (FEMA) that gives them food, water, shelter, and money every time they are so stupid they don't evacuate? Or could it be that
the people of Cuba must take corrective action to protect their love ones and property because they don't have insurance or they know their country is not going to do it for them. The Cubans just can't get on a bus or a boat and go to Houston like the Chocolate people from the Chocolate City did.

As much as I disagree with anyone being prohibited from traveling anywhere they wish.

I thought it was still illegal for American citizens to travel to Cuba.

If so, that would be an easy way to dispose of Nagin. He is a farce anyway.

Frisco

aw,aw,think how much nagin got for scrap iron from them school bus'es.i sent 2 sand bags,some body sitin on it.drink chocolate milk.

Not all of the points are being discussed about Nagin going into a communist country.

Have we all forgotten that there is still a Cuban boycott? Which includes travel restrictions by Americans into the country?

In short, Nagin has publicly thumbed his nose at American policy. Adding further insult to injury, I seriously doubt the State Department will do anything about it.

Where has all the political intestinal fortitude gone? Suppose they are all trying to be like Pelosi huh?

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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What is it about the Dems and Cuba? The treasury dept has allowances for travel to Cuba, but some of this travel is a stretch.

To some, Cuba represents a beacon. Why, I don't understand.

The DEMs see themselves as the potential Politburo, politicians for life...No REP party to compete with . . .

But hey, Amerikans can have it all FREE ! ! !

Don't want to disappoint any of you but both major parties have "Central Committees" like the Commies...DNC and RNC and they publish and establish policies, organize supporters and money and payoff the party hacks with jobs, money, travel, etc. Both parties.

As for Cuba? We loved Castro in his first few years, he pitched an inning of pro ball with the Washington Senators in DC, with tv coverage, then the whole commie thing came down...Bay of Pigs, etc.

What the hades is there in Cuba to protect, other than Guantanamo Bay and its associated Recreation Center for terrorists? Take away their broken down buildings and the classic cars from the 50s and what is left? Oh, thats right Michael Moore found Health Care better than ours.

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Originally posted by ELLIOTT1980:

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Originally posted by Woody_in_La:

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What is it about the Dems and Cuba? The treasury dept has allowances for travel to Cuba, but some of this travel is a stretch.

To some, Cuba represents a beacon. Why, I don't understand.

The DEMs see themselves as the potential Politburo, politicians for life...No REP party to compete with . . .

But hey, Amerikans can have it all FREE ! ! !

Absolutely! Obama's Czars=Politburo....

Lyda Ann Thomas, mayor of Galveston went in April. Where was the outrage then?

I'm not a huge Nagin fan, seeing him as ineffectual and slow. But, the animus here is misguided and misplaced. Visiting a place that gets it right isn't a BAD thing, even if we don't share the communist philosophy.

He is probably just thinking ahead. He want's to learn how Marxist take care of things so he can fit in little better in out new regime.

Well, if the fool Nagin wanted to see a place that "got it right", he'd have gone to GEORGIA and FLORIDA. What is it, exactly, that Cuba got "right"? The prisons? The executions without trial, the political prisions, what?

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Originally posted by peter3_1:
Well, if the fool Nagin wanted to see a place that "got it right", he'd have gone to GEORGIA and FLORIDA. What is it, exactly, that Cuba got "right"? The prisons? The executions without trial, the political prisions, what?

Aw C'mon..., had ole Nagin came over here to the Sunshine State we would've talked way over his pea sized brain and then he wouldn't have any defense when he fails again, and again, and again...Whitey keep him down...and she-it . . .

Besides, he can trust his Brothers the Cubans...They be held down by the ******s (Whitey in Spanish)...TOO ! ! !

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Originally posted by billbright:
Lyda Ann Thomas, mayor of Galveston went in April. Where was the outrage then?

I'm not a huge Nagin fan, seeing him as ineffectual and slow. But, the animus here is misguided and misplaced. Visiting a place that gets it right isn't a BAD thing, even if we don't share the communist philosophy.

Well then, she sucks too...

Anyone see a reason why we shouldn't send a Congressional contingent to China to determine how to improve our economy. If Cuba knows how to manage a bad breeze, China certainly knows how to manage a country that can not handle its ecomony any better than we have for some time. That includes both parties, so don't have a hissy fit libs.

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Originally posted by RogerCollins:
Anyone see a reason why we shouldn't send a Congressional contingent to China to determine how to improve our economy. If Cuba knows how to manage a bad breeze, China certainly knows how to manage a country that can not handle its ecomony any better than we have for some time. That includes both parties, so don't have a hissy fit libs.

China has been so successful b/c the leadership shot all the environmentalists . . .

Plus, anyone that dared to mention Al Gore and Global Warming were also shot . . .

Finally, the term "relieved/fired/replaced" means "your arse is gonna get shot!"

What we called in the sixties..., ZERO DEFECTS

When they were public officials who were shot, they were killed in a mine cave in while on an inspection tour. Or they died in an airplane accident somwewhere utterly obscure.

Some were just arrested and killed. Called "gangs of 6" or however many they killed and branded notorious counter revolutionaries, given a 1 hr trial before being killed.

Yes, Mao had an odd sense of humor, indeed.

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Yes, Mao had an odd sense of humor, indeed.

..and that's why he's one of my favorite political philosophers.

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Yes, Mao had an odd sense of humor, indeed.

..and that's why he's one of my favorite political philosophers.

Your's too ! ! !

Me and my good friends, Van Jones, & Anita Dunn feel the same way too ! ! !

That's okay isn't it Sheriff Jack (ThumperNM)?