|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||
Military.com Forums Hot Topics & Current Events Point-Counterpoint So what is the status of your state's stimulus portion?|
Go
|
New
|
Find
|
Notify
|
Tools
|
Reply
|
|
|
Always on Warning  |
California is eagerly using theirs... and putting ten's of thousands back to work.
I have been seeing an increase in street work here in Fremont since early June. On Friday I just happened to look at the construction sign and found out who was paying for this work.  There is a LOT of street work going on now. I am thankful as this states half-decade decline in revenue has put off all but the most major of repairs and rehabilitation. Absolutely none of this was on the books for future annual budgeting... just in the needed to be done lists. What is being done is street resurfacing as depicted in the following pics,   (These are two separate but connected streets over 1/2 mile (length) in these photos) Street maintenance included and paid for by this package appear to be, street grinding and resurfacing, curb repairs, handicap walkway access curb installation and upgrading (new DOT standard w/ yellow rubber traction surface???), sidewalk repair, concrete repair, cutting out old asphalt, removal, and replacing with poured concrete for major street bus stops (it appears that our warmer years is causing the asphalt to soften and the busses to sink or leave ruts... global warming anyone???  ) So anyway... for those of YOU that had stated... where's the money... blah, blah, blah... here is a bit of proof from one small 287K city that the dastardly Democrat and Obama stimulus package has worked and placed about 1000 people BACK to work in this one city alone. Yes, this was just one location out of at least 20 sites working concurrently within the city itself. And this one had a beehive of activity and at least 30 working there. So Obama naysayers... eat your heart out and stick with the Bush program of only rewarding the wealthy and keep praying for your Reagan trickle down economics aka: the bread crumbs left over from the corporate trough. At least Obama came through on his promise. |
||
|
Experienced Member |
http://www.window.state.tx.us/recovery/onthemoney/
D-Day for federal stimulus reporting is Oct. 30. That's the day the federal government's primary Web site — http://www.recovery.gov/ — will post reports on how your tax dollars are being spent around the country. Not wanting to wait for the federal report, the Comptroller's tracking team in June began posting a weekly summary of what state agencies and public institutions of higher education in Texas reported receiving from the federal government. |
|||
|
Highly Experienced Member |
I don't know if it is recovery money doing it, but I just drove up to Tahoe this weekend and 80 is being repaved. Boy what a difference!
|
|||
|
-------------------  Proud Member Derelict Veterans' Group -------------------  |
Good, I am glad some are working, but it doesn't address the issue of what happens when 1. the Stim money runs out 2. The road is finished. I am not impressed with these so called jobs. They are NOT REAL jobs because folks are still working for the government. Working for either state or federal government does NOTHING for the economy and these folks will be un-employed once the stim is out or the work is done. Todays politics remind me of an old saying. - "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin |
|||
|
Member |
Not real jobs? You are absolutely and completely 100% wrong. Almost everyone involved in infrastructure stimulus projects is working for a private company. I work for a private firm and have completed numerous stimulus projects this summer. Our clients are state agencies and municipalities (i.e. they provide the funding) but that's as far as government gets involved. The government hires private architects and engineering firms to design infrastructure projects. The projects go out to bid to private contractors. The contractors coordinate with private distributors for materials, who in turn are supported by private manufacturers. My company has had numerous clients with projects that were on hold due to lack on funding. With the stimulus, these projects were put back on track. There's a large number of bids going out in September that will supply work for at least 3 years in PA depending on the size of the project. Once the work is done, guess what? You find, fund, and produce, more work. If you're a small business owner who does Heating, Plumbing, and HVAC contractor that's been slow for two years, the stimulus is exactly what's needed when your commercial clients are shying away from development and you're trying to pay your mortgage on 2 days of work every week. Building construction, making products, and providing a service is how wealth should be created in this country. We need to get away from artificial economic growth where you use computers to make money from money like wall street bankers. |
|||
|
|
---------------- Proud Member ----------------  |
Not real jobs? Funny, those are real roads, built of real concrete, asphalt, rerods...real sidewalks, real curb and gutter... Government funding, but real businesses large and small. Design and engineering. Surveying and staking. Skilled trades. Trucking. Manufacturing. Competitive bidding. American manufactured (or grown in my case) materials. Real jobs paying real wages to real American workers. Lots of hotel rooms and meals. Fuel. Spare parts and tools. It's another overdue bill that previous administrations have ignored. It's how people get to work and school, and how materials get to plants and goods to market. You think roads last forever? The 'mill and fill' process that Art's pictures show still don't address deficiencies in the sub-base, or the underlying utilities, but they make travel far better on a particular road for 5 or 10 years until there's money to address the underlying issues. And you got a road when the job is done and the money's gone. Not so glorious as a shiny new (empty) office building or condo project nobody but the developer needs, but us common folks can use them. Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time! |
|||
|
|
Always on Warning |
|
|||
|
veni, vidi, vici |
Our governor (Beverly Perdue-D) has built herself another mansion in Charlotte. Also created more 6-figure salery positions for her friends. As for the rest of us, we had to cut funds for education to pick up the slack for her. |
|||
|
|
Always on Warning |
I wonder how many states actually refused the bailout money?
I only maintain a partial presence in Fremont these days. So yesterday my local newspaper had an article on some of its uses for the stimulus money. Interesting what some of the limitations are... It does not taker a lot of stimulus to get people back to working. Santa Cruz is a city of 57,000 people. And is at the very bottom of possible grant funding through normal channels.
|
|||
|
|
Always on Warning |
Now here is perhaps an example of waste or pork in the stimulus package. I am not sure who gets put to work in this scenario that already wasn't working. You tell me...
|
|||
|
| Powered by Eve Community |
 | Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |
|
Military.com Forums Hot Topics & Current Events Point-Counterpoint So what is the status of your state's stimulus portion?
