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The claim made by L0A1 was that the reason Mr Franken won was because ignorant people did not know that if you vote for a President and not for other positions on the ticket then this is taken as a party line vote. I asked L0A1 if he had the % of votes that fit a party line vote based on ONLY a vote for President. We will see if he was just complaining or actually has any facts to back up his claim that people voted for Mr. Franken due to ignorance and trickery. |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
With all due respect Yooper, I have to disagree with you on this one. When we had the open profiles, I received personal emails from those on the Right questioning my patriotism and service record simply because I voted Democratic. I don't get those emails anymore with the closed profiles. But I must tell you, that left me with an overriding negative impression of both milcom and fellow members. You will find no reference from me, questioning the patriotism of Conservative members, or any members for that matter, regardless of their political leanings. All one needs to do, is to comb over the milcom hot topics threads from last year. There are more then enough references to Moderates, Liberals, Democrats, and anyone who is not in lock step with the Conservatives, being labeled Un-American and Un-Patriotic. It comes up time and time again. You might recall the POTUS Bashing showing Obama in communist regalia. It was all in poor taste, and the no POTUS bashing policy was reintroduced; thank God! Be it a communist label or an unpatriotic label, it doesn't wash off very easily with me! In my book, being branded and labeled are one in the same. http://forums.military.com/eve.../m/7350053722001/p/1 No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
Yes, I've heard about the knife analogy. And I think we all have thick enough skin to be bashed around on our own opinions. However, when the slants start becoming insulting to fellow members, describing them as Un-American and Un-Patriotic, then the whole ball game of HotTopics becomes an entirely different animal. No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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Best thing to ever come out of Minnesota is Hwy 94...
  "The World's Finest" |
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Of course Minnesota is like Iran, in that a lot of people get stoned there... how the hell else do you explain Senator Al Franken?
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12 years of Repub majority in Congress and 8 years of Repub control of the Presidency while ignoring what the party CLAIMED to represent. |
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very true.. I've spent the last few months listening to various 'pubs run around screaming 'what's our message? what's our essage?' They should be past that and on the point of 'How do we convince the american people that we are actually gonna uphold our own platform this time.. the fact that apparently they don't even know what their damned platform is, is SCARY. Gingrich is the only one who seems to have a clue.
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I'm not sure Snewt can get past the patronizing condescension...or that the segment old enough to see his potential can get all the way past the great hissy fit of '98. Ideologically conservative, but intellectually and personally he's Barack Obama without the charm...and the first marriage...and the family...and the freshness. I don't think the fish in Middle America are biting, and that's been the issue since '06, hasn't it? Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time! |
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...and to the question of Al Franken, I have two words:
Jesse Freekin' Ventura. Okay. Three words. No news here, except that the result doesn't speak very highly of Norm Coleman. Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time! |
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Part of the GOPs problem is that a few think Newt can fix it.
Good old Newt...he WILL go down in history, that is for sure. First time a Speaker had to be disciplined for ethical wrongdoing. |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
Look out Sea, he may be the pubs choice for 2012. Are we scared yet?  No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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Much like an empty suit could have beaten McCain..Obama will be the same. Sadly. |
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
Yea, I expect Obama to defeat Newt. Sad about it I won't be........  No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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The ONLY person I would vote for Newt over is Obama. I might even vote for Kerry over Newt... |
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Hey, how about he and Sarah on the same ticket? Wouldn't THAT be delightful? They could compare ethics violations... |
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Franken didn't win the election. Coleman lost it by reverting to his liberal roots and voting for the first bail-out bill, supporting the illegal immigrant amnesty bill (he called it "bringing them in out of the darkness" whatever the h*ll that meant) and jumping on the climate change fraud bandwagon. Add ACORN's own Mark Ritchie as Secretary of State to insure that the votes are counted as many times as necessary to get the outcome they wanted and Coleman never had a chance.
Al Franken is as much of a Minnesotan as Hillary Clinton was a New Yorker. They came slithering in dragging their carpetbags and selling their own brand of snake oil and the uninformed bought it. |
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Rush Limbaugh is just a talk radio buffoon. Much like Don Imus, Howard Stern, etc. I don't take any of them seriously.
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"Triumph over bygone sorrow, can in unity be won." |
You know it's interesting you brought that up, I was just thinking the same thing. Newt and Sarah on the same ticket. What a hoot!......  No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it. Carl von Clausewitz |
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From: Factcheck.org So far, the Coleman campaign has stopped short of making public allegations of partisan election-stealing of the sort seen in some right-leaning news sites. And we find no evidence of any partisan tilt in the Canvassing Board's makeup or rulings. For one thing, the five-member board is bipartisan. It includes two men who were appointed to the state supreme court by Minnesota's Republican governor, Tim Pawlenty. They are Chief Justice Eric Magnuson and Associate Justice G. Barry Anderson. A third member, Ramsey County Chief Judge Kathleen Gearin, was elected to that post in a nonpartisan election in 1986, and hasn't publicly discussed what her party leanings, if any, might be. A fourth member is Ramsey County Assistant Chief Judge Edward Cleary, who was appointed in 2002 by then-Gov. Jesse Ventura, an Independence Party member. The only clearly identified Democrat on the board is Secretary of State Mark Ritchie. And although Ritchie helped choose the panel's members, Coleman's lead lawyer, Fritz Knaak, said at the time: "The people of this state should feel good about who's on the panel." Furthermore, the board never divided along partisan lines. According to board member Cleary, "all of our major votes were unanimous." It's worth mentioning that the three-judge panel selected by Justice Page to oversee the trial is made up of Democratic, Republican and Independent appointees. As to the candidates themselves...Let's see, Franken was born in NY, but moved to MN when he was four and then spent his life there until 18 when he went to Harvard (Yup, Harvard where he graduated cum laude). Coleman was born and raised in NY and moved to MN as an adult. Hmmmm, which one is the "carpetbagger"? |
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