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Seriously? This is who a majority of Republicans said is the guy that speaks for the GOP?

Rush Limbaugh compares Al Franken's win to the recount of Ahmadinejad votes in Iran


LIMBAUGH: Look at this. From Iran's press television, the state-run media in Iran: Ahmadinejad gains votes in recount, just like in our country! It had -- just like in our country. Norm Coleman wins in Minnesota in a recount, and they keep having recounts, and Al Franken wins. So they had the recount in Iran, and shazzam! Ahmadinejad gained votes!

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rush-limbaugh-compares-al-frankens-win (with audio)

The man is going to bluster his party into the toilet.
 
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Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?
 
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Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

according to the people he is as much as anyone


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A poll that says there are many people who think that Limbaugh is the main person to speak for the Republican party doesn't answer my question.

Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

I would say that Obama is the main person speaking for the Democrats, maybe even Pelosi, but neither one is the leader of the DNC.
 
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In my opinion, the majority of Americans have their head up you know where when it comes to politics. They just go along with what the national media and loud mouths say and refuse to think for themselves. There really should be exams people have to take prior to voting.
 
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A poll that says there are many people who think that Limbaugh is the main person to speak for the Republican party doesn't answer my question.

Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

I would say that Obama is the main person speaking for the Democrats, maybe even Pelosi, but neither one is the leader of the DNC.


Do you mean Michael Steele, the Big Fat Liar in Chief's Apologist in Chief?

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"It will come to the table with things that will surprise everyone - off the hook."
Steele, on how the RNC will use hip hop music.

"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly."
Steele, on D.L. Hughley's show.

"My intent was not to go after Rush - I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh. I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. ... There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership."
Steele, publicly apologizing to Limbaugh.

"The mice who are scurrying about the Hill are upset because they no longer have access to the cheese, so they don't know what's going on."

Steele, on fellow Republicans that want him to step down as RNC chair.

"Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice."
Steele, stating he is pro-choice in GQ.

"I am pro-life, always have been, always will be. I tried to present why I am pro-life while recognizing that my mother had a 'choice' before deciding to put me up for adoption."

Steele, backtracking from his pro-choice stance.

"Oh, no. I don’t think I’ve ever really subscribed to that view, that you can turn it on and off like a water tap. Um, you know, I think that there’s a whole lot that goes into the makeup of an individual that, uh, you just can’t simply say, oh, like, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being gay.” It’s like saying, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being black."
Steele in GQ, saying homosexuality is genetic.


This guy can't walk his feet are so deep in his mouth.


Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time!
 
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Seriously? This is who a majority of Republicans said is the guy that speaks for the GOP?

Rush Limbaugh compares Al Franken's win to the recount of Ahmadinejad votes in Iran


LIMBAUGH: Look at this. From Iran's press television, the state-run media in Iran: Ahmadinejad gains votes in recount, just like in our country! It had -- just like in our country. Norm Coleman wins in Minnesota in a recount, and they keep having recounts, and Al Franken wins. So they had the recount in Iran, and shazzam! Ahmadinejad gained votes!

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rush-limbaugh-compares-al-frankens-win (with audio)

The man is going to bluster his party into the toilet.
I have usually seen liberals say that Rush speaks for the GOP, I do not think I have seen republicans do that.


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A poll that says there are many people who think that Limbaugh is the main person to speak for the Republican party doesn't answer my question.

Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

I would say that Obama is the main person speaking for the Democrats, maybe even Pelosi, but neither one is the leader of the DNC.
seawitch says that, and many ohter libs. From the poll it looks like Republicans are the least likely to say that


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Originally posted by iamgonzo:
A poll that says there are many people who think that Limbaugh is the main person to speak for the Republican party doesn't answer my question.

Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

I would say that Obama is the main person speaking for the Democrats, maybe even Pelosi, but neither one is the leader of the DNC.


Do you mean Michael Steele, the Big Fat Liar in Chief's Apologist in Chief?

quote:
"It will come to the table with things that will surprise everyone - off the hook."
Steele, on how the RNC will use hip hop music.

"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly."
Steele, on D.L. Hughley's show.

"My intent was not to go after Rush - I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh. I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. ... There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership."
Steele, publicly apologizing to Limbaugh.

"The mice who are scurrying about the Hill are upset because they no longer have access to the cheese, so they don't know what's going on."

Steele, on fellow Republicans that want him to step down as RNC chair.

"Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice."
Steele, stating he is pro-choice in GQ.

"I am pro-life, always have been, always will be. I tried to present why I am pro-life while recognizing that my mother had a 'choice' before deciding to put me up for adoption."

Steele, backtracking from his pro-choice stance.


"Oh, no. I don’t think I’ve ever really subscribed to that view, that you can turn it on and off like a water tap. Um, you know, I think that there’s a whole lot that goes into the makeup of an individual that, uh, you just can’t simply say, oh, like, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being gay.” It’s like saying, “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna stop being black."
Steele in GQ, saying homosexuality is genetic.


This guy can't walk his feet are so deep in his mouth.


So you don't have a high opinion of Steele, what does that have to do with someone claiming Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?
 
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I'm a Republican, and am proud of that fact.

But, I have NEVER endorsed anything that Rush Limbaugh has spouted...I liken him to an overdone comedian that should have kept his day janitorial job.

From day one in his 'stellar career', I have always felt that he was 5 cans short of a 6 pack.
 
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Who thinks that this is the leader of Allstate insurance? He definately speaks for them.
 
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So you don't have a high opinion of Steele, what does that have to do with someone claiming Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?


Your original question was:
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Originally posted by iamgonzo:
A poll that says there are many people who think that Limbaugh is the main person to speak for the Republican party doesn't answer my question.

Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

I would say that Obama is the main person speaking for the Democrats, maybe even Pelosi, but neither one is the leader of the DNC.



The only someone in this thread saying that Rush is the Leader of the Republican Party is...

Michael Steele--the leader of the RNC.
Tim Kaine, Governor of the once Red state of Virginia, is chairman of the DNC. The names on the office doors are public knowledge.

The question of who's leading the GOP doesn't really have an answer now, does it?


Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time!
 
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I listen to Mike Huckabee. Rush has his moments but Mike makes a lot of sence. Watch him weekends on Fox News.
 
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Rush is a loud and vocal anti-liberal....can't say I hate the man for that.
 
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I remember once Rush made a comment about Blacks not being equal because there was something in their genes that made them different. Ever since that statement I started listening to him because he is correct. Any person with a solid medical background would agree with him.
 
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I listen to Rush when I can. I find him informative, entertaining. However, I would hardly consider him the "leader" of the GOP.

I think that this is actually part of our delimna. Conservatives, by nature, don't do well with self-appointed leaders. We prefer to think for ourselves and follow our own path. That's why you don't routinely find large groups protesting one thing then another. The Conservative Movement would probably be more of a force to be reckoned with with it did have a strong leader. But conservatives don't "follow" real well. We forge our own path. And sometimes, that can hurt you politically.
 
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Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?

according to the people he is as much as anyone


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The poll is interesting -

Democrats overwhelmingly lay leadership of the Republican party at the feet of Cheney and Rush - the two who are the least popular outside the party. Republicans are divided but finished with what is basically a three-way tie between Cheney, Rush, and Newt - unless someone not on the list caged 11+% of the vote hidden away in that 14% "Other" line. So Democrats are making claims with which the Republicans generally agree - all they really say is "Don't forget Newt!"

There is some potential confusion with "speaking for" - some will interpret that as "leading" some will interpret that as "spokesman for". Neither of those really make much of a difference here - either way, the words coming from the person's mouth are considered to be the positions of the party. As an example, I would give the co-ranking of Rush (the "spokesman") with Cheney and Newt (the "leaders").

I am curious about the poll's methodology, specifically with lumping the hardcores together with the leaners - given the percentages, it is very possible that (for example) leaners are calling Rush a leader while hardcores are not - or vice versa.
 
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I remember once Rush made a comment about Blacks not being equal because there was something in their genes that made them different. Ever since that statement I started listening to him because he is correct. Any person with a solid medical background would agree with him.


take your meds
 
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Who says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP?


I say he is. It takes a concerted effort to get the association established, but it is working. Big Grin

Just say it enough times...
 
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I remember once Rush made a comment about Blacks not being equal because there was something in their genes that made them different. Ever since that statement I started listening to him because he is correct. Any person with a solid medical background would agree with him.


take your meds


Yes there is solid science on that one. Roll Eyes They deserve a leader like rush.
 
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I remember once Rush made a comment about Blacks not being equal because there was something in their genes that made them different. Ever since that statement I started listening to him because he is correct. Any person with a solid medical background would agree with him.


I don't know what we're going to do with you. Razz

Of course blacks have gene differences than whites. That goes for the other races as well. That does not mean they're not equal to whites, only that they're different.


How come I pressed "One for English" and still can't understand a word the dude is saying?
 
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Democrats overwhelmingly lay leadership of the Republican party at the feet of Cheney and Rush - the two who are the least popular outside the party. Republicans are divided but finished with what is basically a three-way tie between Cheney, Rush, and Newt - unless someone not on the list caged 11+% of the vote hidden away in that 14% "Other" line. So Democrats are making claims with which the Republicans generally agree - all they really say is "Don't forget Newt!"
I would imagine that the "other" line is not a single name, but many different names...too varied and few to be awarded their own "line".

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There is some potential confusion with "speaking for" - some will interpret that as "leading" some will interpret that as "spokesman for". Neither of those really make much of a difference here - either way, the words coming from the person's mouth are considered to be the positions of the party. As an example, I would give the co-ranking of Rush (the "spokesman") with Cheney and Newt (the "leaders").
And all three deliver a similar message (mostly insane, but similar)

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I am curious about the poll's methodology, specifically with lumping the hardcores together with the leaners - given the percentages, it is very possible that (for example) leaners are calling Rush a leader while hardcores are not - or vice versa.
Talk about a nuanced poll. I would, again, imagine that pollsters say "What is your political party?" or something of that nature. These polls will get very lengthy if pollsters are expected to have people rate their degree of party affiliation. "Are you a little bit Republican or a lot Republican?"

Doesn't Gallup report on the methodology of their polls?
 
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The only someone in this thread saying that Rush is the Leader of the Republican Party is...

Michael Steele--the leader of the RNC.
Tim Kaine, Governor of the once Red state of Virginia, is chairman of the DNC. The names on the office doors are public knowledge.

The question of who's leading the GOP doesn't really have an answer now, does it?


Michael Steele is in this thread? What user name is he using? Big Grin

Is this the quote you posted to show he says Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP
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"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly."
Steele, on D.L. Hughley's show.


I don't read it as him saying Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP, but I guess if you don't know how to read then maybe you could interpret it that way.
 
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The quote you've pulled is the seupt, gonzo:
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"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly."
Steele, on D.L. Hughley's show.


Then, Mr. Steele wises up to reality, and defers to Rush's 'voice and leadership'. I'd love to see him sign up here and give us some quotes to chew on himself---he'd never commit to putting his gems in writing though.

...and that's a shame. He'd have you saying "Rush who?" in about a week.
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"My intent was not to go after Rush - I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh. I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. ... There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership." Steele, publicly apologizing to Limbaugh.


Now go a-way or I shall taunt you a second time!
 
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I say Rush is the leader of the GOP. I say he is anointed by God and I tell everyone I meet.

Seems to be working too.
 
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The quote you've pulled is the seupt, gonzo:
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"Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh — his whole thing is entertainment. He has this incendiary — yes, it's ugly."
Steele, on D.L. Hughley's show.


Then, Mr. Steele wises up to reality, and defers to Rush's 'voice and leadership'. I'd love to see him sign up here and give us some quotes to chew on himself---he'd never commit to putting his gems in writing though.

...and that's a shame. He'd have you saying "Rush who?" in about a week.
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"My intent was not to go after Rush - I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh. I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. ... There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership." Steele, publicly apologizing to Limbaugh.


So Limbaugh is an entertainer, and is outspoken person with followers. Is that Mr. Steele saying Limbaugh is the leader of the GOP? There is a difference between not diminishing a voice and deferring to it. Try and twist it any way you want, those quotes don't show what you are saying.

Dennis Haysbert is an entertainer, he speaks for Allstate and he has followers (http://dennishaysbert.net/Photos-Pictures.aspx). Is he the leader of Allstate? No, he is a hired spokeperson.

Limbaugh is not even hired spokesperson, he is a self appointed spokesperson. If you listen to him he isn't so much a spokesman for the Republican party as much as a spokesman against the Democrats.
 
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I say Rush is the leader of the GOP. I say he is anointed by God and I tell everyone I meet.

Seems to be working too.


You seem to be doing a fantastic job. Big Grin
 
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If it had gone the other way, and Coleman had won the re-count instead of Franken, would Rush "Draft-dodging, Gutless Yellow Coward, Chickenhawk" Limpbutt have complained that Minnesota was just like Iran?

I somehow doubt it.... Wink
 
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If it had gone the other way, and Coleman had won the re-count instead of Franken, would Rush "Draft-dodging, Gutless Yellow Coward, Chickenhawk" Limpbutt have complained that Minnesota was just like Iran?

I somehow doubt it.... Wink


Of course not.

If you listen to him he isn't so much a spokesman for the Republican party as much as a spokesman against the Democrats.
 
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I remember once Rush made a comment about Blacks not being equal because there was something in their genes that made them different. Ever since that statement I started listening to him because he is correct. Any person with a solid medical background would agree with him.



This almost looks like a satirical comment...and a bash on Rush Limbaugh from a staunch Republican regular on P/CP

but you never know...

This reminds of the right wing types that don't get the Colbert Report...could Duster really mean what he's saying here ? Big Grin
 
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