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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:
An interesting tidbit from today's edition of the Federalist Patriot...

Are conservatives harder workers that feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less and even hug their children more than liberals? According to research by Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at Stanford University and the Hoover Institution, the answer is a resounding yes. We are the good guys
In his new book Makers and Takers, Schweizer demonstrates through new data and research that the common liberal stereotype painting conservatives as self-centered, angry, cheating, money-grubbing authoritarians are myth. In fact, Schweizer claims that these negative traits more often apply to liberals, and that his book exposes how: “Liberals are more self-centered than conservatives. Conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. Liberals are more envious and less hardworking than conservatives. Conservatives value truth more than liberals, and are less prone to cheating and lying. Liberals are more angry than conservatives. Conservatives are actually more knowledgeable than liberals. Liberals are more dissatisfied and unhappy than conservatives.” Certainly, Schweizer has discovered nothing we didn’t already know, but this is one book we will be adding to our summer reading list.

It was something we conservatives knew all along...

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:
An interesting tidbit from today's edition of the Federalist Patriot...

Are conservatives harder workers that feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less and even hug their children more than liberals? According to research by Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at Stanford University and the Hoover Institution, the answer is a resounding yes. We are the good guys
In his new book Makers and Takers, Schweizer demonstrates through new data and research that the common liberal stereotype painting conservatives as self-centered, angry, cheating, money-grubbing authoritarians are myth. In fact, Schweizer claims that these negative traits more often apply to liberals, and that his book exposes how: “Liberals are more self-centered than conservatives. Conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. Liberals are more envious and less hardworking than conservatives. Conservatives value truth more than liberals, and are less prone to cheating and lying. Liberals are more angry than conservatives. Conservatives are actually more knowledgeable than liberals. Liberals are more dissatisfied and unhappy than conservatives.” Certainly, Schweizer has discovered nothing we didn’t already know, but this is one book we will be adding to our summer reading list.

It was something we conservatives knew all along...

More dung from the "right". Get over yourself. You ain't all that!!!!

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:
An interesting tidbit from today's edition of the Federalist Patriot...

Are conservatives harder workers that feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less and even hug their children more than liberals? According to research by Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at Stanford University and the Hoover Institution, the answer is a resounding yes. We are the good guys
In his new book Makers and Takers, Schweizer demonstrates through new data and research that the common liberal stereotype painting conservatives as self-centered, angry, cheating, money-grubbing authoritarians are myth. In fact, Schweizer claims that these negative traits more often apply to liberals, and that his book exposes how: “Liberals are more self-centered than conservatives. Conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. Liberals are more envious and less hardworking than conservatives. Conservatives value truth more than liberals, and are less prone to cheating and lying. Liberals are more angry than conservatives. Conservatives are actually more knowledgeable than liberals. Liberals are more dissatisfied and unhappy than conservatives.” Certainly, Schweizer has discovered nothing we didn’t already know, but this is one book we will be adding to our summer reading list.

It was something we conservatives knew all along...

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:
An interesting tidbit from today's edition of the Federalist Patriot...

Are conservatives harder workers that feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less and even hug their children more than liberals? According to research by Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at Stanford University and the Hoover Institution, the answer is a resounding yes. We are the good guys
In his new book Makers and Takers, Schweizer demonstrates through new data and research that the common liberal stereotype painting conservatives as self-centered, angry, cheating, money-grubbing authoritarians are myth. In fact, Schweizer claims that these negative traits more often apply to liberals, and that his book exposes how: “Liberals are more self-centered than conservatives. Conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. Liberals are more envious and less hardworking than conservatives. Conservatives value truth more than liberals, and are less prone to cheating and lying. Liberals are more angry than conservatives. Conservatives are actually more knowledgeable than liberals. Liberals are more dissatisfied and unhappy than conservatives.” Certainly, Schweizer has discovered nothing we didn’t already know, but this is one book we will be adding to our summer reading list.

It was something we conservatives knew all along...

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Alluding to Liberals as the "evil" that we as Christians are instructed to avoid is a broad brush stroke, Pink.

I know plenty of Conservatives that are downers - and arrogant, condescending and, at times, narcissistic. I know Liberals like that, as well.

There is right and wrong, of course. But political alignment is not a key indicator. Again, I will choose to accept people at face value without profiling them due to peripheral factors.

You have a blessed day as well, and thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

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All liberals are evil??

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Originally posted by NOVAMarine:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

COMMENT: Do all of you dress alike and like the same foods as well? That's one of the negative "tags" on the religious right -- a moralistic judging of others who may think differently.

And an interesting earlier comment -- "good" versus "bad" or even "evil." That's not far afield from the extremist thinking in how our enemies categorize us -- and we rightfully (pun intended) condemn them for that slanted philosophy.

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

All liberals are evil?? Even the ones that are fighting and dying on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan and those bravo liberals that fought and died during all other wars? How you can call yourself an American given your views on more than 50% of the American population is a mystery. Your statement is as unAmerican, unchristian as they come. You certainly have no business posting on a military website that has true American's, both liberal and conservative serving in the armed forces so you can freely spew your hate.

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by NOVAMarine:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

COMMENT: Do all of you dress alike and like the same foods as well? That's one of the negative "tags" on the religious right -- a moralistic judging of others who may think differently.

And an interesting earlier comment -- "good" versus "bad" or even "evil." That's not far afield from the extremist thinking in how our enemies categorize us -- and we rightfully (pun intended) condemn them for that slanted philosophy.

One correction, sir:

REAL Christians don't judge - especially when it comes to things such as clothing. Jesus and His Father warn us throughout scripture that to judge another is to practice narcissism, and that we will be judged in the same manner we judge others.

SOME so-called Christians ignore this part of scripture or outright and erroneously justify it in order to paint and label people. This is usually a prodigy of a low self esteem or attempting to cover your own sins and shortcomings by pointing at another and comparing the "level" of their faults as lesser than those of their target. This is completely contradictory to almost all theological teachings. It is the same argument that the KKK uses to justify their persecution of anyone that doesn't look like them or "worship" like them (in quotes because you can't truly worship a loving God with a vengeful heart).

All the right leaning Christians I personally know reserve the right of judgment for God alone, choosing to practice love and tolerance rather than bigotry and bias. Please don't assume that the loudest of the minority represents the quiet, still voice of love and tolerance the majority choose to practice. We try and emulate Jesus: Allowing each his or her own free will and hating the sin but loving the sinner.

That is the way of Christianity.

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

Alluding to Liberals as the "evil" that we as Christians are instructed to avoid is a broad brush stroke, Pink.

I know plenty of Conservatives that are downers - and arrogant, condescending and, at times, narcissistic. I know Liberals like that, as well.

There is right and wrong, of course. But political alignment is not a key indicator. Again, I will choose to accept people at face value without profiling them due to peripheral factors.

You have a blessed day as well, and thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me.

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by NOVAMarine:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

COMMENT: Do all of you dress alike and like the same foods as well? That's one of the negative "tags" on the religious right -- a moralistic judging of others who may think differently.

And an interesting earlier comment -- "good" versus "bad" or even "evil." That's not far afield from the extremist thinking in how our enemies categorize us -- and we rightfully (pun intended) condemn them for that slanted philosophy.

One correction, sir:

REAL Christians don't judge - especially when it comes to things such as clothing. Jesus and His Father warn us throughout scripture that to judge another is to practice narcissism, and that we will be judged in the same manner we judge others.

SOME so-called Christians ignore this part of scripture or outright and erroneously justify it in order to paint and label people. This is usually a prodigy of a low self esteem or attempting to cover your own sins and shortcomings by pointing at another and comparing the "level" of their faults as lesser than those of their target. This is completely contradictory to almost all theological teachings. It is the same argument that the KKK uses to justify their persecution of anyone that doesn't look like them or "worship" like them (in quotes because you can't truly worship a loving God with a vengeful heart).

All the right leaning Christians I personally know reserve the right of judgment for God alone, choosing to practice love and tolerance rather than bigotry and bias. Please don't assume that the loudest of the minority represents the quiet, still voice of love and tolerance the majority choose to practice. We try and emulate Jesus: Allowing each his or her own free will and hating the sin but loving the sinner.

That is the way of Christianity.

Great observation and outstanding post. You may be in the minority on this site, but it's good to know not all so called "conservative Christians" have disdain for the millions that have served that have a different ideolgy than them.

Some gave all in the name of freedom and some like idiot spewing hate gave nothing and yet enjoys the benefits of others' sacrifice. Trash!!!

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:

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Originally posted by NOVAMarine:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by FollowMeInfantry:
Well, I'm a Conservative and Republican Christian, and I'll continue to view people on their merits and actions, rather than their political affiliation.

Why people need to introduce divisiveness is beyond me. No, Mom2APAJ, that's not directed at you at all. You're just the messenger. But the message is insulting to Liberals and Conservatives alike, IMHO. These types of stereotypical classifications serve no one any good.

I'm also a conservative and Republican Christian and found truth in what she posted.

For me, I steer clear of liberals in real life because they're such a downer, among other things (outlined above.) ALL of my family and ALL of my friends are conservatives - not a one of them is a liberal. In my opinion, life is too short to align myself with what I consider negative and/or evil forces. There IS a division, there IS a separation. There IS right and wrong. There always has been. God says to "flee from evil" and that's what I do. Again, it goes back to choices. I choose the right - my conscience dictates it and there is no other choice.

Have a blessed day.

COMMENT: Do all of you dress alike and like the same foods as well? That's one of the negative "tags" on the religious right -- a moralistic judging of others who may think differently.

And an interesting earlier comment -- "good" versus "bad" or even "evil." That's not far afield from the extremist thinking in how our enemies categorize us -- and we rightfully (pun intended) condemn them for that slanted philosophy.

One correction, sir:

REAL Christians don't judge - especially when it comes to things such as clothing. Jesus and His Father warn us throughout scripture that to judge another is to practice narcissism, and that we will be judged in the same manner we judge others.

SOME so-called Christians ignore this part of scripture or outright and erroneously justify it in order to paint and label people. This is usually a prodigy of a low self esteem or attempting to cover your own sins and shortcomings by pointing at another and comparing the "level" of their faults as lesser than those of their target. This is completely contradictory to almost all theological teachings. It is the same argument that the KKK uses to justify their persecution of anyone that doesn't look like them or "worship" like them (in quotes because you can't truly worship a loving God with a vengeful heart).

All the right leaning Christians I personally know reserve the right of judgment for God alone, choosing to practice love and tolerance rather than bigotry and bias. Please don't assume that the loudest of the minority represents the quiet, still voice of love and tolerance the majority choose to practice. We try and emulate Jesus: Allowing each his or her own free will and hating the sin but loving the sinner.

That is the way of Christianity.

Great observation and outstanding post. You may be in the minority on this site, but it's good to know not all so called "conservative Christians" have disdain for the millions that have served that have a different ideolgy than them.

Some gave all in the name of freedom and some like idiot spewing hate gave nothing and yet enjoys the benefits of others' sacrifice. Trash!!!

I would simply observe that I suspect you would find that he is in the majority on this site. I've noted that, in general (there are exceptions) the ones that post on the topic of religion tend to come from the poles, not from the equator.

BTW ... I also found it an excellent post and not just because of the content ... the approach was polite, civil, and respectful, even in disagreement.

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I'm afraid that many of the posters on this forum come from the poles rather than the equator. There's been some pretty nasty things said just because of political disapreement. Some of the contributors to this thread as well as others carry political disagreement to the extremes and that's pretty sad since we're all Americans. And you are usually in the thick of the nasty comments.

For my part, I can handle disagreement on policy, but when a poster uses stereotypes and fails to acknowledge the contribution of the many liberals that have secured freedon for her and this country, I tend to lash out That's an excuse. Members on here are well aware liberals serve in the military...have fought and some died for our freedom. NO ONE has ever negated that..

Her as well as other former "pet trolls" service and sacrifice to this country is noted. Thier ability to trash veterans <<< pure fabricationon a website designed for those that have served and sacrificed is because of the freedoms others have guarenteed with no expectation of service from them. Sigh...more pity party rhetoric.I'd rather they say "thank you" than malign, belittle, and attack. Oh brother! Me thinks you are suffering from lack of enough deitification.

In my opinion, they fall into the same category as those that spat upon our returning Vietnam vets. Do you see a difference between the two camps???One used bodily fluids and the other uses words. Other than that, they are the same. There is simply no accounting for such banal rhetoric.

Thier opposition to diversity socialism and the political discourse is decidedly unAmerican and only serves to weaken, not strengthen this great country.

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I'm personally thankful that I never had to serve under an officer as ridiculously biased and afflicted with BDS as you clearly are

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An interesting tidbit from today's edition of the Federalist Patriot...

Are conservatives harder workers that feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less and even hug their children more than liberals? According to research by Peter Schweizer, a research fellow at Stanford University and the Hoover Institution, the answer is a resounding yes.

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Originally posted by 2494906:
Warning: Conservative here....

If first begin to notice this trend while in college. I remember a PoliSci class we had. On the first day, the professor asked about 40 of us students if we were optimistic or pessimistic. Only three of us raised our hands that we were optimistic. As the semester progressed, it became pretty obvious thru class room discussions who was on what side of the political aisle.

I couldn't help but wonder at that point.... If someone is sitting in a college class room, then I think we can make some basic assumptions: 1.) No one is actively trying to harm them. 2.) They probably have a roof over their head. 3.) They have some means of transportation. 4.) They probably ate at some point during the day. 5.) They most likely have some measure of expendable income. 6.) They have some hope for the future. (This was a night class at a local university.)

If all this is true, then how can you be anything other than optimistic?? I understand that we may not have EVERYTHING in life we might want, but if this is true, then it seems to me that you could be accidentally happy!

Also, ever seen that bumper sticker "If you aren't angry, then you aren't paying attention."? Perfect fit! It seems that not only are they miserable and angry, they won't rest until the rest of us are also....

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Originally posted by IzzyBizzy:

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I'm afraid that many of the posters on this forum come from the poles rather than the equator. There's been some pretty nasty things said just because of political disapreement. Some of the contributors to this thread as well as others carry political disagreement to the extremes and that's pretty sad since we're all Americans. And you are usually in the thick of the nasty comments.

For my part, I can handle disagreement on policy, but when a poster uses stereotypes and fails to acknowledge the contribution of the many liberals that have secured freedon for her and this country, I tend to lash out That's an excuse. Members on here are well aware liberals serve in the military...have fought and some died for our freedom. NO ONE has ever negated that..

Her as well as other former "pet trolls" service and sacrifice to this country is noted. Thier ability to trash veterans <<< pure fabricationon a website designed for those that have served and sacrificed is because of the freedoms others have guarenteed with no expectation of service from them. Sigh...more pity party rhetoric.I'd rather they say "thank you" than malign, belittle, and attack. Oh brother! Me thinks you are suffering from lack of enough deitification.

In my opinion, they fall into the same category as those that spat upon our returning Vietnam vets. Do you see a difference between the two camps???One used bodily fluids and the other uses words. Other than that, they are the same. There is simply no accounting for such banal rhetoric.

Thier opposition to diversity socialism and the political discourse is decidedly unAmerican and only serves to weaken, not strengthen this great country.

Some of the posters are parents and spouses of service members. Some are die-hard supporters of our military. They have every right to share their opinions. Referring to them as un-American is nothing more than your egomaniacal pettiness showing through again.

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I'm personally thankful that I never had to serve under an officer as ridiculously biased and afflicted with BDS as you clearly are

Do I hear a 2nd?

Btw: thanks for serving Weps.

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I would lay dollar to donuts that if that survey were conducted with the prospect of Obama being President and the hope that he will return this country to prosperity and it's world leadership position, those pessimists would be more optimistic.