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Far East Ambassador and Cultural Liason

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Lot of cash, so why is it ok to pay for this, just curious. Our illegal advocates you step and be the ones to pay extra taxes for an illegal fund and support them. Or we can just enforce our laws and penalize both the illegal and businesses



1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal
aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $1.9 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school
lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for
illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/200/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and
secondary school education for children here illegally
and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

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9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American
wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime
rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal
aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a
huge additional crime problem in the US.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION
illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as
many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Homeland Security Report.

http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total
cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal
Immigrants In The United States.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals


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We can thank our liberal judicials for this. Hopefully our government will change this.
 
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Invaders should be capped as soon as they cross the border. End of story. Gun
 
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You guys really crack me up. Where in this do you list how much is add to our economy by them? I am not in favor of our current failed policy, still to demonize the issue does not help.
 
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well where are your statistics on how much they contribute to our economy. I bet you that it is less than 1/5 of what they are sucking from our taxes we pay.
 
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
You guys really crack me up. Where in this do you list how much is add to our economy by them? I am not in favor of our current failed policy, still to demonize the issue does not help.


338 B seeems like a pretty big hole to fill by there wonderful contribution. If you have somehting add it.


I will have an issue when some of my taxes go to pay for them. If I have to pay then they can stay in their countries.

Would you be willing to take on the burden by yourself and others like you? I am sure we can revise the tax code for an 'illegal's contribution' and I think all Haven states and cities it should be mandatory. Money=Mouth
 
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This kind of story reminds of the the story circulating about how our prisons were over run with illegals and foreigners. Bunk, read this story:

link.
 
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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
You guys really crack me up. Where in this do you list how much is add to our economy by them? I am not in favor of our current failed policy, still to demonize the issue does not help.


338 B seeems like a pretty big hole to fill by there wonderful contribution. If you have somehting add it.


I will have an issue when some of my taxes go to pay for them. If I have to pay then they can stay in their countries.

Would you be willing to take on the burden by yourself and others like you? I am sure we can revise the tax code for an 'illegal's contribution' and I think all Haven states and cities it should be mandatory. Money=Mouth


Why don't you go get some numbers and then we can discuss it.
 
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Don't change the topic of this thread. How about answering our questions.
 
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
You guys really crack me up. Where in this do you list how much is add to our economy by them? I am not in favor of our current failed policy, still to demonize the issue does not help.


338 B seeems like a pretty big hole to fill by there wonderful contribution. If you have somehting add it.


I will have an issue when some of my taxes go to pay for them. If I have to pay then they can stay in their countries.

Would you be willing to take on the burden by yourself and others like you? I am sure we can revise the tax code for an 'illegal's contribution' and I think all Haven states and cities it should be mandatory. Money=Mouth


Why don't you go get some numbers and then we can discuss it.


You're the one that said they put more in. Back it up. I posted links for what i believe.
 
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Don't change the topic of this thread. How about answering our questions.


You had a question? Where?
 
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This kind of story reminds of the the story circulating about how our prisons were over run with illegals and foreigners. Bunk, read this story:

link.


Of course.....all the illegal criminals are out here...runnin' around rapin' robbin' and molestin' just the other day I saw one bothering an elderly couple trying to make it to their car in a parking lot, I took care of the problem for 'em.
 
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Using liberal stinking-thinking, prostitution and drugs would contribute to our economy, so why not legalize them? Roll Eyes


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Sad that we actually have people in not only this post, but this forum that support illegal immigration

Pathetic
 
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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
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Originally posted by GunnyRet03:
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Originally posted by NeoMod:
You guys really crack me up. Where in this do you list how much is add to our economy by them? I am not in favor of our current failed policy, still to demonize the issue does not help.


338 B seeems like a pretty big hole to fill by there wonderful contribution. If you have somehting add it.


I will have an issue when some of my taxes go to pay for them. If I have to pay then they can stay in their countries.

Would you be willing to take on the burden by yourself and others like you? I am sure we can revise the tax code for an 'illegal's contribution' and I think all Haven states and cities it should be mandatory. Money=Mouth


Why don't you go get some numbers and then we can discuss it.


You're the one that said they put more in. Back it up. I posted links for what i believe.


OK here is one estimate from the WSJ (hope that is not to liberal a source).

Link.

The article estimates that it close to $1 trillion.
 
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Using liberal stinking-thinking, prostitution and drugs would contribute to our economy, so why not legalize them? Roll Eyes


And then tax the bejesus out of them...


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Originally posted by NeoMod:
This kind of story reminds of the the story circulating about how our prisons were over run with illegals and foreigners. Bunk, read this story:

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Adult illegal aliens represented 3.1 percent of the total adult population of the country in 2003.1 By comparison, the illegal alien prison population represented a bit more than 4.54 percent of the overall prison population. Therefore, deportable criminal aliens were more than half again as likely to be incarcerated as their share of the population.

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Using liberal stinking-thinking, prostitution and drugs would contribute to our economy, so why not legalize them? Roll Eyes


And then tax the bejesus out of them...


Yeh underground economy with no taxes.
 
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You guys crack me up. Who do you think is propelling this underground economy?

It is the capitalist.

They would love nothing more than to not have to pay taxes and to pay workers whatever the market will bare. And with the supply of workers from the south not being checked, that pay is low. Ah capitalism.....isn't it great!
 
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For NeoMod - perhaps this thread has escaped your attention.



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You guys crack me up. Who do you think is propelling this underground economy?

It is the capitalist.

They would love nothing more than to not have to pay taxes and to pay workers whatever the market will bare. And with the supply of workers from the south not being checked, that pay is low. Ah capitalism.....isn't it great!


And what agenda would WSJ be pushing? Capitalism with a dash of pro-illegal.


Capatalism is great, just co'z one is a capitalists doesnt mean he is for underground economies and law breaking.



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Current levels of immigration are not beneficial to our country’s economy, its fiscal well-being, or the health of our labor market. In fact, immigration is a drain on the economy; the net annual cost of immigration has been estimated at between $67 and $87 billion a year.1 The National Academy of Sciences found that the net fiscal drain on American taxpayers is between $166 and $226 a year per native household. Even studies claiming some modest overall gain for the economy from immigration ($1 to $10 billion a year) have found that it is outweighed by the fiscal cost ($15 to $20 billion a year) to native taxpayers.2 In short, the average native taxpayer is paying for immigration so that large companies can profit by employing immigrants in low-wage positions.

For the rest
 
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Capatalism is great, just co'z one is a capitalists doesnt mean he is for underground economies and law breaking.



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If the underground economy is in fact $1 trillion, there are more than just a few capitalist that are into breaking the law. And if you think the illegals in America are limited to folks from Mexico, you are nuts. Big Grin
 
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The government understands that we need them, and the majority of America as well.If you don't believe me, just look at who's left in the race for POTUS.
 
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14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ". http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The statistic given cover the period from January 1999 through April 2006. 6 years and 4 months. distributing the one million over that time period gives ca 160,000 sex crimes pr year to have been commited by illegal imigrants.

according to United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2006 rapes have held steady at about 100,000 rapes per year in years from 1999 to 2006.

Thus we can conclude that legal us citicens commit minus 60,000 rapes pr year. I am not quite sure how they do this, but I guess with good old US ingenuity anything is possible Wink

Or maybe we should just conclude that that article is bunk.

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