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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
That is to say if God thinks you're right. This you have no way of knowing do you. The Word cautions you to "think not thyself to wise." "His thoughts are not your thoughts." Talk about your food for thought. As we discuss who is the happiest people, liberal or conservatives, I think back on the faces of both. It is said, and I agree, that joy shows in one's face and eyes. I don't know exactly how to post pictures on the board. By the way could someone email me with instructions on that. I would really appreciate it. But as I look at photos of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Larry Craig, and other leaders of the conservative agenda, they don't look very happy to me. Cheney looks like he's about to bite someone's head off. Rumsfeld looks as though he's about to cry. Secretary Rice's smile seems so fake to me except when she's playing the piano. So how can we tell that conservatives are happy people? You guys are always fussing about something. Mostly liberals! You don't like this and you don't like that and you're against this and you're against that. Conservatives seem to find fault in everything; people, the way people act, the music people listen to, the movies people want to watch, the books people want to read. You seem to take issue with everything. How can you be happy with all that on your mind. Especially other people's business that is really none of yours. I've found that trying to run other people's lives do not make one happy. WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
I had to bring this over from another thread because I really would like it addressed and I am anxious to hear the justification for the actions discribed. It seems to me that conservatives seem to be unhappy with a whole lot of things. And it seems as though they are forever worrying that this or that will destroy the fiber of America. Like people are to dumb to make their own decisions if that decision does not line up with the conservative agenda.
Personally, I could care less whether a person is conservative or liberal as long as they don't try to "push" their agenda upon me. I'll make up my own mind thank you very much. And no, I don't have to agree with your way of thinking and that does not diminish me in any way. With all of that said; it may surprise some that liberal groups such as PETA, Green Peace and such get on my nerves as well. I mean if some fool throws paint on my wife's mink.....Well I don't know what will happen, but it won't be good for them.
Please, tell me where and if I'm wrong in this statement.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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Well, I can't say you're wrong as I don't know the Conservatives you know, but I do disagree. As a Conservative, I have never adjudicated for protection from yourself. In that, I'm really more of a Libertarian: Go do what you want to do, kill yourself quickly or slowly, just don't take anyone else with you. I hate it when the government wants to step in and demand I do what's good for me in their eyes. God gave me free will, so I am free to make the wrong decisions. If I want to get sloppy drunk every night and suck down McDonalds burgers, as long as I am not out in public being a danger to others then it's no business of the government. What I see are the liberals pushing things, not us. And again, this is just my opinion, so it's only worth what you paid for it. Who wants to ban the evil guns? Who wants to ban religious practices in public? Who wants Christmas renamed? Who told us it was abuse to spank our own children? Who force feeds us the gay agenda? Who consistently reduces our military? Who biases most major news sources? Who protested the Miss America pageant? Who calls for frivolous lawsuits? Who wanted to ban cigarettes? Who demands that the public schools raise our kids? These are all Liberal traits, and it's not a big stretch to see how they encroach on our personal freedoms. If I spank my kid, I am a child abuser. If I own a gun, I am a danger to society. If I smoke, I bother everyone else. If I say "God" in the classroom, I am biased. If I don't support Affirmative Action, I am a racist. If I vote Republican, I believe in taxes and Christianity. It's on both sides of the party lines, bro. I don't excuse Conservatives because, frankly, they DO have a tendency to play the "it's for the children" game. But so do Liberals. That's politics with this bi-partisan sham of a system: You and I both think we know best, so whoever we align ourselves with is expected to support our ideals. Where do you think all the political disappointment stems from? It's not that there is no God or that He isn't listening. You're probably just asking the wrong questions. |
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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
Great response. Exactly what I was looking for so as to see, both ideologies have flaws. I would classify you more as a Moderate. Again, just my opinion, but conservatives don't have that kind of give and take. It's one way, theirs and that's the only way.
No, you're a Male Chavenist Pig. Check the Department of Labor, White women are the main reciprients of Affirmative Action. And then the races are divided up within it. Don't even know where Blacks fall within the system. I will continue to preach this until the stats change and what you guys think is the truth becomes the truth. As of now, this is a great misconception. Don't know who started it, but at least on this board, I'm going to help it die. WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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Thanks for your sweet concern, Dave. My female relatives (on both sides of my family) have lived long into their 90's ... so I come from good stock. (Living good will do that.)  "Anything easy ain't worth a damn." Woody Hayes (RIP) |
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Mary, Mary - shame on you. Your statement is almost as desperate as Weps trying to play the race/nationality card when he had nothing left to play. If you've read any of my posts regarding the Beast and Obama, you would know that I was ecstatic when the Beast lost to him (or anyone for that matter.) Now don't get me wrong, I'd never vote liberal, but I consider Hillary much more of a threat than Obama. So the lesson here is to know who you are talking to when making such outlandish and seemingly desperate statements.  "Anything easy ain't worth a damn." Woody Hayes (RIP) |
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Sure... if russia keeps ****in around... |
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"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason." -- Benjamin Franklin... Its such an apt description you'd think Ol' Ben knew you well...  |
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I don't think I've ever seen a liberal try to hide his anger. It's usually a point of pride with them. Almost a contest of who can be angrier... To wit: The bumpersticker "If you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention."
They usually wear their anger on their sleeve for the entire world to see. Almost like a badge of honor.... |
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Anything I post on these boards is my opinion only unless accompanied by documented fact. Know that in politics my emotions is with no party. |
It is funny that different people see things so very differently. As for me, I'm always seeing some Republican/Conservative being mad about something or another. Just being on this board for a number of years I see just as many conservatives mouthing off in anger as I do liberals. Just look back over the threads and their posts. Look at the verbage used to discribe liberals. Don't seem very happy to me. WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OURSELVES ALONE DIES WITH US;WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OTHERS AND THE WORLD IS AND REMAINS IMMORTAL |
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Pinkie, Ah, you've won my heart. "Liberal" may be a nasty, dirty word to you, but honey, I think you are one in the making. Don't give up, babe. |
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It's ALL RIGHT to be angry...especially out on mil.com. Case in point is this thread. It served no other purpose, but to divide and incite. |
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And see, Miss Mary Resta, this is the foundation of collective cooperation I try and advocate. We, as Americans, are selfish, self-centered brats. We do exactly as you said we do, divide and incite. One only need to turn on the news and see the political mud slinging and back stabbing that occurs to properly divide us in what I consider a gross violation of what our politicians should be doing, bringing us all together. This entire election cycle, all I've heard is change. But what identifies change? They demand we change health care, but they don't want higher taxes. They want to change the Iraqi war, but demand that they be protected from terrorism. They want to change Republicans in office, so they vote Democrat even though the Democratic candidate is inexperienced and not ready to lead the country. Nothing is going to change. One bad set of circumstances will be replaced with another, equally poor set of changes. In my opinion, change begins with uniting Americans in both voice and spirit. That is, quality of life for all of us, a resounding commitment to be more tolerant, more loving, and more in control of bureaucratic misalignment and side stepping. For 200 years, it has been 'us' versus 'them'. How does THAT better the country? I don't know, Mary... seems to me that only the elitists benefit from the current trend of push me and I push back. Rather than divide and incite, we should all be working together to fix the real issues. If you could rally of all America at a table over beer and hot wings, with a mediator making certain that middle ground was the ultimate goal, I'd wager dollars to donuts that we could come to a compromise that actually benefits the country as a whole. You're a Liberal, Mary, and I am a Conservative Libertarian Moderate. Somewhere in the past, someone convinced us that our way was the only right way, playing with our puppet strings to pit you against me and me against you. We listened and became enemies. Why? Are we both not equal as Americans? Are we both not equal in the eyes of God? Are we both not adults with intelligence enough to seek solution rather than in-fighting over affiliation of title? Are we both not veterans? So what the hell are we arguing about? If we put our heads together, rather than turning away from each other and covering our ears demanding that our way is the only way, I'll bet even two simpletons like us could come to compromises that would benefit both of us. If the rest of America followed suit, we'd all have a better place to live - more secure with a stable economy and freedom and equal opportunity for all. Why does no one see that and continue to allow these self-serving politicians to prod us into complete isolation from each other? You are not my enemy, and I am not yours. Crooked, greedy, self-serving politicians ARE both our enemies, however. By keeping us from making real change, beginning right here and now, they keep the power and peeons like you and me pay the price for a lack of political progress. Sorry for rambling, but I swear that if people would just stop fighting each other, we would return to the days after 9/11 when we all worked collectively. Party lines didn't matter. Income didn't matter. The mansion owners stood side by side with those living in trailer parks. Anti-gunners and those carrying a gun stood next to each other and wept as the fire fighters dug through rubble. Republicans and Democrats sat down and derived solutions, putting their political biases and differences aside in the name of what was best for a now stunned America. Is that what it takes? A disaster, an attack on our soil? How sad it comes to just that. It's not that there is no God or that He isn't listening. You're probably just asking the wrong questions. |
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Another indicator that I see that liberals are generally more angry is how they voice their differences. Most conservatives are content to engage in civil, calm debate. (Of course, there is the occasional idiot on either side...). But you dont' see this with liberals. They make giant signs and gather up in large groups and all chant and yell things. I was in SF and got caught up in a few of these. These people are NOT caring, kind, considerate folks. You normally will not see conservatives voicing the opinions in this venue. (I'll refrain from the obvious "group think mentality" here....)
Of course, there are exceptions on either side. But this has just been my observation.... And I agree, it's okay to be angry. Anger can be healthy. We should get angry when we see injustice in the world. That's a good thing. The danger I see is this: it can't become your identity. It should never become who you are. |
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Bones, you forgot one thing.... Did you bother to count the number of individuals in these pictures you so generously posted? They are all single digits. The idiot conservatives (such as you find here) are all in VERY small groups. The difference is that the other side usually manages to do this in VERY large groups. Our liberal friends easily manage to attract very large crowds for such purposes that is every bit as hate-filled as you sited above.
The other disctinction that I see is that conservatives (at least the ones I know of!) all universally concemn these people. I don't see the same happening from the left. These kook fringe groups can say absolutely anything (such as calling a patriotic warrior a TRAITOR) and no one will concemn it. Our liberal friends manage to get a few thousand of their friends together and be angry. Do me another favor, will you? Look carefully at the pictures you posted... Look at the expression on most (not all) of their faces. They range from happy to thoughtful to prayerful (with a couple of exceptions). I don't see arrogance or anger. For the most part, I see humility. I think you actually helped make my point! Thank you. |
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It is much easier when they don't have jobs or lives and are angry all the time. When you are happy you have less issues. |
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The phrase "Defend Life" is now hateful??? What could be so hateful as to want to defend the life of our most vulnerable citizens? Of all the hot button issues out there, this one of the most interesting... Neither side (in my opinion) is based on erroneous thought. Both sides have a valid point. Does a woman have the right to her own body? Of course! Does the government have the duty to protect its citizens? Yes it does.
We just have to decide which one of these opposing rights trumps the other. |
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  There were more than two thousand at this pro-bush demonstration |
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 Well over 10,000 at this pro Iraq war demonstration. |
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