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People around here like to call me a liberal, although I'm actually a Constitutional Moderate, and a Progressive. But for the sake of argument:

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I have to say that this is one of the most judgmental places I've ever been a part of.

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Some of the judgment is more of a ribbing than anything. Some here take it all way to serious.

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Originally posted by MightyB:

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Some of the judgment is more of a ribbing than anything. Some here take it all way to serious.

I don't know "bigg", many are very serious as they attack another's value system. Just because I don't agree with someone does not mean that I'm wrong or that they are right. For the most part, it's just an opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

Sometimes even when you come with facts from all available information, someone will say; "I don't believe it." It doesn't match up with their belief system. And its really crazy when one's belief system doesn't match up with any known facts.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
We are far stronger in unity than we are by nitpicking all our hangups in differences. All in all we should be what we are and that is AMERICANS.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:
All in all we should be what we are and that is AMERICANS.

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Originally posted by biggatorsc:

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Originally posted by MightyB:

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Some of the judgment is more of a ribbing than anything. Some here take it all way to serious.

I don't know "bigg", many are very serious as they attack another's value system. Just because I don't agree with someone does not mean that I'm wrong or that they are right. For the most part, it's just an opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

Sometimes even when you come with facts from all available information, someone will say; "I don't believe it." It doesn't match up with their belief system. And its really crazy when one's belief system doesn't match up with any known facts.

BTW How you feelin'? All OK?

We are all different B, even in our own races, ideals and beleifs, in amongst all that we all have similarities tho, so its cool, we can agree and we can disagree, thats how it should be anyway, I think thats how MLK and others wanted it. We are far stronger in unity than we are by nitpicking all our hangups in differences. All in all we should be what we are and that is AMERICANS.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:
My happiness and optimism is internal. It isn't dependent on external circumstances. I think that's what makes the difference. Liberals tend to let external circumstances dictate their internal emotions.

I'm not willing to surrender that to someone else. I OWN those emotions and feelings; not someone else. There are very few people on this planet who can affect my happiness. It is an extremely exclusive club.

And now that you mention it... I received my degree in Jan 2001 (had to go look at the diploma!). Once again, proving (or at least suggesting) that happiness for most liberals has nothing to do with circumstances. They just tend to be angry all the time.

I'm not willing to join them...

BINGO! I also refuse to join. They are not only the 'enemy within' in this country, they are the enemy within themselves. They simply cannot get out of their own way. There was a time I pitied them, but not anymore.

After years of being exposed to liberals on the internet (since I reject them in real life), I can't tell you how many times I've thanked my parents for bringing me up right. There's a positive that came out of a negative.

Good for you for speaking up on the side of righteousness.

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BTW How you feelin'? All OK?

We are all different B, even in our own races, ideals and beleifs, in amongst all that we all have similarities tho, so its cool, we can agree and we can disagree, thats how it should be anyway, I think thats how MLK and others wanted it. We are far stronger in unity than we are by nitpicking all our hangups in differences. All in all we should be what we are and that is AMERICANS.

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Originally posted by 2494906:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:
My happiness and optimism is internal. It isn't dependent on external circumstances. I think that's what makes the difference. Liberals tend to let external circumstances dictate their internal emotions.

I'm not willing to surrender that to someone else. I OWN those emotions and feelings; not someone else. There are very few people on this planet who can affect my happiness. It is an extremely exclusive club.

And now that you mention it... I received my degree in Jan 2001 (had to go look at the diploma!). Once again, proving (or at least suggesting) that happiness for most liberals has nothing to do with circumstances. They just tend to be angry all the time.

I'm not willing to join them...

BINGO! I also refuse to join. They are not only the 'enemy within' in this country, they are the enemy within themselves. They simply cannot get out of their own way. There was a time I pitied them, but not anymore.

After years of being exposed to liberals on the internet (since I reject them in real life), I can't tell you how many times I've thanked my parents for bringing me up right. There's a positive that came out of a negative.

Good for you for speaking up on the side of righteousness.

Of course, I see the evil in the world. And while this certainly motivates me do certain things, it DOES NOT determine my happiness. I'm not prepared to give up that power, especially to someone whom I never meet and lives at some mysterious address in DC.

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

If you can't change the people around you, then CHANGE the people around you.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:
My happiness and optimism is internal. It isn't dependent on external circumstances. I think that's what makes the difference. Liberals tend to let external circumstances dictate their internal emotions.

I'm not willing to surrender that to someone else. I OWN those emotions and feelings; not someone else. There are very few people on this planet who can affect my happiness. It is an extremely exclusive club.

And now that you mention it... I received my degree in Jan 2001 (had to go look at the diploma!). Once again, proving (or at least suggesting) that happiness for most liberals has nothing to do with circumstances. They just tend to be angry all the time.

I'm not willing to join them...

BINGO! I also refuse to join. They are not only the 'enemy within' in this country, they are the enemy within themselves. They simply cannot get out of their own way. There was a time I pitied them, but not anymore.

After years of being exposed to liberals on the internet (since I reject them in real life), I can't tell you how many times I've thanked my parents for bringing me up right. There's a positive that came out of a negative.

Good for you for speaking up on the side of righteousness.

Of course, I see the evil in the world. And while this certainly motivates me do certain things, it DOES NOT determine my happiness. I'm not prepared to give up that power, especially to someone whom I never meet and lives at some mysterious address in DC.

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

If you can't change the people around you, then CHANGE the people around you.

I appreciate your post, especially your last sentence. Good food for thought and I have no problem ending an association when liberal tendencies start to surface. I'm outta there, pronto!

Also, I don't think we can change anyone. In my experience, if one is of a liberal mindset and value system, only God can change him/her. Frankly, my numbered days are too valuable to hang around and see if they change. I simply distance myself from them. I have to - as I said, my conscience dictates it. And I'm glad for that.

Further, I realize I'm blessed in that there's not even one libby in my family - and I come from a big one. As for friends, I have found that the dearest and closest ones are those that share my beliefs, family values and love of life. Totally trustworthy! I've become much more selective in the friend category as the years have gone by and it's working well for me. That's the usual result of following that inner voice we are given.

Thanks again for the food for thought and you take care of your smart self!

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How, pray tell, did black people, Italians and jews get involved with my happiness?? They aren't responsible for my happiness (or lack thereof). I am!

Of course, I am concerned about the plight of others, particularly those less fortunate. But I fail to see how me being miserable is going to make them happy!

If you want to insist on your being miserable, I don't suppose I can do a lot about that. But I just can't see where you being angry is going to help one single poor person, one AIDS victim, a solitary Katrina victim or an orphan anywhere. I don't see how you being unhappy and angry is going to make life better for someone else. I don't need anger to motivate me to help others. I do it out a genuine love for my fellow man; not anger.

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Originally posted by 2494906:
How, pray tell, did black people, Italians and jews get involved with my happiness?? They aren't responsible for my happiness (or lack thereof). I am!

Of course, I am concerned about the plight of others, particularly those less fortunate. But I fail to see how me being miserable is going to make them happy!

If you want to insist on your being miserable, I don't suppose I can do a lot about that. But I just can't see where you being angry is going to help one single poor person, one AIDS victim, a solitary Katrina victim or an orphan anywhere. I don't see how you being unhappy and angry is going to make life better for someone else. I don't need anger to motivate me to help others. I do it out a genuine love for my fellow man; not anger.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
WepsFP

Seems there is a strong effort to paint anyone against McCain as unhappy. Far from the truth. With the Uhaul in waiting around the corner from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, how could we possibly be unhappy..... no matter what happens in this election?

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Originally posted by MightyB:

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BTW How you feelin'? All OK?

We are all different B, even in our own races, ideals and beleifs, in amongst all that we all have similarities tho, so its cool, we can agree and we can disagree, thats how it should be anyway, I think thats how MLK and others wanted it. We are far stronger in unity than we are by nitpicking all our hangups in differences. All in all we should be what we are and that is AMERICANS.

Brother I'm doing so good I'm scared they may come get me to experiment on why I'm doing so good.

I'm walking three days a week for 30 - 40 minutes. Legs ache like heck because I lost over 40 lbs after the surgery, most of it muscle. I'm building up the arms with light weights so I'm sore all over. But I've always been an exerciser so for the most part, it feels good. Lets me know muscle is still there.

Saw my doctor yesterday and she was estatic about how I'm doing, my blood work stats, and the weight I've put back on. That really gives me positive energy. Thanks for asking My Man.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change." (Other people, places, and things)

"The courage to change the things I can." (Me)

"And the wisdom to know the difference." (I'm going to be me no matter who someone else choses to be. Whether in my sphere or not, you can't get away from everyone you've got to interact at some point with all kinds, I am going to be me. They can't change who I am because they never had that power and never will.

Also, I will not limit myself with only those who are like minded because there is nothing to learn from them. We already agree so where do we go from there? Personally, I like to be challenged. I like to place my thoughts against those who have other ideas.

And when, sometimes, my thoughts and ideas hold their own, this gives me a sense of having a grasp of the situation. When they don't and I'm exposed to another form of thought, am I not the richer, and perhaps the wisher? One thing I've learned in my years on this ball of mud is the fact that when you believe you know it all, you are wrong.

I believe that when I can't be taught anything anymore, I'll be taking a dirt nap.

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:
The most humorous aspect of the whole original post was that I found its tongue-in-cheek observations, while truthful, hilarious... and completely opposite of what the MSM touts daily about "Conservatives" and "people of faith"

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

Study after study has shown people who have a 'faith in a higher being' are more balanced, suffer from less alcohol or drug related issues, have happier more stable home lives and are generally more satisified with their 'quality of life' than others.

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Originally posted by Mom2APAJ:

I don't mind that the flaming liberals on this forum disagree with me... their posts were completely expected and proved the point better than I ever could... I find them disagreeable people on the whole, cranky, hateful and quick to resort to childish name calling and mean spirited behavior...

It is one of my favorite expression and I use it with Supervisors and Employees alike... facts are facts, don't whine about it... Put on your big girl panties and deal with it.

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Originally posted by 2494906:
I don't have any problem associating with people of liberal view, per se. It's when they venture off into "the sky is falling" mode is when I cut lose of those people. I can handle the view and arguments all day long; no problem. But the constant negative, woah-is-me... I just can't stomach that!

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:
My happiness and optimism is internal. It isn't dependent on external circumstances. I think that's what makes the difference. Liberals tend to let external circumstances dictate their internal emotions.

I'm not willing to surrender that to someone else. I OWN those emotions and feelings; not someone else. There are very few people on this planet who can affect my happiness. It is an extremely exclusive club.

And now that you mention it... I received my degree in Jan 2001 (had to go look at the diploma!). Once again, proving (or at least suggesting) that happiness for most liberals has nothing to do with circumstances. They just tend to be angry all the time.

I'm not willing to join them...

BINGO! I also refuse to join. They are not only the 'enemy within' in this country, they are the enemy within themselves. They simply cannot get out of their own way. There was a time I pitied them, but not anymore.

After years of being exposed to liberals on the internet (since I reject them in real life), I can't tell you how many times I've thanked my parents for bringing me up right. There's a positive that came out of a negative.

Good for you for speaking up on the side of righteousness.

Of course, I see the evil in the world. And while this certainly motivates me do certain things, it DOES NOT determine my happiness. I'm not prepared to give up that power, especially to someone whom I never meet and lives at some mysterious address in DC.

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

If you can't change the people around you, then CHANGE the people around you.

I appreciate your post, especially your last sentence. Good food for thought and I have no problem ending an association when liberal tendencies start to surface. I'm outta there, pronto!

Also, I don't think we can change anyone. In my experience, if one is of a liberal mindset and value system, only God can change him/her. Frankly, my numbered days are too valuable to hang around and see if they change. I simply distance myself from them. I have to - as I said, my conscience dictates it. And I'm glad for that.

Further, I realize I'm blessed in that there's not even one libby in my family - and I come from a big one. As for friends, I have found that the dearest and closest ones are those that share my beliefs, family values and love of life. Totally trustworthy! I've become much more selective in the friend category as the years have gone by and it's working well for me. That's the usual result of following that inner voice we are given.

Thanks again for the food for thought and you take care of your smart self!

How about black people, or jewish people or Italians? Do they rub you the wrong way too?

You should be careful. Someday something bad might befall you and the only one to save you from pain and angusih return you to your "conservative family" just might be a "libby". Hopefully they won't base thier decision to render aid upon your warped political beliefs.

Don't burn too many bridges sister, you never know when you might need to cross one.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
WepsFP

Seems there is a strong effort to paint anyone against McCain as unhappy.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
WepsFP

Seems there is a strong effort to paint anyone against McCain as unhappy.

"anyone" .... Be careful in your word selection, dmuhler.

I'm against McCain and Obama, but ecstatic that the Beast is out of the race ... if Obama can stay alive that long. (Don't count her out yet.) I mentioned that concern at the Obama state fair booth and they said they "are aware of" the public's concern for his physical safety. So, there you go. A tidbit for you.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:
... if Obama can stay alive that long. (Don't count her out yet.) I mentioned that concern at the Obama state fair booth and they said they "are aware of" the public's concern for his physical safety. So, there you go. A tidbit for you.

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by WepsFP:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:

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Originally posted by PinkBlossoms:

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Originally posted by 2494906:
My happiness and optimism is internal. It isn't dependent on external circumstances. I think that's what makes the difference. Liberals tend to let external circumstances dictate their internal emotions.

I'm not willing to surrender that to someone else. I OWN those emotions and feelings; not someone else. There are very few people on this planet who can affect my happiness. It is an extremely exclusive club.

And now that you mention it... I received my degree in Jan 2001 (had to go look at the diploma!). Once again, proving (or at least suggesting) that happiness for most liberals has nothing to do with circumstances. They just tend to be angry all the time.

I'm not willing to join them...

BINGO! I also refuse to join. They are not only the 'enemy within' in this country, they are the enemy within themselves. They simply cannot get out of their own way. There was a time I pitied them, but not anymore.

After years of being exposed to liberals on the internet (since I reject them in real life), I can't tell you how many times I've thanked my parents for bringing me up right. There's a positive that came out of a negative.

Good for you for speaking up on the side of righteousness.

Of course, I see the evil in the world. And while this certainly motivates me do certain things, it DOES NOT determine my happiness. I'm not prepared to give up that power, especially to someone whom I never meet and lives at some mysterious address in DC.

Some people aren't happy unless they are miserable.

If you can't change the people around you, then CHANGE the people around you.

I appreciate your post, especially your last sentence. Good food for thought and I have no problem ending an association when liberal tendencies start to surface. I'm outta there, pronto!

Also, I don't think we can change anyone. In my experience, if one is of a liberal mindset and value system, only God can change him/her. Frankly, my numbered days are too valuable to hang around and see if they change. I simply distance myself from them. I have to - as I said, my conscience dictates it. And I'm glad for that.

Further, I realize I'm blessed in that there's not even one libby in my family - and I come from a big one. As for friends, I have found that the dearest and closest ones are those that share my beliefs, family values and love of life. Totally trustworthy! I've become much more selective in the friend category as the years have gone by and it's working well for me. That's the usual result of following that inner voice we are given.

Thanks again for the food for thought and you take care of your smart self!

How about black people, or jewish people or Italians? Do they rub you the wrong way too?

You should be careful. Someday something bad might befall you and the only one to save you from pain and angusih return you to your "conservative family" just might be a "libby". Hopefully they won't base thier decision to render aid upon your warped political beliefs.

Don't burn too many bridges sister, you never know when you might need to cross one.

Weps, your "question" is asinine, but typical liberal spin off and I'll consider the source.

"How about blacks, Jewish or Italians?" you asked ...

Where, or where in your libby head did that come from, Weps? Yikes! Is that what you're now substituting for your usual name-calling tirades? Yikes.

Thanks for confirming everything I've said to date about liberals.

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
I know you cons have a difficult time with the sciences, but please. Do you even know what his degree is in? Let me give you a clue: this paper will never be included in any peer review nor any scholarly journal. But don't feel bad I am sure that worldnetdaily will reprint it.