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Originally posted by billbright:


Any comment on WHY?


It will probably be better explained later, BUT, this is coming down from the Very Top.... and we will need to make the best of it.

It will work.... take some getting used to, but will work. Many posts already have no links.... they are usually posted when someone asks for documantation, or to back up a quote.....

Worse things have changed before, and we survived... this crowd can do it.


I will be interested in finding out why myself. And, just out of curiosity, who is the "Very Top?"


"Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go." -- William Feather
 
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!
 
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


Can you post a link...lol Wink


"Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go." -- William Feather
 
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Well, if you want to turn it into a girl scout cookie bake site. Press right on. No point in hanging around as nothing worth discussion will be posted after this. Homes and gardens already has a site. Guerss some folks simply cannot handle controversy.

"Free Speech", what a joke on the site populated by defenders of that idea...

Have a nice bake sale!
 
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Originally posted by alcyone:
Well, if you want to turn it into a girl scout cookie bake site. Press right on. No point in hanging around as nothing worth discussion will be posted after this. Homes and gardens already has a site. Guerss some folks simply cannot handle controversy.

"Free Speech", what a joke on the site populated by defenders of that idea...

Have a nice bake sale!


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Originally posted by sethkonigsbergrn:
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
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Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


Can you post a link...lol Wink


2nd that
 
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Originally posted by hooah71:
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Originally posted by sethkonigsbergrn:
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
quote:
Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


Can you post a link...lol Wink


2nd that


3rd that. just leave a space between the "www" and the site.
 
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Wow. I wander in after a month and find idiotic horse squeeze like this.

I shouldn't be surprised. I have better things to do.

Bye.
 
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Originally posted by navy8086:
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Originally posted by mainedawg:
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Originally posted by navy8086:
So I guess here's the upshot, my fellow Mil.com posters. None of us OWN this site, nor do we pay for it's use. AS such those that due oewn the site can make ANY rules they want. Therefore as I see it, we have one of 3 choice left to us.

1> STFU and live with the new rules.

2> Move on to another site that NOT so draconian

3> Keep screwing around until one of the Mods if forced to pick us off.

I think that about sums it up.


NO ONE IS TRYING TO PICK PEOPLE OFF. THIS WHAT THE OWNERS OF THE SITE WANT.

MAINEDAWG
MODERATOR


Dawg,
That's the point of my post THE SITE OWNERS want these changes.

Note I used the words "... IS FORCED ... ". I KNOW you Mods DON'T want to do this if you don't have to.
But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.


But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.

AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED. This is a for profit site. They make no money keeping these boards open. Some will go to the sites listed that pay for a spot here. Most just post and have fun. The few will always hurt the rest of us here. No disagreement here, I don't want anyone spoiling my fun either.

I like it here and will continue to post.

Ditto, I'm not planning on moving on yet.

I was spanked some time ago for my links from the Admin here. I took it like a man and moved on. Same here and you were the one that did the spanking ... I have made a lot of good friends that I will have for the rest of my life. I hope I'm counted among themFor that I am very greatfull to this site.

Some people will need to move on. Some of them should have moved on long ago. THre are some of us that inertia sorta keeps us in place Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by pken:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dmuhler:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pken:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


They'll get threatened/sued into submission soon enough - - Roll Eyes


Wandering and Wondering
 
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Originally posted by greywolfghost:
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Originally posted by pken:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dmuhler:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pken:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


They'll get threatened/sued into submission soon enough - - Roll Eyes


Shakespear had the right idea about liars
errrr, I meant LAWYERS ... Angry Whip Big Grin
 
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Whoever owns this site has the right to set whatever rules they want. However, if they are going to do it be honest about it, and give a reason or no reason at all. Just don't make stuff up about copyrights and hyperlinks. There is no copyright difference in posting "www.cnn.com" and posting a hyperlink.

It is all revenue and advertiser related, which is fine it is a for profit company. They can make whatever rules they want, but to make it seem like they were forced to do this because of copyright laws just isn't right.
 
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Originally posted by alcyone:
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Originally posted by hooah71:
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Originally posted by sethkonigsbergrn:
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Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by dmuhler:
quote:
Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


Can you post a link...lol Wink


2nd that


3rd that. just leave a space between the "www" and the site.


No "whiskey-whiskey-whiskey" just; uniform, sierra, mike, india, lima, victor, echo, tango, sierra, dot, oscar, romeo, golf.

Or try h t t p://usmilvets.org/index.php (minus the spaces)

See you on the other side.
 
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Originally posted by navy8086:
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Originally posted by navy8086:
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Originally posted by mainedawg:
quote:
Originally posted by navy8086:
So I guess here's the upshot, my fellow Mil.com posters. None of us OWN this site, nor do we pay for it's use. AS such those that due oewn the site can make ANY rules they want. Therefore as I see it, we have one of 3 choice left to us.

1> STFU and live with the new rules.

2> Move on to another site that NOT so draconian

3> Keep screwing around until one of the Mods if forced to pick us off.

I think that about sums it up.


NO ONE IS TRYING TO PICK PEOPLE OFF. THIS WHAT THE OWNERS OF THE SITE WANT.

MAINEDAWG
MODERATOR


Dawg,
That's the point of my post THE SITE OWNERS want these changes.

Note I used the words "... IS FORCED ... ". I KNOW you Mods DON'T want to do this if you don't have to.
But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.


But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.

AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED. This is a for profit site. They make no money keeping these boards open. Some will go to the sites listed that pay for a spot here. Most just post and have fun. The few will always hurt the rest of us here. No disagreement here, I don't want anyone spoiling my fun either.

I like it here and will continue to post.

Ditto, I'm not planning on moving on yet.

I was spanked some time ago for my links from the Admin here. I took it like a man and moved on. Same here and you were the one that did the spanking ... I have made a lot of good friends that I will have for the rest of my life. I hope I'm counted among themFor that I am very greatfull to this site.

Some people will need to move on. Some of them should have moved on long ago. THre are some of us that inertia sorta keeps us in place Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


What "OWNERS" fail to understand is that WE (the customers) arn't FORCED to "buy their product" Their "ownership" is meaningless if they drive off their customers. It a paticipatory relationship on both sides of the "ownership" fence. Military dot com was providing a SERVICE. They had ads all over the site to support that service. When they cease to SERVE, then their usefulness to their customers disappears. And eventually THEY will disappear (or be so totally changed that "military dot come" won't be an appropriate discription for what they have become.

To remove the links may not have such a horrible impact on the other sections of the site, but for point-counterpoint, it is a death knell as you cannot then really substanciate your points in a useful manner when challenged.
What they HAVE done though is successfully "SILENCED" any areas that may have been controversal. There is a current of such activity flowing in many areaas of the Nation to silence descent, especially with the "OWNERS" (Read that as corporate america) of many of our resources an means of communication. At least the Comminist Chinese had a wall where one could put up contraversal topics, but guess we don't have that kind of freedom in an "ownership" society...(Where "They" own and we are slugs)
 
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Posted
quote:
Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by dmuhler:
quote:
Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


that would be 171 cons....like I said a one legged azz kicking contest.
 
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Originally posted by alcyone:
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Originally posted by navy8086:
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Originally posted by navy8086:
quote:
Originally posted by mainedawg:
quote:
Originally posted by navy8086:
So I guess here's the upshot, my fellow Mil.com posters. None of us OWN this site, nor do we pay for it's use. AS such those that due oewn the site can make ANY rules they want. Therefore as I see it, we have one of 3 choice left to us.

1> STFU and live with the new rules.

2> Move on to another site that NOT so draconian

3> Keep screwing around until one of the Mods if forced to pick us off.

I think that about sums it up.


NO ONE IS TRYING TO PICK PEOPLE OFF. THIS WHAT THE OWNERS OF THE SITE WANT.

MAINEDAWG
MODERATOR


Dawg,
That's the point of my post THE SITE OWNERS want these changes.

Note I used the words "... IS FORCED ... ". I KNOW you Mods DON'T want to do this if you don't have to.
But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.


But it is a reality that chronic offenders ARE removed.

AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED. This is a for profit site. They make no money keeping these boards open. Some will go to the sites listed that pay for a spot here. Most just post and have fun. The few will always hurt the rest of us here. No disagreement here, I don't want anyone spoiling my fun either.

I like it here and will continue to post.

Ditto, I'm not planning on moving on yet.

I was spanked some time ago for my links from the Admin here. I took it like a man and moved on. Same here and you were the one that did the spanking ... I have made a lot of good friends that I will have for the rest of my life. I hope I'm counted among themFor that I am very greatfull to this site.

Some people will need to move on. Some of them should have moved on long ago. THre are some of us that inertia sorta keeps us in place Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


What "OWNERS" fail to understand is that WE (the customers) arn't FORCED to "buy their product" Their "ownership" is meaningless if they drive off their customers. It a paticipatory relationship on both sides of the "ownership" fence. Military dot com was providing a SERVICE. They had ads all over the site to support that service. When they cease to SERVE, then their usefulness to their customers disappears. And eventually THEY will disappear (or be so totally changed that "military dot come" won't be an appropriate discription for what they have become.

To remove the links may not have such a horrible impact on the other sections of the site, but for point-counterpoint, it is a death knell as you cannot then really substanciate your points in a useful manner when challenged.
What they HAVE done though is successfully "SILENCED" any areas that may have been controversal. There is a current of such activity flowing in many areaas of the Nation to silence descent, especially with the "OWNERS" (Read that as corporate america) of many of our resources an means of communication. At least the Comminist Chinese had a wall where one could put up contraversal topics, but guess we don't have that kind of freedom in an "ownership" society...(Where "They" own and we are slugs)



It's a VAST RIGHT-WINGED CONSPIRACY, right!
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
 
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Some of you might like to try arrse.co.uk, it can get silly and it is very British (albeit with a multinational section) but it isn't so busy trying to make money that it invents silly rules.
 
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
quote:
Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


that would be 171 cons....like I said a one legged azz kicking contest.


Bring all the legs you want.......
 
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Here's the upcoming legislation alluded to earlier:

[=http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1733]http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1733[/URL]

There is legislation coming down the pipe that can be a huge burden to you if you're an artist or writer. I happen to be both. In an effort to help large contributors, people like Disney, Pixar, news and magazine moguls, and other special interests, draconian limitations on copyright are in the works.

Republicans, bless their pea-picking hearts, are going to see to it that special commercial (as in non-governmental) copyright warehouses are to be set up; these warehouses will be able to charge whatthehellever they feel like; and an artist or writer will have to get a paid-for copyright--the price of which will be determined by these vultures ...something which is presently automatic. And, if someone sees your work, likes it, and does "due diligence" in trying to find you and can't, they can use your work.

It's a bullsht law. It means that creative people who already have a helluva time trying to get their work sold will now have extra expense and time spent protecting it, and the protection will amount to nothing because they won't be able to afford to legally fend off the Pixar's, Times's, and Disney's.

And... of course, there'll be a shakeout in the internet: limitations of free speech will be augmented by whatever the FCC and Homeland Security think are appropriate to shape our thoughts.

The AFA will be proud.

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Why do the links look so odd?
 
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Why do the links look so odd?


Because of the thought police.

If I were a mod that was asked to enforce the farce, I would quit. I'm surprised some haven't already.
 
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usmilvets has the coooolest smileys Big Grin
 
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LINK? What Links?
 
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LINK? What Links?


Boy am I really confused, because all the links look the same.... whether you made them yourselves from an external link or not.

Isn't that the same?
How are external links going to be controlled if you know how to use "html code"?

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LINK? What Links?


Boy and I really confused, because all the links look the same.... whether you made them yourselves from an external link or not.

Isn't that the same?
How are external links going to be controlled if you know how to use "html code"?


Just being facetious KL, I didn't post a link. That was the point I thought.
 
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I'll try to make this a brief and coherent 2¢ worth.

If I throw a free party and invite everybody, I have to expect to see all kinds. If I insist that MY rules be observed in MY house, I am within my rights and have the absolute authority to require everyone to OBEY the (excluding illegal acts, of course). I may welcome, even invite, suggestions but don't have to...it's MY house and MY party. If, for any reason, and I mean ANY reason, someone doesn't like my rules or breaks them, I will boot him out (maybe give warnings or explanations...maybe not). On the other hand, every free guest is free to leave at any time, bye.

I have absolutely no problem with private ownership or marketing or profits. I won't presume to know better than the owner how to run his business. On the other hand, I reserve the right to take my business elsewhere.

Seems a lot of the b itching and criticim is totally uncalled for and out of line. As Navy8086 put it, there are 3 chioces, pick one. Nothing is forever.
 
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Well, if you want to turn it into a girl scout cookie bake site. Press right on. No point in hanging around as nothing worth discussion will be posted after this. Homes and gardens already has a site. Guerss some folks simply cannot handle controversy.

"Free Speech", what a joke on the site populated by defenders of that idea...

Have a nice bake sale!
Looks like we may need to press a new batch of 'Hysterical Over-reaction' badges, they're shifting faster than the cookies...

You can't be controversial without links? Quote your source, name the source, and let posters Google it if they are doubtful.

This isn't really a free speech issue (although free speech isn't guaranteed by any internet forum, anyway).
 
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Originally posted by pken:
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Originally posted by dmuhler:
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Originally posted by pken:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Buck II:
U.S.MilVets.com has no such rules. Many folks will go there......is that the mission?


Yes, it is a great place....a recent start up......but growing fast.


Magpie's place???

Up to a 166 members I see. The place is hopping, like a one legged azz kicking contest. Big Grin


Apparently, there are now 5 new member's since you posted this. now 171 and it will grow, as friends reunite over there. Come on over Dmuhler! It needs your scepticism!


that would be 171 cons....like I said a one legged azz kicking contest.


OK Dave, I resemble that remark! Big Grin
 
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I put out feelers with several tech contacts and asked their opinions about what is going on here. It's as most people suspect - all about the money.

Of all my contacts, two Web Developers had the best insight: They suspect that Military Advantage's visitors may have dropped-off and that one way of countering that (and not losing ad revenue) would be looping all links back into themselves in order to drive them back up. They initially suspected that it might also be a way of keeping those on the site from clicking off, however, since opening a new link does not automatically close the old one, they don't think that's the case.

This is a scheme for Military Advantage to skew their own numbers so they can screw their own advertisers out of more money; but they need you - the faithful member - to be their pawns. Won't you lend a hand?

From my insight, it would also have the double advantage of killing Point/Counterpoint. This forum causes them the most problems, and they wouldn't miss it a bit. However, they would probably miss the membership.
 
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This change seems quite odd. I don't think I've ever encountered a message board, (of decent size), that doesn't allow members to post links. Confused
 
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