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Originally posted by Motive25:
Too bad- I learn a lot from the outside links people post.

I've always believed that if it gets posted on the WWW, it is fair game for cross-posting.

I think someone is practicing defensive/preemptive lawyering.

The rules say you cannot LINK. I didn't see anything about providing addresses. the "post a reply" box automatically changes anything that looks like addy into a URL link.

for instance, http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893...991001#4520018991001

can be written 'http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/7670097991001?r=4520018991001#4520018991001'

or *http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/7670097991001?r=4520018991001#4520018991001*
without auto changing them to links

How hard is it to cut and paste, or highlight and drag?

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Originally posted by billbright:

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Originally posted by KJ1110:
Hmmmm! The last couple of times things have "come down from the very top," there were huge Exoduses of membership elsewhere, many of which have never returned!

This does not bode well!

My suggestion: if you have an outside link, simply paste the word DOT in place of the dot. We can translate that easily enough.

This has become the worlds most rinky-dink place. I can see why it's called Military dot com... it's a general military style cluster fk.

You got that right

I am assuming that all of the notices posted at the top of the forums will be changed to meet these new requirements.

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Originally posted by hooah71:
We lost a lot of fine members the last time this stunt was pulled just "in the news" section. Are the powers that be trying to remove what's left of the fine members?

Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

The discussion forum folks here have zero to say about that side of it.

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THIS MEANS THAT UNLESS YOU are linking within Military.com, to a "dot-mil" website or to one found in our Military and Veteran Associations page, OUTSIDE LINKS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
Zack
Lead Moderator
Hot Topics Forums

Just want to double check this with you... since my site "IS" found in your Military and Veteran Associations page, can I get my link reinstated in that one thread where it was removed as spam?

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Originally posted by Timeless22:
I am assuming that all of the notices posted at the top of the forums will be changed to meet these new requirements.

Rob is going to be posting them when he has finished revising them.

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Originally posted by TrollhunterX:
Why do you think these changes will only be of benefit to the 'left'? Because of all the links to NRO, Human Events, and even Frontpage Magazine? The 'right' can't rely on such things so badly, especially since the articles referenced are usually the kind of scuttlebutt you warn against at the top of your post.

I take it you don't trust the mods to keep order in 'Dodge City'?

It has nothing to do with trust and everything to do with volume and reality.

It has to do with the drive by mentality of posting in forums, also known as "trolling" and "Flaming" by those who are dead set on bringing a forum down or so thoroughly trashing it, that no one wants to be a member.

Drive by, throw a bomb, light a flame and leave. Like some are already engaged in here, nothing to substantiate the absurd allegations or brazen insults, just the allegations and the taunts and the caveat "prove me wrong!"

So if the "powers B" want basically a public restroom mentality of in essence scrawling absurd graffiti on the walls here, and then fleeing the scene while the mods are left to come in and paint over the absurdities? I say they are welcome to it. Just bring large shovels and a lot of paint and be prepared to spend a lot of time sweeping up pile after pile after pile.

At least for a while. Until the forum dies. After that it ought to be pretty manageable here and about as active as a graveyard.

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My suggestion: if you have an outside link, simply paste the word DOT in place of the dot. We can translate that easily enough.

This has become the worlds most rinky-dink place. I can see why it's called Military dot com... it's a general military style cluster fk.

I suggest you protest by withholding your membership dues to Military.com.

You know the old saying, "Money walks..."

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Originally posted by hooah71:
We lost a lot of fine members the last time this stunt was pulled just "in the news" section. Are the powers that be trying to remove what's left of the fine members?

If I am understanding the situation correctly, they don't have a choice, unless they want to be sued???

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At least for a while. Until the forum dies. After that it ought to be pretty manageable here and about as active as a graveyard.

That has been a prediction off and on now for about 8 years or so here.

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:

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Originally posted by hooah71:
We lost a lot of fine members the last time this stunt was pulled just "in the news" section. Are the powers that be trying to remove what's left of the fine members?

Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

The discussion forum folks here have zero to say about that side of it.

This is going to sound funny USAF, but I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about lol.

Once again, the brass is out to shoot themselves in the foot............

I am guessing that the "URL" box on the reply screen will be removed so nothing will show up as a direct link.

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Originally posted by Timeless22:
I am guessing that the "URL" box on the reply screen will be removed so nothing will show up as a direct link.

Lord, I hope so, for us mods sake!

I thought posting a link was a courtesy, so as to save space here, and give readers a chance to go and read it themselves if they wish. Isn't that how both P/CP and In the News are supposed to work?? I am confused about this - -

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

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Originally posted by Locutisprime:
Drive by, throw a bomb, light a flame and leave. Like some are already engaged in here, nothing to substantiate the absurd allegations or brazen insults, just the allegations and the taunts and the caveat "prove me wrong!"

I still don't see why the 'left' should be seen as the beneficiaries of the changes. There are imperfections on both sides, but the two worst examples of negative posting I can think of ofhand are rightwingers. Perhaps that's due to a mindset that says 'They will sink to any level to get what they want, so I must sink lower', but it's not healthy.

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Originally posted by DCookeUSA1:
Typing the URL out like that just makes the post look ugly.

Too bad for the No Bull, Just Debate Forum. How am I supposed to debate if we're alone in the universe or if Jesus is alive without any links?

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Originally posted by PhoenixDark:
Once again, the brass is out to shoot themselves in the foot............

Grrrrrrrrr.......I can't do it.........Grrrrr............It's pains..............me to...........grrrrrr.....say this.......but I agree with PD. Way to shoot yourselves in the foot brass. Oldmole and USMC here's Im'a coming.

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:

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Originally posted by Timeless22:
I am guessing that the "URL" box on the reply screen will be removed so nothing will show up as a direct link.

Lord, I hope so, for us mods sake!

Not to further complicate things even further but if you drag and type the link are all of those gonna have to be verifable, too

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Originally posted by TrollhunterX:

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Originally posted by Locutisprime:
Drive by, throw a bomb, light a flame and leave. Like some are already engaged in here, nothing to substantiate the absurd allegations or brazen insults, just the allegations and the taunts and the caveat "prove me wrong!"

I still don't see why the 'left' should be seen as the beneficiaries of the changes. There are imperfections on both sides, but the two worst examples of negative posting I can think of ofhand are rightwingers. Perhaps that's due to a mindset that says 'They will sink to any level to get what they want, so I must sink lower', but it's not healthy.

Which makes you a what?

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his is going to sound funny USAF, but I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about lol. Big Grin

I am sorry I didn't explain thoroughly, my friend.

The Mil.com Main page news has it's own comment section attached to each story they provide.
It is under a different administrative system called JIVE. We here on the Discussion Forum use a system called EVE.(No idea what they mean, namewise) We have absolutely no control over what gets posted on the main news page from this side.

If you look at the comments area there, you will see folks who used to post on our ITN.
Or even still do.

Anyone looking for a home, send me an email. There are alternatives.

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

What is that called when someone gets to pick the news you talk about?

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:

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Originally posted by Timeless22:
I am guessing that the "URL" box on the reply screen will be removed so nothing will show up as a direct link.

Lord, I hope so, for us mods sake!

Ya better hope folks don't know BB code

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Originally posted by greywolfghost:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

What is that called when someone gets to pick the news you talk about?

The Military? Communism?

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

Only if you want to provide a link.

Otherwise, input it so it doesn't automatically link.

Also, cutting and pasting ENTIRE articles will probably not be cool. I don't think they can stop anyone from brief quotes. That means one should go through the article and pick out some juicy bits that help make your point, not the whole thing.

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

Only if you want to provide a link.

Otherwise, input it so it doesn't automatically link.

Also, cutting and pasting ENTIRE articles will probably not be cool. I don't think they can stop anyone from brief quotes. That means one should go through the article and pick out some juicy bits that help make your point, not the whole thing.

Would then not some if not a lot of comments be taken out of context? or be misrepresented as least.

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Originally posted by greywolfghost:

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Originally posted by SgtSchaeffersMom:

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Originally posted by USAF_76_2_80:
Many members who used to post on ITN are on the JIVE comment areas under the nice people who provide us with the news on this site.

USAF,

The downside to perusing the JIVE function, means that we are limited to the news articles posted by mil.com, correct?

What is that called when someone gets to pick the news you talk about?

I don't know if we're allowed to say it, but sounds like Pravda to me

Would that be censor......