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"Do it by the numbers." |
If a mod could, move the thread of changes up to the top of P/CP. My schedule - I do not get on Mil.Com as much as I use to - Work schedule and other commitments. Lucky I caught it today, so I would not have violated any TOU's.
Links - cnn, msnbc, ect,and some others ; gives weight to a posting, thread. Also, it gives the Mil.Com member credibility to their postings of accounts and actions of times past. A member post something, and another member asks " Got a link? " Meaning, back up what you just posted - or you are just flapping your mouth. I believe that the policy should be revised, so that propaganda websites, and other websites that hold no credibility, or are just blogs...comments of ones imagination - should not be posted. P/CP, God Bless us, is one of the most hottest and most interesting sites on the World Wide Web. Debates, and arguments occur that occur no where else. How else is one to back up their comments without posting a link? How is one to post a thread of an action or occurrace without posting a link? How is one to back up their statements without posting a link? Awlfully difficult. Links should be able to be posted, but within good taste. NiteCloak 1911 !!! |
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I already told you 2 times by your profile message that I would be glad to do it, if you message back to confirm. My regular E-mail is in my Mod Avatar, use that if you don't want to use the profile message. One of us would take it off if you went to the yellow triangle about it, ALL mods on all forums see that, as well as admin. Since you are leaving, so long, good luck. "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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"I'm still a tough old bird!" |
Is the boycott still on for monday? |
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I personally think that it hardly makes a difference whether we get permission to link or not, as far as the discussion boards go. 10 or 12 years ago the only way you could link in a discussion board or chat room was to have admin control or was familiar with HTML if your message board allowed you to use it it. Look at the message boards (comments) they are using in the main page news, those do not allow links, smileys, images, etc at all. Is there right to hot link? One of the problems is that when this site was set up, the use of links was not an issue, since the software used to run the boards automatically changes anything input with www. or http:// into a URL link. You just have to change the way that you provide your readers where to go to see your info. we have discussed how to post the internet address of any site/article etc, without activating the automatic feature. First thing I told them when they announced the changes was"shut it off!" Unfortunately Rob tells me cannot be turned off/disabled. I assume this is due to the software used to run the site, which is over 10 years old, If I am not mistaken. "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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You can start now, if you wish. "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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I don't get why everyone is flippin out over this. How hard is it to put the url in with quotes or a name.com format? Get a grip people. It really isn't that hard or a big deal.
[Oops! I accedentally hit edit and not reply with quote, sorry!] This message has been edited. Last edited by: USAF_76_2_80, |
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Maybe they don't like "change"? "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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lol. But I thought everyone wanted "change" these days. |
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"I'm still a tough old bird!" |
Johnney Two Strokes equals CFI Pilot. So, are you ****ed at MAG because he shut you off for a while. Your posting rights were returned.....did you know that? You and Wally....I just don't know? |
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Things change, some changes are good, some are not! Changes can be changed, if it isn't working, change it back or seek an alternative!
Keep smiling, everyone will wonder what you've been up to! |
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But that opens a new can of worms N.C. Who decides whats credible? In todays world of controlled media, Can you call anything Credible? And once all agreed where would be the debate? It would become just another boring Chat room. Without serious controversy you cant have a good debate. |
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This is not accidental. The "free" internet represents a very LARGE threat to special interests. Especially POLITICAL based special interests. Obamas grassroots success at fundraising over the net has shaken them up.(It directly threatens those who hide behind BOTH parties who choose to manipilate us) The corporate powers that be along with their political buddies are rather dull sluggards. They DO have a nack for getting money, but so do bandits. They have little creativity and don't compete well in a free internet environment as they bore people to death.Freedom in ANYTHING is perceived as a threat, since they EMBODY slavery. Since they can't really compete well, the only other option is to crank the screws so tight, you can't get a greased BB through it. You see this type of mentality in repititous conformity. Row after row after row of houses that look the same, people encouraged to dress the same (Designer geans), eat the same food, and CONFORM, no matter what. Conforming people are MUCH easier to manage than creative people who bend the envelope. Look at our schools where our bright creative children are turned into dull, half crippled worker bees. Row after row of children, with their little mouthes open like baby sparrows, while drivle is shoved down their throats. Facts, facts,row after row of facts jumbled together, test scores the highest goal, while MEANING goes out the window and usefulness in life only reserved for workerbee functions. What it means to be a human being or the meaning of existence only croaked our of dusty dried philosophy classes, to be taken as an alternate core class. Where is the JOY in learning? Where is the beauty that lies sleeping in these little ones hearts given an opportunity of expression? Conformity is DEATH to the Human Spirit. It is a war after all to crush the spirit and turn people into robotic slaves for the overloards. They wern't real successful in clamping the net over porn and child molesting as they cant stop the porn and molestation is such a small issue that nobody that is net savvy gets all worked up about it. (You have more chance of a child being molested in a church than over the net) the next best thing is to use the regulators of communication, the FCC and congress to clamp on the screws. Since corporate interests (at least for now) OWN these people more or less, they can dream up a major screw, using our own capitalist system against us to curtail freedom. All in the name of "copyright" protection, being streached to fit around the internet. And if you think you are NOT being constantly manipulated, then you're sleepwalking and VERY nieve. It isn't just for profits, it's for power as well. Think about it. |
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Forums Administrator THE ROBOCOP |
Greetings all,
Let's see if I can shine some light on this, so we can put this matter to rest. I've borrowed some of the wording here straight from our Director. The problem has been, we, Military.com have been contacted by a number of news organizations complaining about their articles and site links being posted without their permission. Some news organizations, particularly television or radio news sites don't care, but the smaller news, and even some of the bigger news media do care. Some charge for re-posting, which of course is why they are adamant about us not posting their site links without their permission. Certainly this is going on all over the internet - we're just being singled out mostly because of the high volume of traffic generated on Military.com. In other words, I'm afraid we'll have to clamp down on this policy for legal reasons. Remember, the discussion forum is not a revenue generator, and we run it as a membership benefit. What we don't want is for someone in our legal department getting involved with this end of the world - so it's important for us to keep the opportunity for them to get involved to as close to nonexistent as possible. Some of the news articles of interest can certainly be addressed in the discussion forum, even using a portion of the articles is okay (as long as it's credited to the source). That shouldn't hinder folks from carrying on a discussion topic. Also, you may find some of the articles of interest covered somewhere on Military.com (which of course those links are okay to post). With all due respect folks, everyone needs to understand three things: 1st - The Discussion Forums are not a revenue generator, so we need to keep the concerns and issues away from the leadership as much as possible. 2nd - Sites like 'YouTube' are making money from click-thrus - we're giving them free advertising by allowing their links, which is unfair to everyone else. 3rd and possibly the most significant - With the exeption of any attorneys who participate in our forums, I'm not sure that the general population completely understands the magnitude of copyright infringement. It's a 'pick and choose' matter - and with us being a big number on site visitors and click-thrus, it's easier to come after us than some small obscure site. Now, let's declare this horse dead and burried... and get back to business. Respectfully, -Rob "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Oscar Wilde |
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Is there any way you could list those sites that are definitely taboo, so that we could steer them a wide path? Definitely don't want to ruffle their feathers, even by accident....
Wandering and Wondering |
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"Bowlers have BIG balls!" |
You would think posting a link to their news website would be a good thing for them. It would attract interest to their site, even if just for the news item.
"The World's Finest" |
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Hot Topics Quickly and Expertly Extinguished On Demand Since October 2000 ------------------ Proud Member ------------------ |
If I recall when these 'googles' came here... If you 'klik' on the link...and it takes you to whatever 'google' is advertising...then they get the credit and, the 'revenue'. |
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So Hoffy, you saying we ain't clicking on the advertisers enough?... Is Mil.com "hurtin'"?... We can start a campaign or am I missing the point?... Respectfully, SUNLINER81 |
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Hot Topics Quickly and Expertly Extinguished On Demand Since October 2000 ------------------ Proud Member ------------------ |
Bill... I honestly don't have a good answer for this... As I have no use for those 'googlies', I can't say for sure. As far as "hurtin'"...I guess the financial gurus would know. |
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Thanks Hoffy, just trying to get a "handle" on what's happening... Respectfully, Bill |
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Well, there it is then. Fun while it lasted and all that. Ciao. |
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Forums Administrator THE ROBOCOP |
Unfortunately not. It's easier to tell you what is allowed than to go name by name on what is not. What is allowed are sites that are "dot-mil", "dot-gov" and any site listed on our Military and Veterans Associations Page. (there is a link to it on the sticky post). Everything else is out. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Oscar Wilde |
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Forums Administrator THE ROBOCOP |
True... that would make sense. It makes sense to my ears. But for some reason in the strange world of cyberspace, it is not. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Oscar Wilde |
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Forums Administrator THE ROBOCOP |
I personally don't have the specific numbers on this. However in the 'big picture', the ads may offset a small portion of the cost to run the forums... but by no means does it come close to covering all of it (let alone generate revenue of any kind). "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Oscar Wilde |
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But if we post the link with the "-------" Is that OK? |
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Previous Posts as Jade_Gate |
Ref the military.com news page and under-article commenting. When is that commenting going to be upgraded with the features that were promised back in the Mar-Apr time frame? At the time, they were supposedly "being tested". Since then ... nothing ...
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Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils. Shock and Awe Lead Hot Topics Moderator |
OK...... We have beat on this for 10 pages now.... It all boils down to the fact that we have been directed to follow a course of action, and we will have to make the best of it.
Personally, I think these boards are worth the effort, or I would not do what I do. If we work it together.... play it by ear for a bit, and try to work out what will and will not work under the new guidelines, we CAN survive. In my approximately 5 years on these boards as a poster... more as a lurker, there have been MANY policy changes, and the boards have always survived. They will again. Let's get back to some more productive debates and arguments! This thread is now closed. "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life."~~~Theodore Roosevelt~~~ |
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