Florida again gets to determine the fate of the next election? Is this fair and in keeping with the Constitution? I say screw Florida, their vote does not count.

Thoughts?

so how do you figure??? oh did the dems decide to accept our votes now??? though they wernt going to accept fl votes for the dem primaries....

That ladies and gentlemen? Is what is affectionately known as the "Finagle Factor."

Democrats are master of it. You should know that by now.

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
so how do you figure??? oh did the dems decide to accept our votes now??? though they wernt going to accept fl votes for the dem primaries....

THAT'S RIGHT OUTLAWS.

dmuller, don't dispair it is only a test to see if they can count their hanging chads better than the last time.

Frisco

I got so hanging chads for them. I say we over-throw the Cuban administration, then cede the state to them. Good riddance.

J/K

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Originally posted by FriscoLady01:
dmuller, don't dispair it is only a test to see if they can count their hanging chads better than the last time.

Frisco

yea a few of the senor citizens had a hard time with them ballots... ive seen them and understand how they got confused by them.... but now it is all done electronically and less problems getting confused by it....

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Originally posted by dmuhler:
I got so hanging chads for them. I say we over-throw the Cuban administration, then cede the state to them. Good riddance.

J/K

naw ill take it before i let the cuban gov have it.... i am sure me and a few others can get a large enough army together to prevent the cubans or dems from giving it over to cuba.... fl militia is rather large...

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yea a few of the senor citizens had a hard time with them ballots... ive seen them and understand how they got confused by them.... but now it is all done electronically and less problems getting confused by it....

Yet they have absolutely no problem with a slot machine in Atlantic City....

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Originally posted by ipw533:

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yea a few of the senor citizens had a hard time with them ballots... ive seen them and understand how they got confused by them.... but now it is all done electronically and less problems getting confused by it....

Yet they have absolutely no problem with a slot machine in Atlantic City....

well those have large print and the line points to the number\object and not in between the two....

guess they really are still all messed up over the 2000 elections...

Yea think? Duh!

All the states knew the rules about primaries and were warned that if they continued monkeying with the dates, their delegates would not be accepted at the convention.

Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

But...there's a fly in the Florida ointment. The primary date was changed, not by the Democrats, but by the Republican-controlled Legislature. Is it fair to punish Florida Democrats for the actions of the Republicans?

You can be sure of one thing: If Hillary was leading in the delegate count, this would not be an issue. She's grasping at the last straw to keep her failing campaign alive and may get her way, to the ruination of America.

It seems to me that the only fair way to settle this is to seat all the Michigan and Florida delegates, but require a 50/50 split in their allegience to either Obama or Hillary. That way, the states regain their seats, but neither candidate gets an advantage from it.

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Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

sure i have no problems at all if the dems dont want our votes.... just as long as they dont at the end start belly acking about getting them and start demanding that fl has a recount revote whatever....just more votes for the gop....

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It seems to me that the only fair way to settle this is to seat all the Michigan and Florida delegates, but require a 50/50 split in their allegience to either Obama or Hillary. That way, the states regain their seats, but neither candidate gets an advantage from it.

i say both dont get crap... hell they dint want it at first so they shouldnt get jack.... at lease they could follow through with what they say....

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

sure i have no problems at all if the dems dont want our votes.... just as long as they dont at the end start belly acking about getting them and start demanding that fl has a recount revote whatever....just more votes for the gop....

I think you may misunderstand what this is all about. It's not about votes in the general election, but at the Democratic Party convention.

There won't be any Republican's there, except for spies.

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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It seems to me that the only fair way to settle this is to seat all the Michigan and Florida delegates, but require a 50/50 split in their allegience to either Obama or Hillary. That way, the states regain their seats, but neither candidate gets an advantage from it.

i say both dont get crap... hell they dint want it at first so they shouldnt get jack.... at lease they could follow through with what they say....

But his way at least a bunch of do-nothings and local palm-greasers get to go to the big city and wear funny hats. Come on, where's your sense of fun?
Besides, the FL and MI delegates should be there in case the vote goes into overtime.

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Originally posted by stillkit:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

sure i have no problems at all if the dems dont want our votes.... just as long as they dont at the end start belly acking about getting them and start demanding that fl has a recount revote whatever....just more votes for the gop....

I think you may misunderstand what this is all about. It's not about votes in the general election, but at the Democratic Party convention.

There won't be any Republican's there, except for spies.

yes i know and they shouldnt be allowed to have our votes for the primary... they refuse them at first didnt want anything to do with it so they shouldnt get them... screw them they really need to follow through on stuff they say....

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by stillkit:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

sure i have no problems at all if the dems dont want our votes.... just as long as they dont at the end start belly acking about getting them and start demanding that fl has a recount revote whatever....just more votes for the gop....

I think you may misunderstand what this is all about. It's not about votes in the general election, but at the Democratic Party convention.

There won't be any Republican's there, except for spies.

yes i know and they shouldnt be allowed to have our votes for the primary... they refuse them at first didnt want anything to do with it so they shouldnt get them... screw them they really need to follow through on stuff they say....

The Democrats.....aren't being too democratic. It really doesn't matter much who McCain runs against....because he can beat either one of them.

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Originally posted by pken:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by stillkit:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the warnings and did it anyhow. They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

sure i have no problems at all if the dems dont want our votes.... just as long as they dont at the end start belly acking about getting them and start demanding that fl has a recount revote whatever....just more votes for the gop....

I think you may misunderstand what this is all about. It's not about votes in the general election, but at the Democratic Party convention.

There won't be any Republican's there, except for spies.

yes i know and they shouldnt be allowed to have our votes for the primary... they refuse them at first didnt want anything to do with it so they shouldnt get them... screw them they really need to follow through on stuff they say....

The Democrats.....aren't being too democratic. It really doesn't matter much who McCain runs against....because he can beat either one of them.

yup

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Originally posted by ipw533:

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yea a few of the senor citizens had a hard time with them ballots... ive seen them and understand how they got confused by them.... but now it is all done electronically and less problems getting confused by it....

Yet they have absolutely no problem with a slot machine in Atlantic City....

There's a decent idea. After all, the pres election right now is a crap shoot, just make all election by slot machine; pay the poll tax to get the spin and see who comes up.

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Originally posted by ipw533:

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yea a few of the senor citizens had a hard time with them ballots... ive seen them and understand how they got confused by them.... but now it is all done electronically and less problems getting confused by it....

Yet they have absolutely no problem with a slot machine in Atlantic City....

That is because they were trained on the old machines when you pulled the lever and voted a strait ticket.

I remember how the Democrats howled when it was outlawed here in Illinois about 15 or 20 years ago forcing voters to actually having to read the ballot and choose a candidate.

They screamed and stomped their feet about how it would inconvenience the voters.

You know what! They sounded just like that when Indiana required voters to show an ID.

Imagine that.