Nancy pelosi has asked the American people to call the President and tell him to do something about the oil crisis, she was seen on Fox news with a poster showing the President's phone number.

Since it is actually the fault of the congress, and Polesi, not allowing a vote on the floor for drilling in the US, I thought it would be more Appropriate to give her a call, so here is her phone number.
202-255-0100, she will probably need to receive a lot of calls to help her realize that she needs to do something as soon as she possibly can.

The President creates laws? I thought that was the job of Congress.

The President has asked other oil producing nations, such as Saudi Arabia to increase output, which to my knowledge they have done for at least the last 3 months running. As far as I know, they are getting near the top of their output capacity, but not sure on that.

The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

We shold be calling on Nancy Pelosi to unite the Democratic Party to go after our domestic energy resouces and to rely less on foreign oil.

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Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

he cant do anything if congress keeps on hindering everything he tries to do.... he has tried many of times but congress keeps on blocking everything he does....

Newt Gingrich's 3 ways to lower gas prices.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY

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Originally posted by davidsteinberg:
Nancy pelosi has asked the American people to call the President and tell him to do something about the oil crisis, she was seen on Fox news with a poster showing the President's phone number.

Since it is actually the fault of the congress, and Polesi, not allowing a vote on the floor for drilling in the US, I thought it would be more Appropriate to give her a call, so here is her phone number.
202-255-0100, she will probably need to receive a lot of calls to help her realize that she needs to do something as soon as she possibly can.

How much help would it be if by some miracle all the producable oilfields did so over night?

Oil is sold over the International exchanges... even that produced here in the good 'ole USofA. No net reduction in cost. You then will comne back that there would be more oil on the market... and their would be... right up to the point the World cuts back on production... make more money... by selling less oil.

Not to mention we ALREADY are forced to purchase millions of barrels per day of pre-refined product from overseas.

Your solution does NOTHING to address that issue. So does that part go away because you do not care to contemplate that issue?

Kind of useless to be addressing the pumping... when you don't have any means to do anything with it... except to sell it overseas to someone else for a profit.

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

he cant do anything if congress keeps on hindering everything he tries to do.... he has tried many of times but congress keeps on blocking everything he does....

His own Republican Congress did the exact same to him... Including those from your state... You guys down there said... hail yes! Drill for oil... just stay out of Florida when you do it.

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Originally posted by davidsteinberg:
Nancy pelosi has asked the American people to call the President and tell him to do something about the oil crisis, she was seen on Fox news with a poster showing the President's phone number.

Since it is actually the fault of the congress, and Polesi, not allowing a vote on the floor for drilling in the US, I thought it would be more Appropriate to give her a call, so here is her phone number.
202-255-0100, she will probably need to receive a lot of calls to help her realize that she needs to do something as soon as she possibly can.

I love it, David, thanks. And I WILL call. I don't have unlimited long distance service for nothing.

My wife called Nancy and tried to sell her some Avon products. Her secretary said no that Nancy doesn't need make up. She is naturally beautiful.

ahahah! I love that story, duster! Is it true?

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

he cant do anything if congress keeps on hindering everything he tries to do.... he has tried many of times but congress keeps on blocking everything he does....

His own Republican Congress did the exact same to him... Including those from your state... You guys down there said... hail yes! Drill for oil... just stay out of Florida when you do it.

not any more we down here in florida wants the drilling now.... charlie crist is all for it....just congress says no....

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Originally posted by pken:
We shold be calling on Nancy Pelosi to unite the Democratic Party to go after our domestic energy resouces and to rely less on foreign oil.

They are! They are working on legislation that would require U.S. oil companies that hold rights to some 68 million acres in the lower 48 states to "use 'em or lose 'em."

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by pken:
We shold be calling on Nancy Pelosi to unite the Democratic Party to go after our domestic energy resouces and to rely less on foreign oil.

They are! They are working on legislation that would require U.S. oil companies that hold rights to some 68 million acres in the lower 48 states to "use 'em or lose 'em."

First the Party needs to look into a mirror and put the bulk of the blame on petty environmental stops that have prevented this from happening.

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Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

I thought it was pretty funny, after not letting us drill our own oil for all those years, the liberals ask the president to get the Saudi's to drill more.

This is the epitome of stupidly, to depend on your enemies to provide you with an essential commodity, oil to run our nation, while you have a bigger supply than they do, right here in our back yard.

The liberal thinking politicians think more of the perceived damage to the ecology than they do the ability of the citizens to be able to live our daily lives and have the fuel to drive to work.

Their favorite talking point is " we can't drill our way out of this"
If we would have started about ten years ago we wouldn't have this problem today.
If we start drilling now we can eliminate our dependence on the the people who want to destroy us, for our supply of oil.

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by pken:
We shold be calling on Nancy Pelosi to unite the Democratic Party to go after our domestic energy resouces and to rely less on foreign oil.

They are! They are working on legislation that would require U.S. oil companies that hold rights to some 68 million acres in the lower 48 states to "use 'em or lose 'em."

There is no need to drill where there is no oil.

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by davidsteinberg:
Nancy pelosi has asked the American people to call the President and tell him to do something about the oil crisis, she was seen on Fox news with a poster showing the President's phone number.

Since it is actually the fault of the congress, and Polesi, not allowing a vote on the floor for drilling in the US, I thought it would be more Appropriate to give her a call, so here is her phone number.
202-255-0100, she will probably need to receive a lot of calls to help her realize that she needs to do something as soon as she possibly can.

How much help would it be if by some miracle all the producable oilfields did so over night?

Oil is sold over the International exchanges... even that produced here in the good 'ole USofA. No net reduction in cost. You then will comne back that there would be more oil on the market... and their would be... right up to the point the World cuts back on production... make more money... by selling less oil.

Not to mention we ALREADY are forced to purchase millions of barrels per day of pre-refined product from overseas.

Your solution does NOTHING to address that issue. So does that part go away because you do not care to contemplate that issue?

Kind of useless to be addressing the pumping... when you don't have any means to do anything with it... except to sell it overseas to someone else for a profit.

OH OK, I see, lets just give up, there is no way out of this.

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Originally posted by pken:
First the Party needs to look into a mirror and put the bulk of the blame on petty environmental stops that have prevented this from happening.

Link? Of course there is resistance to offshore and ANWAR drilling, but where are the protests against drilling on this, already leased, acreage?

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Originally posted by SeaWitch1220:

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Originally posted by pken:
First the Party needs to look into a mirror and put the bulk of the blame on petty environmental stops that have prevented this from happening.

Link? Of course there is resistance to offshore and ANWAR drilling, but where are the protests against drilling on this, already leased, acreage?

From what I have read, the oil companies lease large areas as a precaution, in the event substantive oil fields are discovered. It appears there is a 3 to 5 year wait to drill a new field due to pre-existing commitments. It also seems as if Brazil has discovered a lot of oil, and in a few years much of our drilling capacity will be off the coast of Brazil making that country richer.

If you were an oil company, it wouldn't be in your interest to assess the oil value of land you were not going to be able to lease or purchase. We currently do not have a national assessment of our off shore oil reserves, or even of our entire on shore reserves. Our government could pay for it, and make more informed leasing choices.

However, this would require an enlightened Congress, willing to work with oil companies. We do not currently have that, and there is no prospect in the near future to have it.

Instead a needless hostile relationship exists between Congress and oil companies. We need oil, it is the lifeblood of our economy. It doesn't make sense for Congress to be hostile to drilling profitible oil fields.

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Originally posted by LSSofWA:
Newt Gingrich's 3 ways to lower gas prices.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY

Pretty good post. Gingrich's comments cut across party lines and in my view are pretty reasonable.

things like this doesn't help

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080712/ap_on_re_us/gas_drilling


US judge blocks gas drilling in Michigan forest By JOHN FLESHER, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jul 12, 6:35 AM ET

TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. - A federal judge has overturned a decision by the U.S. Forest Service to allow oil and gas drilling near a forest and a river in Michigan's northern Lower Peninsula.

U.S. District Judge David Lawson of Detroit ruled Thursday the agency had acted "arbitrarily and capriciously" in 2005 by giving Savoy Energy LP of Traverse City a permit to drill an exploratory well near the Au Sable River's south branch.

The proposed wellhead would be located in the Huron-Manistee National Forest about three-tenths of a mile from the Mason Tract, a 4,679-acre wilderness area prized by anglers and other outdoor recreationists.

Forest supervisor Leanne Marten said when approving Savoy's application that the project wouldn't significantly harm the environment and the company would be required to keep noise to a minimum.

But the judge ruled the Forest Service didn't consider how degrading the area could harm tourism, and said the agency did a "woefully inadequate" job of evaluating how the drilling might affect the Kirtland's warbler, an endangered songbird that nests in the area.

Two environmental groups, the Sierra Club and Anglers of the Au Sable, sued the government to halt the drilling. Joining the suit was Tim Mason, whose grandfather, auto executive George Mason, donated the original 1,200 acres to the state upon his death in 1954 and asked that it be maintained as wilderness.

"The ruling supports what my grandfather's vision was. It's a victory," said Mason, a Woodstock, Ill., businessman.

Huron-Manistee spokesman Ken Arbogast referred a request for comment to the U.S. Department of Justice, which represented the Forest Service in court. Andrew Ames, a spokesman for the department, said its attorneys were studying Lawson's ruling and had not decided whether to appeal.

A message seeking comment was left with Savoy.

Leaders of the environmental groups urged the company and the government to look for other places to explore for oil and gas.

"We've said from the beginning we didn't want to stop them from drilling," said Marvin Roberson, a forest policy specialist with the Sierra Club. "We want them to drill from a place that won't be harmful to the old-growth forest or the recreational experience."

Although the Mason Tract is state property, the federal government owns rights to minerals beneath it and leased production rights to Savoy. In 2003, the company filed for a permit to drill into one of its lease holdings.

The plan was to clear about 3.5 acres of forest for a well site on federal land, then drill beneath the Mason Tract at an angle. If enough gas or oil was found, the company intended to install a pipeline and build a production facility about a mile east of the well.

The U.S. Bureau of Land Management approved the project shortly after the Forest Service granted the permit. But it has been on hold since Lawson issued an order in December 2005 blocking the company from clearing land to get started.

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Leaders of the environmental groups urged the company and the government to look for other places to explore for oil and gas.

LOL ... anwhere but in MY back yard. We deserve to be paying what we are paying at the pump ... and more.

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

quote:

Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

he cant do anything if congress keeps on hindering everything he tries to do.... he has tried many of times but congress keeps on blocking everything he does....

His own Republican Congress did the exact same to him... Including those from your state... You guys down there said... hail yes! Drill for oil... just stay out of Florida when you do it.

not any more we down here in florida wants the drilling now.... charlie crist is all for it....just congress says no....

It is interesting how the high cost of fuel and vacations cuases people to pass up the Sunshine State... Yes, I agree with you... they all are interested now... even a growing majority of Californians.

But the price of gas is not going to go down

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Originally posted by davidsteinberg:

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by davidsteinberg:
Nancy pelosi has asked the American people to call the President and tell him to do something about the oil crisis, she was seen on Fox news with a poster showing the President's phone number.

Since it is actually the fault of the congress, and Polesi, not allowing a vote on the floor for drilling in the US, I thought it would be more Appropriate to give her a call, so here is her phone number.
202-255-0100, she will probably need to receive a lot of calls to help her realize that she needs to do something as soon as she possibly can.

How much help would it be if by some miracle all the producable oilfields did so over night?

Oil is sold over the International exchanges... even that produced here in the good 'ole USofA. No net reduction in cost. You then will comne back that there would be more oil on the market... and their would be... right up to the point the World cuts back on production... make more money... by selling less oil.

Not to mention we ALREADY are forced to purchase millions of barrels per day of pre-refined product from overseas.

Your solution does NOTHING to address that issue. So does that part go away because you do not care to contemplate that issue?

Kind of useless to be addressing the pumping... when you don't have any means to do anything with it... except to sell it overseas to someone else for a profit.

OH OK, I see, lets just give up, there is no way out of this.

Give up if you wish... be an active participant in the revolving blame game like you just did... or realize that anyone who is speaking and telling you that all that needs to be done is the opening of just one facet of the process is simply just trying to be noticed (at best) or set us up for the companies to make more profits while keeping the supply low (at the worst).

Drilling willy-nilly without creating more refining capacity concurrently will never save you, the consumer, money.

Awww--Nancy wants us to make George's phone blow up for her. Ain't that a hoot? Guess what, Nancy--people in Hell want ice water. They've got a better chance of getting that cold drink out of Satan than you have of getting a phone call out of me. I suppose I could invite you to do the anatomically impossible, but you're from San Francisco--you'd probably not only succeed but enjoy it....

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Originally posted by 18476586:
The President is the leader of the United States.....So yes, the "buck stops here" as it were. He, like any other President, is responsible for the HERE AND NOW, and his "drill drill drill" approach will not see much impact in the next decade...

Its not his fault, he is a lame duck so there really ain't much he can do HERE AND NOW so the next best thing is to come up with something to stop people from "whining"....

he cant do anything if congress keeps on hindering everything he tries to do.... he has tried many of times but congress keeps on blocking everything he does....

His own Republican Congress did the exact same to him... Including those from your state... You guys down there said... hail yes! Drill for oil... just stay out of Florida when you do it.

not any more we down here in florida wants the drilling now.... charlie crist is all for it....just congress says no....

It is interesting how the high cost of fuel and vacations cuases people to pass up the Sunshine State... Yes, I agree with you... they all are interested now... even a growing majority of Californians.

But the price of gas is not going to go down

there is no shortage of vacationers down here.... god i kind of wished there was but there isnt... it is the off season right now but in the fall and winter they will be back....

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Originally posted by I_M_Qwerty:

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Leaders of the environmental groups urged the company and the government to look for other places to explore for oil and gas.

LOL ... anwhere but in MY back yard. We deserve to be paying what we are paying at the pump ... and more.

They can drill in my back yard!!

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:
they all are interested [in offshore drilling] now... even a growing majority of Californians.

But the price of gas is not going to go down

Extortion works!

I can see it now:

"This is the White House".

"Yeah, let me talk with George."

"This is George, how can I help you today?"

"Yeah George, hows the wife and kids? Hear any "good terrorist jokes lately?

"Wife and kids are doing great, and Dick has ran out of jokes for now but I'll be sure to email them to you as soon as he comes up with any new ones. Anything else I can do for you?"

Well yeah George, here's what I was really calling about, no more dancing around it. Ditch Pelosi will you? She's a menace to society, and the taxpayer".

The President: "No kidding. I actually feel sorry for the poor SOB she's married to, I'll see what I can do".

Thanks George. Will I be seeing you soon at the fishin hole?"

"Yup".

"Great! Oh, don't bring Dick, he's dangerous".

First off, just because they have the lease does not mean there is anything there. They have ways to see what is there without drilling. Also, they can't look there until they have the lease in hand. As for refineries, if the treehuggers (EPA, DEQ) would relax and allow for new refineries and upgrades to existing ones without costing years and ungodly amounts of money, we could have the capacity. The same treehuggers are against new nuclear plants also. That is where the problem lies, the damn liberal treehuggers.