MEMBERS AND MODERATORS:

There seems to be a lot of ill will right now.

I have had posters tell me I am giving Liberals a free pass. Another poster is convinced that I am after him because he is a liberal.

I think I have a good plan, and that it will work.

IT WILL TAKE TIME!

WE WILL NOT CATCH EVERY BAD POST!

WE NEED YOUR HELP!

If you are a conservative, and you believe the liberals are getting a free ride, USE THE ALERT SYSTEM.

If you are a liberal and believe that the conservatives are getting a free ride, USE THE ALERT SYSTEM.

If you are of ANY POLITICAL PERSUASION OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, and you see a post that you think needs to be addressed, USE THE ALERT SYSTEM.

Using the alert system is NOT "tattling", it is a TOOL that will help ALL OF US to get the Hot Topics Forums to where they should be.

There is a limited Moderator staff right now, so we can really use your help. I only ask that you not submit frivolous alerts just because you do not like someone. If you, however, feel it is justified, USE THE ALERT SYSTEM.

See the pattern here. It is impossible for the few mods we have at this time to read each and every thread, and we will NEVER catch the posts we should be looking at without help.
USE THE ALERT SYSTEM!!!!!!!!

I stand by the sticky I posted, and will keep working towards the goal of a fair and equitable Hot Topics Forums. It will happen much sooner if the Members help to moderate themselves, and if you USE THE ALERT SYSTEM.

I ask for your patience and forbearance as we work this out. It will not be easy, but will be worth it.

Zack
Silent_Surface
Lead Moderator
Hot Topics

yea right!

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Originally posted by rpschnecksr:
yea right!

Thank you for agreeing with me.

I know it'll never happen, but if these forums were restricted to those who have actually served, or who are currently serving, (obviously), this place'd be a helluva lot more civil. There'd still be disagreements, but it seems to me that the real rabble-rousers round here are the "members" who've never served in uniform a day in their lives; especially those on the far left, (a few of em qualify as true socialist radicals and imo, they have no business posting on this site).

I've got a big problem with the radicals on both sides. The ones that think Bush is a Nazi and the ones who think the entire middle east should be nuked.

On the soapbox here:

I don't care about liberals v. neoconservatives. I have had to put up with being bashed for my anti-neoconservative opinions for years. I can handle that. It comes with the territory.

What I am seeing is a resurgence of veteran bashing and "whose the better veteran," chest-thumping.

I don't handle that crap very well at all. Never have and never will.

Stepping back down again.

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Originally posted by skinman13:
On the soapbox here:

I don't care about liberals v. neoconservatives.

Are you EVER going to find it within you to drop the bigotry and simply voice it as Liberals vs. CONSERVATIVES?

How about a little honesty, for a change?

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Originally posted by skinman13:
On the soapbox here:

I don't care about liberals v. neoconservatives. I have had to put up with being bashed for my anti-neoconservative opinions for years. I can handle that. It comes with the territory...

Y'know, skinman, there are those who disagree with liberals on a variety of issues who cannot be accurately described as "neoconservatives". I know that's the hot leftist buzzword, and has been for a few years now, but it is almost always used incorrectly to describe everyone to the right of Nancy Pelosi. Most of us on the right are just plain ol conservatives, not "neocons". Please learn to use the term correctly.

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Originally posted by foxred03:
I've got a big problem with the radicals on both sides. The ones that think Bush is a Nazi and the ones who think the entire middle east should be nuked.

The term "radical" refers to an individual on the far left of the political spectrum. The term "reactionary" refers to an individual on the opposite end of the spectrum: the far right.

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:

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Originally posted by foxred03:
I've got a big problem with the radicals on both sides. The ones that think Bush is a Nazi and the ones who think the entire middle east should be nuked.

The term "radical" refers to an individual on the far left of the political spectrum. The term "reactionary" refers to an individual on the opposite end of the spectrum: the far right.

Webster does not agree, I used the word "radical" correctly. "Reactionary" does apply to the far right though I don't know why you care.

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Originally posted by foxred03:

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:

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Originally posted by foxred03:
I've got a big problem with the radicals on both sides. The ones that think Bush is a Nazi and the ones who think the entire middle east should be nuked.

The term "radical" refers to an individual on the far left of the political spectrum. The term "reactionary" refers to an individual on the opposite end of the spectrum: the far right.

Webster does not agree, I used the word "radical" correctly. "Reactionary" does apply to the far right though I don't know why you care.

Just tryin to help you appear more edjumacated. Do as you will.

Thanks for looking out.

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Originally posted by thanatos2:

quote:

Originally posted by skinman13:
On the soapbox here:

I don't care about liberals v. neoconservatives.

Are you EVER going to find it within you to drop the bigotry and simply voice it as Liberals vs. CONSERVATIVES?

How about a little honesty, for a change?

Noun 1. neoconservative - a conservative who subscribes to neoconservatism

ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism (n-kn-sûrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s:

Can't get more honest than that.

You need to lighten up with the bigotry stuff.

I promised I would not use it to inflame an discussion or as a epithet, and I have kept my promise.

well that is second entry the first is this..

ne·o·con·serv·a·tism /ˌnioʊkənˈsɜrvəˌtɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nee-oh-kuhn-sur-vuh-tiz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
moderate political conservatism espoused or advocated by former liberals or socialists.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/neoconservative

funny how you leave that one out...but i guess that one dosent serve your agenda...

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Originally posted by skinman13:

I promised I would not use it to inflame an discussion or as a epithet, and I have kept my promise.

There is NOTHING "neo" about my perspective, nor my position, and yet... that reality has NOTHING to restrain you from spewing the epithet in my direction.

Look at your post above... you cannot even voice the word conservative without perverting it for your own pleasure.

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Originally posted by skinman13:

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Originally posted by thanatos2:

quote:

Originally posted by skinman13:
On the soapbox here:

I don't care about liberals v. neoconservatives.

Are you EVER going to find it within you to drop the bigotry and simply voice it as Liberals vs. CONSERVATIVES?

How about a little honesty, for a change?

Noun 1. neoconservative - a conservative who subscribes to neoconservatism

ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism (n-kn-sûrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s:

Can't get more honest than that.

You need to lighten up with the bigotry stuff.

I promised I would not use it to inflame an discussion or as a epithet, and I have kept my promise.

Try less cutesy winking and more intellectual honesty, skinman. Outlaws has posted a much more accurate definition of what the term actually means.

I thought you were a teacher. Don't be so deliberately dense.

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Originally posted by thanatos2:

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Originally posted by skinman13:

I promised I would not use it to inflame an discussion or as a epithet, and I have kept my promise.

There is NOTHING "neo" about my perspective, nor my position, and yet... that reality has NOTHING to restrain you from spewing the epithet in my direction.

Look at your post above... you cannot even voice the word conservative without perverting it for your own pleasure.

Yep. Skinman is deliberately twisting the meaning of "neoconservative" in order to use it as invective. He's been doing this for months, (if not years), so I guess at least he's consistent.

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:
Try less cutesy winking and more intellectual honesty, skinman. Outlaws has posted a much more accurate definition of what the term actually means.

I thought you were a teacher. Don't be so deliberately dense.

It helps to check into things before making such bold statements so you don't stick your foot in your mouth...

outlaw didn't post all of the definitions he saw on Dictionary.com, just enough to slant the issue in one direction.

Here is the rest of it.

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[Origin: 1960–65; neo- + conservatism]

—Related forms
ne·o·con·serv·a·tive, noun, adjective
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ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism (nē'ō-kən-sûr'və-tĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n. An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: "The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s" (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.)

ne'o·con·ser'va·tive adj. & n.
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neoconservative

noun
a conservative who subscribes to neoconservatism

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Skinman, why the fack can't you just use the term conservative? Why must you continue to show your blatant bias by derisively referring to anyone to the right of you as a "neocon"?

It's really quite childish.

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Originally posted by thanatos2:

quote:

Originally posted by skinman13:

I promised I would not use it to inflame an discussion or as a epithet, and I have kept my promise.

There is NOTHING "neo" about my perspective, nor my position, and yet... that reality has NOTHING to restrain you from spewing the epithet in my direction.

Look at your post above... you cannot even voice the word conservative without perverting it for your own pleasure.

I have not referred to you or anyone as a neoconservative or neocon since I accepted your cease fire.

I do not make promises often and I do not give my word lightly. I keep my word. Keep yours.

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Originally posted by shades_of_grey:
Skinman, why the fack can't you just use the term conservative? Why must you continue to show your blatant bias by derisively referring to anyone to the right of you as a "neocon"?

It's really quite childish.

This is incredible! Where in this topic did I refer to anyone here as a neoconservative?

I was making a fracking point about labeling in general. Get over it already!

God, what a bunch of whiners!