Each day I will post various remarks from our Founders on
what they thought about on various subjects. Since our inception as a country it
seems, at least to me America looks very different today than then. Many of
their beliefs shaped the beginning. In many respects we have set ourselves up
for collapse from within. Not from all people, but from those who wish America
to change it's face or to fail outright. It is because of the latter that I
decided to launch this series. Please feel free to discuss these remarks that
were made so long ago. I believe this information is very important, especially
for the military since they are the armed protectors of our nation, the front
lines of our defense and as to our very survival as a nation in this world.



Washington, George Circular to the States
May 9, 1753
Topic: Power

Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.


Hamilton, Alexander The Farmer Refuted
February 23, 1775
Topic: Power

A fondness for power is implanted, in most men, and it is natural to abuse it, when acquired.


Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776
Topic: Power

Governments are instituted among, Men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.


Declaration of Independence The Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776
Topic: Power

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.


Hamilton, Alexander Federalist No. 15
1787
Topic: Power

Government implies the power of making laws. It is essential to the idea of a law, that it be attended with a sanction; or, in other words, a penalty or punishment for disobedience.


Madison, James speech at the Constitutional Convention
July 11, 1787
Topic: Power

All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree.


Hamilton, Alexander and Madison, James Federalist No. 63
1788
Topic: Power

Responsibility, in order to be reasonable, must be limited to objects within the power of the responsible party, and in order to be effectual, must relate to operations of that power, of which a ready and proper judgment can be formed by the constituents.


Madison, James Federalist No. 48
February 1, 1788
Topic: Power

It will not be denied that power is of an encroaching nature and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it. After discriminating, therefore, in theory, the several classes of power, as they may in their nature be legislative, executive, or judiciary, the next and most difficult task is to provide some practical security for each, against the invasion of the others.


Hamilton, Alexander Federalist No. 31
January 1, 1788
Topic: Power

A government ought to contain in itself every power requisite to the full accomplishment of the objects commmitted to its care, and to the complete execution of the trusts for which it is responsible, free from every other control but a regard to the public good and to the sense of the people.


Hamilton, Alexander Speech to the New York Ratifying Convention
June, 1788
Topic: Power

The great desiderata are a free representation and mutual checks. When these are obtained, all our apprehensions of the extent of powers are unjust and imaginary.


Madison, James letter to Thomas Jefferson
October 17, 1788
Topic: Power

Wherever the real power in a Government lies, there is the danger of oppression.


Washington, George letter to David Stuart
June 15, 1790
Topic: Power

I can truly say I had rather be at Mount Vernon with a friend or two about me, than to be attended at the Seat of Government by the Officers of State and the Representatives of every Power in Europe.


Madison, James esssay in the National Gazette
March 27, 1792
Topic: Power

Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.


Washington, George Farewell Address
September 19, 1796
Topic: Power

The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position.

Our Founders Thoughts Day 16: Patriotism

Socialism: Does it Fit Mankind?

quote:

Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776
Topic: Power

Governments are instituted among, Men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

All
The portion of above, re: consent of the governed is my topic.
1. By electing Obama and his minions last November, we gave consent to be governed by his admin.
Now, that election was electorally valid, the USA Electorate went home and waited, watched and observed. Watched the Cards and Steelers Superbowl, and watched, waited, and observed.
Within hours of the Inauguration, which was botched in the oath, we saw Gitmo closure, various regs imposed, exec orders cancelled and seemingly unrealistic actions taking place. (one can do a list here).
The question became, early on, What, exactly,have we given consent to and to whom?
MSM soothed our nerves, wait, watch, we don't really know this man....etc.
Within weeks, we had a 700+ BILLION stimulus bill passed, with 90Billion earmarks of pork, agencies funded we had never heard of, and a Treasurey secr'y threatening local banks. ALARM bells began to ring and are still ringing, early on into fall.
bt
Question: Did we give consent to be goverend in the resulting manner. Did we knowlingly allow this radical shift in our Republic Democratic Government to become Socialistic. Are we still, today, giving consent.
If we were deliberately shell gamed into giving our consent, is the November Election valid. If we bought the Kool Aid, then, yes we did give consent. If the Kool Aid turns out to be bitter, then, I infer, it is our own fault for drinking.
bt
Consent to be governed gives an open ended option to one that wants total control, IE: despot. Our elections, we assumed, were open, above board, Yes a bit political, Yes a bit locally corrupt, but all in all manageable.
But the November Election shell game was so slick, so shuck and jive, that one seriously has to ask these questions.
DID WE IN GOOD CONSCIENCE GIVE CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED BY THE LEFT?
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Semper fi

quote:

Originally posted by TennSlim:

quote:

Declaration of Independence
July 4, 1776
Topic: Power

Governments are instituted among, Men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

All
The portion of above, re: consent of the governed is my topic.
1. By electing Obama and his minions last November, we gave consent to be governed by his admin.
Now, that election was electorally valid, the USA Electorate went home and waited, watched and observed. Watched the Cards and Steelers Superbowl, and watched, waited, and observed.
Within hours of the Inauguration, which was botched in the oath, we saw Gitmo closure, various regs imposed, exec orders cancelled and seemingly unrealistic actions taking place. (one can do a list here).
The question became, early on, What, exactly,have we given consent to and to whom?
MSM soothed our nerves, wait, watch, we don't really know this man....etc.
Within weeks, we had a 700+ BILLION stimulus bill passed, with 90Billion earmarks of pork, agencies funded we had never heard of, and a Treasurey secr'y threatening local banks. ALARM bells began to ring and are still ringing, early on into fall.
bt
Question: Did we give consent to be goverend in the resulting manner. Did we knowlingly allow this radical shift in our Republic Democratic Government to become Socialistic. Are we still, today, giving consent.
If we were deliberately shell gamed into giving our consent, is the November Election valid. If we bought the Kool Aid, then, yes we did give consent. If the Kool Aid turns out to be bitter, then, I infer, it is our own fault for drinking.
bt
Consent to be governed gives an open ended option to one that wants total control, IE: despot. Our elections, we assumed, were open, above board, Yes a bit political, Yes a bit locally corrupt, but all in all manageable.
But the November Election shell game was so slick, so shuck and jive, that one seriously has to ask these questions.
DID WE IN GOOD CONSCIENCE GIVE CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED BY THE LEFT?
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Semper fi

To put it in the a nutshell. Those who voted for him gave him their consent. Those who did not vote for him did not give him their consent.

So those who did not give him consent will have to wait until next time to give someone else their consent. Is he still the President; yes. Do I respect the office; yes. Do I have respect for that particular individual in that office; no. Will I profess my opinion for or against him; yes. So far I found nothing I can agree with. So far his past is dark and not inline with the principles of a free and democratic society. Many people were duped and gave their consent.