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http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0907/Boehner_ham...l_price_comment.html
Boehner hammered over Iraq 'small price' comment Democrats, anti-war groups and liberal bloggers are pounding on House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) for saying U.S. military deaths in Iraq are "a small price" to pay to stop al Qaeda from carrying out more terrorist attacks and stabilizing the Middle East. Boehner made the comments during a Wednesday interview by CNN's Wolf Blitzer (you can read the Q & A here at talkingpointsmemo.com). Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) led the charge this morning after bloggers flagged the comments on Wednesday, calling it a "stunningly cavalier statement about the lives of the young men and women who serve our country." Demmocratic Congressional Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) followed up, saying Boeher had belittled "the sacrifice of more than 30,000 brave Americans killed or injured in Iraq," and called on him to apologize to apologize to the families of those soldiers and marines. And Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Boehner's comment was "are deplorable and he should apologize immediately." --------------------------------- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13237981/ The Pentagon provided no details on the nature of the 2,500th death. Nevertheless, reaching the new marker underscored the continuing violence in Iraq just after an upbeat Bush returned from a surprise visit to Baghdad determined that the tide was beginning to turn. “It’s a number,” White House press secretary Tony Snow told reporters at the White House. --------------------------------------- http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/ Morton Blackwell, a prominent Virginia delegate, has been handing out the heart-covered bandages to delegates, who've worn them on their chins, cheeks, the backs of their hands and other places. Bandaids and purple hearts I watched with dismay the closeups of delegates to the Republican National Convention tonight on the television. -------------- Oh, by the way...don't try to find any military service of one Morton Blackwell. He had "other priorities" when it was his turn to serve. This is what the Repubbies "really" think about the military. |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin Member |
This has to be the weakest excuse for a thread I have seen here yet. You post a blog and than excerpts from the Communist News Network...
I would spend more of my time refuting your pathetic attempt at the degregation of a few Repubs...but it's not worth it. If you and your like believe in this manner, no amount of tinfoil is going to help you. 10 years in the military and it was obvious to me that we know where the military support is. Good God man, I served under Clinton....nothing like working for a man who despises you. Us military types may not see eye to eye...but please...the majority of us saw daylight thru Clinton.... Don't you have a another suspension to work on?  |
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I wouldn't even waste my time on this BS. Straight from the Communist manifesto!!!!!!!!!
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I served under Clinton too, and did quite well, thank you.
Sorry if the truth hurts, but "Pubbies" use the military as a prop. It's refreshing to see their Minority Leader admitting what he really thinks of the sacrifice of our nations treasure. |
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this is just dumb
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 Maybe it is from a WWII ideology? |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin Member |
Ideology? What do you think these psycho extremist Islamists ideology is? Post WWII? Please... These neandrothals believe in total destruction, death for whoever does'nt completely, undeniably, wholeheartedly agree with them. Let me set the record straight...USA good....Terrorist bad. No grey area here.
WWII Ideology? What are you smokin? Whofreak=Whackjob.  |
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On Warning 14 Sept 08 20 Days Fin Member |
I must apologize Whofreak...for some reason I cannot edit my post. You have just aggrivated me with your USA bad....everyone else good attitude. Maybe not a "Whackjob", just misguided.
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Hmmm... We know Kerry thinks we're all dumber than dirt and lumped me in with the hordes of Ghengis Khan. Seems Messrs Dean and Van Hollen didn't feel the military was worthy of their service, either.
Nice spin, too. The question wasn't solely about the sacrifice of troops' lives. Neither was the answer. My service began under Johnson and ended under Clinton - and I'll take a Republican any day. |
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10 DAYS SUSPENSION NEMESIS Highly Experienced Member |
It's interesting to me that Senator Kerry has the chutzpah to "lead the charge" on ANY attemt to discredit republican "support" for our military given his checkered history of contempt for the american fighting man (trumped-up war crime accusations, anyone?)
Perhaps both sides (ab)use the military as a prop for political gain? It's not republicans that are the problem; it's politicians. |
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People supported Hitler to the end thinking that what he and their country was doing was right.
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Liberty and Justice! Highly Experienced Member  |
Boner and the rest of the Republicans are going to find their jobs in jeopardy very soon. America is fed up, wants an end to this occupation and it wants the troops home. People are tired of Congress being stymied in its efforts to bring about the end of this occupation and are going to put legislators in office that will perform the will of the people.
Legislation that would have actually supported the troops by giving them the necessary rest and rejuvenation they need was blocked once again by Republicans who, at the last minute (and after a clandestine visit from Darth, er Dick Cheney), decide to vote against Jim Webb’s bill. Counting down to 2008… Ignoring the ignorant is almost as fun as ridiculing the ridiculous. |
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Wait, let me get this straight Freak, you mean to tell us John Kerry of Wintersoldier Fame and his recent "Educational", and "Terrorizing Civilians" remarks is Defending Our Troops after so Long Defaming them?
Oh, look what just flew by My window....  |
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And also, wasn't it Ann Coulter who told a disabled Vietnam veteran that he was the "reason we lost the war" and didn't she also applaud Timothy McVeigh and state that he "should next blow up the New York Times building"?
Mann Coulter says what most Republicans and their right-wing ilk believe, its just that Mann Coulter actually has the guts to say it in public |
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3 years is not "necessary rest and rejuvenation" |
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Peace through air and space Power.... USAF Lifer, retired Experienced Member  |
Just where did you get that enlightened piece of information from? Hitler was a supreme dictator by the time the second world war started and had complete authority overall aspects of the government or the people and used the Gestapo along with the SS to dislodge any resistance within the population. What the population didn't know of the goings-on within Hitler's regime would have feel many of the books that they burned. Those that did know what was going on realize that there were not only Jews in those multitude of concentration camps pretty well assured their silence. Just how many people do you know that have disappeared off the face of the earth because of their political positions or resistance/disagreement with federal authority? Very normal in Deutschland as it was in Stalin's Russia in the 30s and 40s against whoever spoke out against the government. There were several movements to assassinate Hitler, one almost succeeded by some top leading generals. Even Rommel himself saw the handwriting on the wall with this madman... and would have been assassinated outright, instead of force to commit suicide, if not for his popularity amongst the people. This comparison some like to use by using Hitler is not only inaccurate, but childish to say the least whether they be Democrat or Republican. I've been around quite a while and I have never seen so much build in hatred within a percentage of the left wing of the Democratic Party followers. The hate blogs generated by the far left molding the simpleminded is indeed something to behold in our once proud American society. We are no longer one nation under God but two political parties clamoring to control enough power to abolish the other. If one truly wins out then you will have an example of a dictatorial control government and some of your comparisons with Adolf Hitler may find a foundation some of you are so fond of. I truly get the impression that some of you young people's knowledge consist mainly of what you read on blogs, and have no idea what the world is truly about, due to sitting in your cocoons in your shelter lives slashing out at the very foundation that has given you the rights to make some of these ridiculous remarks and outright fictitious statements. |
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Not sure where you saw three years. The only place I saw it was for the reserves and NG. |
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Liberty and Justice! Highly Experienced Member |
Where the hell are you getting three years? Jim Webb’s amendment would have required that the troops spend as much time at home as in the field. The current rotation is less than 1:1. Ignoring the ignorant is almost as fun as ridiculing the ridiculous. |
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Suspended 30 days for personal attacks. Experienced Member |
Well, Commmisioned Officers can always resign their commission if they feel that strongly as to Compare the Administration to the 3rd Reich.... I sure it wouldnt be a Loss... |
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SUSPENDED NEMESIS Experienced Member |
I'm finding it difficult to understand the thinking of any liberal who "serves" in the armed forces since we all had to take an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States", whether officer or enlisted. The difficulty I have is that liberals, by definition seek to progress away from the status quo, some of that status quo being the provisions of that 'antiquated' piece of paper that we revere. I mean really, how can you support and defend something when all the while you are trying ways to get around its protections? That is inconsistent with the purpose of the Constitution. The Conservatives are constantly demonized and called 'nazi' or 'fascist' or 'extremist' when the core value is protection of "what is" in light of "what was".
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Sarcastic Member Highly Experienced Member |
Much the same can be said for the ultra conservatives. By the way, you are trying to portray the ultra left as the mainstream left position. It is no less disengenuous than the lefties trying to claim that all conservatives are Nazis. |
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What do republicans think about the military?
They think of it enough to serve. I stood with WAY, WAY, WAY more republicans than democrats. In the real vote, the right hand oath vote of conviction, there can be no denying. I will believe democrats think well of the service when their numbers EQUAL their opposition. |
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Linedog, speaking of commissioned officers, where's are favorite LT, Berlin Boy been lately?
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"What Republicans Really Think About the Military"
That is a good question. All one has to do is see that the majority of Military members tend to be more Conservative leaning (speaks for itself); also, we can see what the Conservatives (prior and current) think reading through the many many post originated right here on military.com, as well as see the veterans that were just at the White house recently in support of the war! Is that enough for you whofreak, or do you need more insight??? |
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Sarcastic Member Highly Experienced Member |
In case you hadn't noticed, but the Republicans hardly deserve to be called conservative any more. Record spending, big government, and serious attempts to alter the Constitution are not the hallmarks of conservatives. |
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NEO-CONS, you know former OLD SCHOOL DEMS! |
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Sarcastic Member Highly Experienced Member |
Yeah, and current Republicans. |
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Many of the actions of todays Conservative movement are pushed foreward from centrist and neo-conservatives. As for deffining the Constitution, that is done by all politicians not just Republicans. What you feel is a guarunteed and protected right someone else may feel is not, It just depends on who is the majority when deciding (proven over and over by all parties)! |
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Another fallacy. The military is a microcosm of our society. The more vocal "elites" tend to be Rebublican, and the middle class to lower ranks tend to be more Democratic. The trend is shifting more and more to the Democratic side as we speak. Recent reports show the bulk of campaign contributions coming from the military increasingly going to Democratic politicians. I don't deny that the Repubs have done a great job of selling the myth that "only they support the military", but the facts are finally starting to get through. Folks are starting to see the lie that goes: "republicans are for the military". I think that is a healthy development. History is full of failed governments where one side of the political spectrum has tried to claim the military as their own. That's usually the first sign that a country is headed for failure. |
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What was the full cost of 9-11 across the globe? Forget the property damage, what has been the global economic impact of suspending air service for a full week, the hundreds of thousands of people that lost their jobs from the economic fallout, the cost of increased security, etc?
I'd be curious to read a thread on that if anyone knows where to find that info.....if it even exists. |
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