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+++http://www.military.com/news/article/anti-obama-gis-afghan-orders-revoked.html July 15, 2009 Military.com|by Bryant Jordan "Do you know what this means?" Taitz asked in a telephone interview with Military.com Tuesday, about an hour after hearing from Maj. Stefan Cook, the officer fighting his deployment to Afghanistan. "It means the Obama administration has blinked. They have no cards to play with. The moment I filed a lawsuit, they didn't even fight!" "Can you imagine what are the consequences? This is disastrous" for the administration, she said. "We'll have no military. Because anytime any Soldier, any Sailor, any Airman does not want to follow any orders, all he has to do is call an attorney and say 'I don't want to follow this order because I question the legitimacy of the commander in chief.' " YES..... THERE IS A GOD  | ||
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How silly. | |||
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Not silly... read the story duh. I believe a buddy of yours from MSNBC had something to say about it too...lol. | |||
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damn that pesky privacy act... it makes "fact" hard to get to. i, therefore, can only CONJECTURE that the army has something in store for Mr Cook (i can't call him Major because he is in clear deriliction of duty and committing an act of Sedition against his officers, his men and his Nation.) i'll wait for the other shoe to drop on this "Birthers" case, but any soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who shirks his duty to the nation deserves whatever punishment they are given. it is disgraceful... | |||
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Wait... Check, way past silly. | |||
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I see the military falling apart, who is going to serve our country now. As bad as I hate to admit it, barack husein obama is the cic. And refusing a presidental order IS and SHOULD be punishable according to the UCMJ. This major should own up to his responsibilities. | |||
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What is really funny is some around here that have been in the military believe that someone at DoD has flinched. | |||
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Lol  Clearly, Cook is looking to dodge service in Afghanistan. And as for the lawyer crowing abt getting one over on the president- lol. It sounds like bank robbers hi-5'ing each other immediately after robbing a bank. ( And immediately BEFORE running right into a SWAT team stand-off ) It's a shame. This lawyer's going to get her client fried. He'll lose his pension, of course, and probly get court martialed. Whaddaya think? Brig time? | |||
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Maybe he can retain comingo***e to represent him...  | |||
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Just show to me that Mr Cook is a coward and used the "birthers" excuse to get out of serving. I will not use his military rank as he does not deserve it. | |||
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If you believe in the "Rule of Law" then the accusation of the Major is spot on. An illeagelly elected President who does not meet the criteria of the US Constitution is not leagally President...as a result all orders he gives are illegal orders, including Executive Orders and signed legislation. The conspiracy to keep him in office cannot and will not survive a challange. Why? Because the Major's accusation is true. Why? By now if there was any evidence Obama has it would have been presented. The lack of any evidence on his status as a US citizen is evidence he is not a US citizen and is as a result not the President of the United States of American...he is simply a pawn for those who put him there. If this is the case then he should be removed from office asap by the powers that be...all of this could have been avoided prior to the election if everyone worked honestly to get out the truth of his citizenship. The longer it was put off the greater the impact on our nation. This is jus the tip of the iceberg. Worst case scenerio...all hell could break loose asap. | |||
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dragon Your tinfoil is showing. | |||
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Conversely... show me where he is NOT. | |||
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So ....Who does Major D*ck think his Commanding Officer is ? By admitting to be a Major ...says he the top dog !! | |||
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As I said, he is a coward. Also, if Obama had been a Republican would he be questioning his citizenship, or would you? | |||
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RULE OF LAW!, CONSTITUTION!, EXECUTIVE ORDERS!... Ohhhhhh you did it now. | |||
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As I said, he is a coward. Also, if Obama had been a Republican would he be questioning his citizenship, or would you?[/QUOTE] If Obama was a Republican, he would have respectfully shown his birth cerficate to show he was a "natural born citizen". JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, INCLUDING DEMOCRATS! Thats what you have to be, to be the president.  | |||
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Not only is this Major a do_uchebag, he's an idiot as well. To the best of my recollection, President Obama, was the President in May. This moron VOLUNTEERED to serve a year in Afghanistan in May. Perhaps he still thought President Bush occupied the White House. What a maroon. | |||
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Wow, what an unbelievable load of crap. It's amazing to me that the media, the Democratic primary, the GOP, and the general election process did not manage to ferret out the "fact" that Obama was not born in the US. It's amazing to me that our media and political fact-finding machines can ferret out a person's entire history (usually) but somehow failed here. I'm almost at a loss for words. The "Major" is a disgrace and should be severely punished like all malingerers and cowards. | |||
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YEA...... ME TOO. | |||
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Not to mention that SCOTUS refused to even hear the case brought by the "birthers." For lack of merit. BAM! Case closed. Obama is POTUS, like it or not. This whackadoodle Cook is a disgrace to his unit, his state, the Officer Corps, the Army AND the Department of Defense. I say he should be making little rocks out of big rocks at Leavenworth for the rest of his miserable life. | |||
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Some folks here brought up an important point:
Correct, let's look at that for a moment. All of you calling for Maj. Cook's courts martial need to realize that he had volunteered in the first place. He intentionally did this. I believe he did so for the sole purpose of having orders issued for deployment in order to refuse to obey them. A test to see if he would be charged and tried for his refusal. At that point, by law, any documents that might tend to prove his innocence could be requested and produced in court by his defense attorney. The key document in this case would be the one that would (or would not) show that the C.I.C. is indeed eligible to hold that position. Some will say the orders were revoked in order to keep this out of court. I don't know what to think about that. I assume if he wasn't legal, the Clintons would have busted him on it. Either way, if they don't charge him, it sets precedence, if they do it may fix this debate once and for all. Todays politics remind me of an old saying. - "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin | |||
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Actually the Major is quite smart. As an IMA, legally he can decline the MOB order without violating the UCMJ. So he volunteers for MOB, gets orders, files his suite and legally declined the orders. There will be no UCMJ action, because he did everything by the book. Killing his career is another matter but there isn't a charge to bring right now. Also, as an IMA, really just a IRR member that does ATs, he a civilian when not on orders which is 330 some days a year. He has every right as an American Citizen to file any suite he likes, and I guess he found one. As I've said before, these suites aren't going away. Bush is no longer president and there are still lawsuits being filed against him for 9-11. Soon or later one of these Birth lawsuits will get into a court of law, and when it does, it will be fun to watch.  | |||
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People, you are missing the point... Cook is not the story here. The story is the fact the Obama Administration, or the DoD didn't fight the case. WHY? By not fighting, the GOVERNMENT LOST. Does that sound like the US Govt? Does that sound like Obama? WHY DIDN'T THEY FIGHT THIS GUY? If it was a slam dunk case, Cook would have been in hooscow. RIGHT? Cook may be a coward... I've never met the guy. YOU? If people read the story, they'd find he's not the only soldier that feel this way. Gee, maybe there's something to say? | |||
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THANK YOU. | |||
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What are you actually trying to say here? That the DoD didn't fight this because they were afraid that Obama would be revealed as a super secret muslim of Kenyan birth? Wow, it's such a slam dunk I'll just hold my breath for the GOP to take up the case. | |||
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Bush did it!!!! blame it all on Bush!!! | |||
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I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING... Damn man, so a court decision doesn't mean anything unless the GOP does something?? WTF? What is the big deal about Obama having to show his birth certificate? All he has to do is show it. And some here defend him like he has some right not to show it. I sure don't remember that when I enlisted in the Marines. Anybody else get a pass on that one? He's the CIC for God's sake... SHOW YOUR $%^&ING BIRTH CERTIFICATE. | |||
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Maybe, and maybe not, but SOMETHING would have come out that the current administration doesn't want to see the light of day which is most likely why the MOB orders were revoked. Think about it, everyone here says I'm a "Birther" but if I had been this guy's CO and he didn't report for movement, I'd have charged him. I think most everyone on this site, including the other "Birthers", would have too if they were in the position to. So why did the IRR or FORSCOM or HRC revoke the order and not charge the guy?  I think, Someone, very high up, said make this go away as quietly as you can. | |||
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The loons have their answer from the highest court in the land: DENIED. | |||
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